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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i cant see how u think eubank was schooling watson.
Eubank won the first six rounds against Watson (first fight) with ease, absolutely easy. But then Eubank just lost all his strength (because he had had to lose 19lbs in four days) and Watson took the last six rounds due to Eubank's dehydration.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by WWatt
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i cant see how u think eubank was schooling watson.
Eubank won the first six rounds against Watson (first fight) with ease, absolutely easy. But then Eubank just lost all his strength (because he had had to lose 19lbs in four days) and Watson took the last six rounds due to Eubank's dehydration.
Had Eubank winning 5 of the first six from memory and gave it to Watson by 1 point
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Fenster
None of the guys mentioned would of done as good a job on Lacy as Calzaghe did.
You're joking right?
Herol Graham would have done a lot worse to Lacy A LOT WORSE!! And Eubank would have had a field day with him, and Benn would have hit Lacy with so many punches, Lacy on the night he fougth Calzaghe too? Benn would have put Lacy in a hospital.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by Fenster
None of the guys mentioned would of done as good a job on Lacy as Calzaghe did.
You're joking right?
Herol Graham would have done a lot worse to Lacy A LOT WORSE!! And Eubank would have had a field day with him, and Benn would have hit Lacy with so many punches, Lacy on the night he fougth Calzaghe too? Benn would have put Lacy in a hospital.
Ok so Benn may have got to him, but as for Herol Graham doing "MUCH WORSE" how could he do much worse than land over 1000 punches ???
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
only winning by one round ?? the british public went crazy because watson was robbed anyone can see that and secondly getting battered by another man is getting outboxed and yes it was a lucky punch because watson knocked him down and was totally dominating so yes it was lucky punch
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
and eubank didnt throw enough punches in first fight to be honest and no way he won first 6 rounds
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
only winning by one round ?? the british public went crazy because watson was robbed anyone can see that and secondly getting battered by another man is getting outboxed and yes it was a lucky punch because watson knocked him down and was totally dominating so yes it was lucky punch
The British public only went crazy because Mike McCallum (who bitterly detested Eubank) said at the halfway point that he had Watson (his friend) in front! Then Jim Watt, nuthugging McCallum, said in round seven "Let's just say it's even at this point" ::**
But Eubank thoroughly schooled Watson and won the first six rounds as easy as a cuppa tea.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
and eubank didnt throw enough punches in first fight to be honest and no way he won first 6 rounds
He won the first six rounds, crystal clear, he made Watson look average before dehydrating.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
im sorry i dont agree
Oh well, that's your problem.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by Fenster
None of the guys mentioned would of done as good a job on Lacy as Calzaghe did.
You're joking right?
Herol Graham would have done a lot worse to Lacy A LOT WORSE!! And Eubank would have had a field day with him, and Benn would have hit Lacy with so many punches, Lacy on the night he fougth Calzaghe too? Benn would have put Lacy in a hospital.
Ok so Benn may have got to him, but as for Herol Graham doing "MUCH WORSE" how could he do much worse than land over 1000 punches ???
He would do a lot worse then Calzaghe did, not just in physical beating but in mental beating, he would make Lacy look stupid and even worse form then Calzaghe did and I doubt Jeff would be talking about a comeback anytime soon.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
The fight was for a world title, Graham wouldnt have won ;)
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Memphis
The fight was for a world title, Graham wouldnt have won ;)
Lol, yeah Bomber goes 11 rounds, 2 minutes and 59 seconds without Lacy laying a glove on him.. then Boom. Lacy KO Graham.
I can see it now.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by Fenster
None of the guys mentioned would of done as good a job on Lacy as Calzaghe did.
You're joking right?
Herol Graham would have done a lot worse to Lacy A LOT WORSE!! And Eubank would have had a field day with him, and Benn would have hit Lacy with so many punches, Lacy on the night he fougth Calzaghe too? Benn would have put Lacy in a hospital.
You're right as it goes Starr - Benn, Eubank and Graham would of all been far more impressive destroying Lacy.... it goes without saying how bad Jones, Toney, Nunn, Hopkins et all would of made him look
How about Sven Ottke? :o Can you imagine the beating he would of gave Lacy?
Collins? Close? Dan Sherry? Nicky Piper? :o All would of embarrassed him.
In a way I guess Lacy exposed Calzaghe lack of ability?
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Fenster
In a way I guess Lacy exposed Calzaghe lack of ability?
I think Calzaghe exposed Lacy's lack of style and dimension.
Lacy may have ability, and he may have power and he may have speed, but if he doesn't have a gameplan and the right style and the ability to change when the going gets tough then he's just another Tua. Who will look spectacular if given the right opponents, but fighters with a gameplan to beat him which saddens me because I am a huge Lacy fan but Calzaghe took advantage of every flaw Lacy had and sadly he had a lot.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
Absolutely, one of which being a dreadfull corner.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
only winning by one round ?? the british public went crazy because watson was robbed anyone can see that and secondly getting battered by another man is getting outboxed and yes it was a lucky punch because watson knocked him down and was totally dominating so yes it was lucky punch
It was never a robbery, I had it by 1 round to Watson, Eubank definitely won atleast 5 of the first 6 imo. Watson would have won a clear UD in the rematch, had it not been for the tragedy - but fair play to Eubank, he did get the job done!
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Fenster
In a way I guess Lacy exposed Calzaghe lack of ability?
I think Calzaghe exposed Lacy's lack of style and dimension.
Lacy may have ability, and he may have power and he may have speed, but if he doesn't have a gameplan and the right style and the ability to change when the going gets tough then he's just another Tua. Who will look spectacular if given the right opponents, but fighters with a gameplan to beat him which saddens me because I am a huge Lacy fan but Calzaghe took advantage of every flaw Lacy had and sadly he had a lot.
Yeah mate hindsight is a wonderful thing ;)
It was obviously Lacy's flaws lack of ability and gameplan that cost him the fight that night Calzaghes brilliant performance had nothing to do with it ::**
Shame all the so called "experts" that predicted an easy Lacy win didn't point out all these glaringly obvious flaws before the fight, in it like?
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Fenster
In a way I guess Lacy exposed Calzaghe lack of ability?
I think Calzaghe exposed Lacy's lack of style and dimension.
Lacy may have ability, and he may have power and he may have speed, but if he doesn't have a gameplan and the right style and the ability to change when the going gets tough then he's just another Tua. Who will look spectacular if given the right opponents, but fighters with a gameplan to beat him which saddens me because I am a huge Lacy fan but Calzaghe took advantage of every flaw Lacy had and sadly he had a lot.
Yeah mate hindsight is a wonderful thing ;)
It was obviously Lacy's flaws lack of ability and gameplan that cost him the fight that night Calzaghes brilliant performance had nothing to do with it ::**
Shame all the so called "experts" that predicted an easy Lacy win didn't point out all these glaringly obvious flaws before the fight, in it like?
Funny that aint it ;)
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
only winning by one round ?? the british public went crazy because watson was robbed anyone can see that and secondly getting battered by another man is getting outboxed and yes it was a lucky punch because watson knocked him down and was totally dominating so yes it was lucky punch
Watson would have won a clear UD in the rematch, had it not been for the tragedy
Actually, mate, if Eubank won the last round it would of been an MD.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
Watson v Collins would of been interesting.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
watson won easy in first fight and in 2nd fight he was winning even more convincly until eubank got lucky punch
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
watson won easy in first fight
Blabla. Bullshit.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Shame all the so called "experts" that predicted an easy Lacy win didn't point out all these glaringly obvious flaws before the fight, in it like?
Same with Trinidad vs Wright and Hopkins Trinidad, but if you didn't see it in DLH vs. Trinidad, you didnt see it at all.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
umm no it isnt bullshit most people think he won the fight chris eubank hardly done anything in first fight
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
it wasnt the most active fight but watson done enough to easily win
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
Sorry dude, but your wrong.
Watch it with an open-mind, don't hate Eubank, and you'll see that Watson wasn't in his class.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
i dont hate eubank at all i think hes tough sob but i think watson won the first fight and was winning 2nd fight convincly thats just my opinion
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
thats silly to say he wasnt in hes class watson was just as good as euabnk plus he fought excellent against benn
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
Take the Benn fight away, and Watson was never in Eubank's class. Nobody even knew who he was before the Benn fight, he was average. Eubank was special.
That was too easy for Watson, against Benn. All he had to do was open his gloves and cup both sides of his forehead because Benn was just swinging away hopelessly non-stop, and with Watson dipping in with those long forearms and big elbows it meant every body shot was blocked too. Benn fought like a berk, hitting arms and gloves until he was burned out. He lost that fight more so than Watson won it.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
he outsmarted benn he fought very well u cant take that away from him and if he was so average and eubank was so special why did he give eubank such a hard time ?? and only reason no one knew him because public loved eubank and benn at that time dont u think its unfair he beat benn yet benn was more known to the public than watson.
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no one knew iran barkley when he fought tommy hearns and look what happened to hearns it doesnt mean just because u arent known more to the public that ur average.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
Watson didn't give Eubank a hard time, Eubank schooled him. In the second fight, there were rumours he was hypnotised and on drugs. Yes, he looked unbeatable in the second fight - but that's just one fight, and he lost anyway.
Not even his own camp gave him a chance against Benn!
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
read this Everyone knows the current plight of Michael Watson, but the heroics of his fightback from injury were matched by the courage he displayed in the ring.
Watson was the quiet man compared to the flamboyance of the men he fought alongside so memorably, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank.
He was the ultimate professional, a student of the game who knew his boxing history, analysed the styles of the greats and kept himself in peak physical condition.
No-one fancied his chances in the clash with Nigel Benn; the Dark Destroyer was supposed to blast Watson out of the ring.
But Watson surprised everyone with his peek-a-boo style, frustrated a flailing Benn for six rounds before taking out the exhausted Commonwealth champion.
He was again the underdog in the two Eubank fights. Watson's skill and work-rate saw him dominate the first encounter, before he was robbed by a criminal decision on the scorecards.
The second fight followed a similar pattern as he overwhelmed Eubank, dropping him in the 11th, only for the Brighton man to rise from the canvas with that fateful uppercut to Watson's jaw.
A clash between Joe Calzaghe and the Michael Watson who defeated Nigel Benn would be lapped up by the boxing connoisseur.
The two stylists would fight out an intriguing tactical battle, whilst never neglecting to get the hard work done on the inside.
Of all Calzaghe's opponents, perhaps Richie Woodhall is the nearest in style to Watson and an analysis of this fight could suggest the likely outcome of Calzaghe-Watson.
Woodhall competed for 10 high-class rounds against the Welshman, but over the course of the 30 minutes Calzaghe's heavier punching dragged the fight more and more his way until the challenger could take no more.
Watson was a class above Woodhall, but a similar pattern could be expected against Calzaghe. The Welshman takes it in the 10th.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
bbc are even saying he was robbed. eubank never schooled watson
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
how can u say eubank schooled watson u must be eubank fan to say that im sorry no way in hell eubank was ahead on points in first fight
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
bbc are even saying he was robbed. eubank never schooled watson
If you believe that author, you'll believe anyone.
It is BULLSHIT.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
how can u say eubank schooled watson u must be eubank fan to say that im sorry no way in hell eubank was ahead on points in first fight
Well, I guess I must be seeing things then.
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Re: what if calzaghe vs benn calzaghe vs eubank prime calzaghe vs collins
most people think he was robbed id love to see the punchstat of the fight