UPDATED! Wacko's Drunken Round by Round: Jones vs Ajamu & Harris Johnston

I can't believe it, oh well just another couple of mediocre heavyweights to add to the pile

mr. wacko that was beautiful what you wrote about RJJ summing up alot of sh*T. how long did it take u to write that? it was like poetry! MUUUUUUUAHZ :-*

oh yeah COOL CLICK bro

rrj by 5th round ko

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

I can't believe it, oh well just another couple of mediocre heavyweights to add to the pile

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I think pile doesn't quite describe how bloody big that pile is actually getting. I would say it's more of a mountain of mediocre men. Good news though, if the top four or five drop out, we'd have quite a competitive division, because they're all as bad as each other. OKay, I take back the good news part of that sentence. HW is bloody depressing at the moment, a dark age in top flight top weight boxing.

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

I can't believe it, oh well just another couple of mediocre heavyweights to add to the pile

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I think pile doesn't quite describe how bloody big that pile is actually getting. I would say it's more of a mountain of mediocre men. Good news though, if the top four or five drop out, we'd have quite a competitive division, because they're all as bad as each other. OKay, I take back the good news part of that sentence. HW is bloody depressing at the moment, a dark age in top flight top weight boxing.

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:coolclick: Agreed.

It is most def a mountain of mediocre men...but there are a few out there that can provide some exciting matches...I'm warming to Wlad more & more as each heavy match goes down.

I actually want to see Valuev vs Barrett & Wlad vs Briggs.

No Miles kiss of deah on this one because, even though I love Jones Jr this fight doesnt mean anything now....Win, lose or draw...its all the same for me now :-\

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Whew! Man damn what a week!

Listen, instead of me blowing wind over how glad I am that the weekend is finally here & let the drinkin begin & it's yet another WDRBR...let me just get right to the point: Roy Jones Jr.

When I think about Jones I often dwell on many things...the past, the present, and sadly...no future.

For years the middleweight & light heavyweight (more of the latter) landscape was dominated relentlessly by the one true king...Roy Jones Jr. Like him or not, he did rule & he was worthy of the crown that he wore. Many fans & writers scrutinized Jones for years for not fighting abroad and supposedly dodging the premere threats to his throne. I suppose it's all in how you look at it. Either way Jones has been one of the greatest fighters of our young years of boxing.

Roy Jones Jr. is such a tuff call....he has been for the past decade for most boxing fans...but now so more than ever.

His skills are...or were marvelous. His speed is...or was unmatchable. His power is...or was unbelieveable...just as amazing as Jones was...his fall was so shocking, so devastating, that the boxing world has chosen to write him off...even many of his fans have saddled up & rode off into the sunset in hopes that their hero will follow.

Not so.

Sadly, Roy now toils on the brink of obscurity. Everyone involved in boxing around the globe has come to the one conclussion that Roy can not...it's time to retire. His warrioresque image and mentality has left him...and so it seems, has his confidence, speed, power, reflexes, and drive. All that remains now is the shell & ego of the great RJ.

Whether or not your'e an old school boxing fan or a recent upstart...it's easy to compare Roy's current path to fighters of days gone by such as Ali, Duran, Foreman, & Louis...all of whom should have gotten out 3-5 fights prior to their last humiliating defeat at the hands of a lesser opponent.

The writing has been on the wall for some time now...but apparently Roy has become incapable of reading the bold print.

In the past Jones had always been noted as a smart fighter. He had marketed himself & promoted himself to almost legendary status. Not only a boxer...but a superb athelete...a role model. He was a fighter that would, by his own admission, get out while the getting out was good. What ever happened to that mentality...one will never know.

Oddly enough...Jones was even quoted as making statements in reference to a fellow fallen fighter (Gerald McClellan) and how his friend's life was ruined, cut short if you will, due to staying in the ring for one round too many. A single round can cost a lifetime for any fighter, but for an unconditioned or unmotivated one...it could become fatal. Again, what ever happened to that mentality...one will never know.

Jones has suffered three loses back to back in the last two and a half year, this is yet another globally known fact, and yet he continues to press onward for the sake of his own greatness.

The once magnificent king has gone from selling out HBO Mega PPV shows in Vegas to struggling to fill miniature casinoes and auditoriums from Florida, Memphis, & Oregon. Now he's getting less than half of his previous payday's & begging to be noticed in amaturely promoted events where ever he can find anyone enthusiastic enough to touch him with a ten foot pole.

Today...from the last numbers, "the regal one" will be lucky if he sells out the tiny Qwest Arena in Boise, Idaho.

Ironically, the vanquished King Roy will be fighting the Prince Badi Ajamu (25 wins with 14 ko's, 2 losses, & 1 draw) of Camden, New Jersey. Ajamu was once a sparring partner for the great and retired Bernard Hopkins and was the main sparring choice for Tarver.

Now being labled as a fitting opponent for the current incarnation of the once great Roy Jones jr., doesn't seem that far of a stretch for the media. For us in the know...or those of us that think we know... the common wave length of thought, is that the Prince is thought will turn out to be no great threat...but then again, mind you...neither was Gentleman Glen until he knocked Roy's mind, heart, & soul clean out of his physical frame back at the FedEx Forum in Memphis, TN in 2004.

As has been the case throughout his entire career...Roy has shocked & surprised his fans & his detractors...one way or the other. The question is...will he shock & surprise us this time by winning the fight like the old Roy or will we be shocked again as he resorts to yet another one of his hobbies...checking the lighting systems of boxing auditoriums around the world.

Being a RJJ fan...I'm hoping Roy wins...but I don't think that he will. Which finally brings me to...

The Wackster's Factors of the Fight!


Factors for & against Jones.

#1: The great Roy Jones Jr. It has been common place for RJJ fans to believe that Roy is/was so great that if only a fraction of RJ shows up...it's all over. That has been proven not to be the case.

#2: All or Nothing. I think that tag line of this fight is something about all or nothing. My problem is...what if the ALL that Roy has left is NOTHING? People have argued that he won the first Tarver fight & that he was doing great against Tarver in the second one...but come on...he got KTFO almost immediately. IWO, the telling tale is the 3rd fight with Tarver. Jones was not putting forth the effort...& if he was...Tarver stiffled whatever Jones brought. I Badji was Tarver & Hopkins spar boy...& he held his own...like I heard that he did...look for Roy to lose...again. But if Roy does win...then so what? Who is Badji & what has he done other than spar with some good fighters?

#3: Motivation. Could a win from Jones revitalize his career...or has the great RJ left the boxing world for good? If he does win...what then...Jones is past his age & his reflexes...well...we all saw how slow & ineffective he was against Johnson.

#4: Training & Debtdication. One has to wonder about Roy and his current training regiment. Sure...it was fine for Jones to play the role of a rapper, basketballer, rooster fighter, actor, & most recently fisherman (hey...a man's gotta have his hobbies)...now that this is the last ditch effort...wouldn't it be a bit wise to concentrate on being Roy Jones jr the magnificent world beater of old instead of exercising fun time as a rapper, basketballer, cock fighter, actor, & fisherman?

Come on Roy...as your fans...& fellow boxing enthusiasts...I think that we all deserve a little better...but...once again...wer'e still here...hoping above hope as fans. As the opposite...well...I can only imagine that your'e hoping to see Roy make his quotta counting bulbs once agian.


#5: The Legacy. I know what your'e saying...Roy's legacy is cemented in stone...but if that's the case...why is Jones fighting again...because of his E-G-O! Oscar was supposedly retired after getting knocked out...but then out he comes & destroys Mayorga. Hopkins lost to Taylor twice & out he comes & destroys Tarver. Jones aint gonna go out like a panooch...or so he is probably thinking. A win again Prince Badi Ajamu let's Jones go out a winner & also the NABO's Light Heavyweight champion. I know what your'e all thinking...but you gotta think like a fighter with a huge ego...no matter how weak that NABO title sounds it brings back the vaunted Jones credibility & in his eyes...probably revives his career.

Factors for & against Prince Badi Ajamu:

You know what...this might seem unfair...but I just don't see to many factors to discuss here...PBA will either have what it takes or he won't...but in all reality...we all know that it's basically just the opposite.

Jones will either have enough left in the tank...or he won't.

Whenever Ajamu has risen to the occassion against a so-so opponent...he's lost. Rico Hoye & Otis Grant both beat the kid to the punch...so technically...this is all on Jones.

Even if the kid comes out with a career defining performance...he will have done so against a fighter that has fallen by the wayside everytime that he has climbed through the ropes over the last two or three years.

The main factor in Ajamu's favor is the fact that he is three years younger than Roy & he's an inch or so taller than Roy. They have basically the same 74 inches of reach...but if Ajamu can use his age, speed, & stamina against Roy...he's finally found a factor.

No matter how much the media pumps the idea into our heads that he's been a great sparring partner for Tarver, Hopkins, & more...well...that pulls about as much weight as Jones pressing records, putting worms on a hook, or bouncing a basketball between a buncha Blue Ducks.

Honestly...I can't believe that I'm paying for this shat...so if you aren't...then the Drunken Round by Round is just the place for you to be this Saturday night July the 29th, 2006.

So...as always...I say to you again...my fellow forum goers...grab your remote & your poison of choice.

Pick a spot & settle in on the couch or in front of your monitors & let's get down to biz with yet another installment of Wacko's Drunken Round by Round!

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches. Wacko loves you all!

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Wacko, sometimes you piss me off man. You sure are one HELL of a loyal fan aren't ya? "I don't think Hopkins can beat Tarver"... "I don't think Jones can beat Ajamu". .Fuck That! I picked B-hop to win and though I have my fears and worries about Roy, I'm picking him to beat Ajamu too. Thing is this, Ajamu is the LH equivalent to Jameel Mccline. That can be good and bad. Good because Ajamu could box like his usual self and be lazy, hesitant and intimidated at times. Bad because just like Mccline did to Michael Grant, Ajamu can see this as his one big shot at stardom and bum rush Roy right from the opening bell a la Glen Johnson. Either way, I think Roy will be prepared. His skills have only eroded slightly, its his mentatlity that was been shot. I hope Jones will let his hands go in this fight and stop this guy, I don't think he'll look like his old self ever again, but through heart and determination I think he has got enough left to win this fight and exit his career with 50 wins. Go Jones!!!!! :action: :appl:

what times the rjj fight start?
cheers guys

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Originally Posted by gally

what times the rjj fight start?
cheers guys

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More importantly, I'm not really too au faix with geography over there in the big country, so where the freak is Boise. And Idaho for that matter? And secondly, was there cheap greyhound tickets there this week or summat, cause it ain't exactly boxing mecca if you know what I mean.

Oh yeah, and an answer to what gally said too. Toodlepip gentlemen, I shall be back after my bubble bath and beer.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Wacko, sometimes you piss me off man. You sure are one HELL of a loyal fan aren't ya? "I don't think Hopkins can beat Tarver"... "I don't think Jones can beat Ajamu". .F*** That! I picked B-hop to win and though I have my fears and worries about Roy, I'm picking him to beat Ajamu too.

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I always piss you off...but that's okay...HULK GET MAD!!! HULK SQUASH!!!!

Besides...I like Hulk when he's angry...he get's irrational.

Let's back up & remember that you picked Mayorga to destroy Oscar...& I did not. ;D

Look at it like this...if I pick one of my favs to have a hard night & they don't...it's a bonus for me...but if they do have a tuff night (like my recent call with Sturm Castijello) then I am not so shocked & disappointed...or in your case...crushed with Mayorga. ;D :-*

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Thing is this, Ajamu is the LH equivalent to Jameel Mccline. That can be good and bad. Good because Ajamu could box like his usual self and be lazy, hesitant and intimidated at times. Bad because just like Mccline did to Michael Grant, Ajamu can see this as his one big shot at stardom and bum rush Roy right from the opening bell a la Glen Johnson. Either way, I think Roy will be prepared. His skills have only eroded slightly, its his mentatlity that was been shot. I hope Jones will let his hands go in this fight and stop this guy, I don't think he'll look like his old self ever again, but through heart and determination I think he has got enough left to win this fight and exit his career with 50 wins. Go Jones!!!!! :action: :appl:

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Look...I want Jones to win...but if he does...it only proves that he can no longer cut the mustard against the upper eschelon of fighters & that's a fact.

I don't know enough about Badji...but I know an assload about Jones & just because I think that it's the end of his road & that he should stick to one trade instead of twenty...it doesn't make me any less a fan.

I mean...come on...the writing's on the wall.

Michael Jordan sucked ass at baseball & golf while his true trade was in basketball.

Roy's true trade was boxing...but he lost his focus & drive to his ego, basketball, fishing, & rapping.

Mayorga's true trade is in...errrrrrrrrrrrrrr...anyways...my point is that Jones needs to stick to fishing. ;D

im going to go with rjj by UD

jones by TKO/KO

RJJ is comeing back. RJJ by KO or wide UD

With the WBO NABO Light Heavyweight title on the line...here we go...the return...again...of the great Roy Jones Jr.

The prep work is underway & the lack of production value is painfully apparent.

3 or 4 valueless fights prior to the main event...

How long to go till the fight starts Wacko?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

How long to go till the fight starts Wacko?

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There are two...maybe three fights in front of the Jones fight...I'd say about an hour or hour & a half.

Oh damn, I really should go bed, but you all know I wont. I'll stay up with you guys :kissing:

let's get it on!!!

i have to stay on the straight and narrow for work, so can someone please drink a shot or two or three for me; if you don't mind, make it tequila or vodka or a good bourbon; beer chasers always do me right too. how about you wackster; can you help me out?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Oh damn, I really should go bed, but you all know I wont. I'll stay up with you guys :kissing:

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Goody gumdrops.

Wacko's in it for the duration, babe.

I'd love for this to turn out on the up & up for Roy...but I aint gettin me hopes up.

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Originally Posted by sweet science

let's get it on!!!

i have to stay on the straight and narrow for work, so can someone please drink a shot or two or three for me; if you don't mind, make it tequila or vodka or a good bourbon; beer chasers always do me right too. how about you wackster; can you help me out?

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Babe...I been drinkin since about 7:05...trust me...I gotcha covered. ;D

mr. wacko u do what u do best babes! im off to the hill billy bar to watch this ish live for free!!!! can u believe its been 7months since i tasted alcohol???? hahaha only 5months more to go to make it a full year!!!!!

Pacquiao vs Morales III ringside seats here we go!!!!!!!

Wow...the joint is really really empty.

Lot's of folks aimlessly walking around the...arena...or whatever.

I know it's early...but you'd think more people would be there for RJJ.

Jones will get Knocked out again!

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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P

mr. wacko u do what u do best babes! im off to the hill billy bar to watch this ish live for free!!!! can u believe its been 7months since i tasted alcohol???? hahaha only 5months more to go to make it a full year!!!!!

Pacquiao vs Morales III ringside seats here we go!!!!!!!

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Enjoy yourself big dawg.

Be careful around those hill billies...make sure you don't head for the hills...ever seen Deliverance?

Sqweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel like a pig!!! :-X :puke:

Have the warmup fights started yet?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Have the warmup fights started yet?

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Yep.

The first one is on the verge of being stopped.

Kenny Keene vs Arthur Williams.

Williams just won by stoppage.

10th round TKO by Arthur Williams.

Keene's last fight & he got TKO'd.

Cruisers...ugly fight.

I'm here with you guys, let me start by giving Wacko the CC as always. I know this is not that easy and not free $$ al the PPV. But I will be reading and will wait for the RJJ fight

Yeah :coolclick: to Wacko for his efforts.

But please, just for me don't use the word clench during this rbr.

It invokes disturbing scatalogical images for me :puke:

LOL

;D

By the way what time is the Vivian Harris Stevie Johnson fight?

Hillarious.

Virgil Hill is commentating & Williams came over talking shat to Virgil saying he wanted a piece of him.

Whatta dum bitch! That guy looked like shat ona shingle. Please. ::**

Man I wish that I had a second set of hands...I'd love some terriyaki wings to go with my Long Island Iced Tea, right now. ;D

So far...none of these fighters have look thrilled to be here as they enter the ring.

I wonder if it's the fact that the promotion might not be able to pay the bills at the end of the night.

Well I'm here with my friend Chivas Regal 12 years on the rock. this is great but for now no food it damages the flavor in my mouth. cheers :alcoholic: :alcoholic: :alcoholic: :alcoholic: :alcoholic: :alcoholic: :beerchug: :biker: :dance1:

Guessing these fights are so bad they arn't even worth commentary eh Wacko?

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Yeah :coolclick: to Wacko for his efforts.

But please, just for me don't use the word clench during this rbr.

It invokes disturbing scatalogical images for me :puke:

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So...I suppose you'd prefer I use the word "HUG"? :bananasex:

Heh heh heh.

:coolclick: s to everyone after the card's over.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Yeah :coolclick: to Wacko for his efforts.

But please, just for me don't use the word clench during this rbr.

It invokes disturbing scatalogical images for me :puke:

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So...I suppose you'd prefer I use the word "HUG"? :bananasex:

Heh heh heh.

:coolclick: s to everyone after the card's over.

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Nah clinch is fine, the correct word, BUT NEVER CLENCH!!!!!!!!!! :wc:

Wow.

We almost had ourselves another TKO.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Wow.

We almost had ourselves another TKO.

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Yeah thanks for the commentary on that one Wacko. Is this the new rbr where we all gather here and you use your psychic powers to let us know whats going on?

I'm not a freakin mind reader!!!!!

The fight just got stopped & it was pretty questionable IWO.

Guthrie wins it. Guthrie was just all over him & Weeks stopped it due to the fact that Munson wasn't blocking the punches that Guthrie was throwing.

Oh well.