Warren: - Do you want Calzaghe, Roy?

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Originally Posted by jtrock

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Benn hammered him
Simple really
We don't let our fighters "Tickle" over here girls
We let em fight like men. 8)

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Sorry Jack not buying it!!!!! Not even a little bit ::** Unsportsmanlike Conduct and Questionable Officiating is nothing to be proud of on any level..The most Blantant example of that was when Benn got up and was doing all he could to stand up The Ref kept holding McClellan back to were even the announcers were pissed it was pointless and absurd and obvious the Higher ups were not gonna let Benn lose that nite.

Benn hammered him Huh???? Yea with the help of a criminal Ref that unwisely let him fight past what he was capable and ended his competitive career at 32 no favors there

The fact that you are not disputing the events that happened that night brings more valitidy to my points

If you like to applaud and venerate BULLSHITE, Tell you what give me your address I'll U.P.S a box of it to you and you can clap :appl: to your hearts content

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Mate you'll probably find most people agree the French ref didn't do the best job but do you really believe the outcome would of been any different? All the other stuff is just conspiracy shit that gathers momentum then gets blown out of proportion mainly by those it seems that haven't even seen the fight. Benn won fair and square. Sadly the fight had tragic consequences. The end.

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Originally Posted by Smashup

It's no secret he ducked Benn and Collins
FACT ;D

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And it's no secret that Benn was scared to death of James Toney ;) AND Michael Nunn :)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by jtrock

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Benn hammered him
Simple really
We don't let our fighters "Tickle" over here girls
We let em fight like men. 8)

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Sorry Jack not buying it!!!!! Not even a little bit ::** Unsportsmanlike Conduct and Questionable Officiating is nothing to be proud of on any level..The most Blantant example of that was when Benn got up and was doing all he could to stand up The Ref kept holding McClellan back to were even the announcers were pissed it was pointless and absurd and obvious the Higher ups were not gonna let Benn lose that nite.

Benn hammered him Huh???? Yea with the help of a criminal Ref that unwisely let him fight past what he was capable and ended his competitive career at 32 no favors there

The fact that you are not disputing the events that happened that night brings more valitidy to my points

If you like to applaud and venerate BULLSHITE, Tell you what give me your address I'll U.P.S a box of it to you and you can clap :appl: to your hearts content

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Mate you'll probably find most people agree the French ref didn't do the best job but do you really believe the outcome would of been any different? All the other stuff is just conspiracy S*** that gathers momentum then gets blown out of proportion mainly by those it seems that haven't even seen the fight. Benn won fair and square. Sadly the fight had tragic consequences. The end.

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Yes I do Fenster!!!! I saw the fight years ago and have requested it recently and saw the same things I did years ago I'm Not trying to split hairs with you but Benn Was Out on his feet sitting on the middle rope with his hands down getting pounded by McClellan not being able to intelligently defend himself...Last time I checked thats a tell tale sign for a TKO...Yea it had tragic consuquences for both fighters especially Gerald...Benn was repeadly Rabbit punching in the back of the head in the clinches...The 1st knocked down of Gerald was also a clubbing shot to the back of the head...That was no conspiracy... Its all on film nothing fabricated there

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Originally Posted by raleights

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Originally Posted by ~Phil~

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Originally Posted by rsan-chez

:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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Why should they have to leave lol? Any fighter who's got half a brain knows all the money and exposure is in the US, and they're already here. Doesn't make sense, especially for Roy after that whole mess in the olympics.

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yeah but to be a true world champion u should fight guys away from your home imo,
yeah u can stay in the States/Britian and beat everyone that comes and make your money
but real champions look 4 a bigger challenge and beat guys in there home towns around the world.
thats why RJJ/Hopkins/JC ect will never get the worldwide fame they deserve,
look at Ali he's the best known boxer around the world, why? because he fought around
the world! just a shame alot of todays boxers won't

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Originally Posted by bigragu

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Originally Posted by jtrock

I am probably the most UNNATIONALISTIC person on this Forum and despise it period!!!!! I hate to hear people say OUR BOYS, YOUR BOYS if you are a true Fan of the Sport their EVRYONES BOYS so to say, appreciate what all countries produce in the way of athletes, thats the main reason I cant stant that tool Royal!!!! Cause he is so one way and predjudice....

If McClellan vs Benn happened in the U.S and the roles were reversed YOU BET YOUR a** I WOULD BE JUST AS PISSED AT THE NONSENSE AND OFFICIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats wrong is wrong....

So I am not trying to attack or provoke anyone here and I'm not saying it is wrong to take pride in your country and heritage but dont be so overzealous as to let it skew your perception of reality and reasoning ability... :soapbox: ok I'm done

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yeah!!!!!! and for the record Joe C is one of my favorite fighters...I love all my Italian fighters!!!!! the Italian Dragon Rules IMO!!!!

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Joe Calzaghe is infact born and bred in Hammersmith in West London!!
Don't believe me?
Check the Podcast section (Just click on the ipod icon on the top right of the homepage screen) ;D
What an interview ;)

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Originally Posted by ~Phil~

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Originally Posted by raleights

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Originally Posted by ~Phil~

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Originally Posted by rsan-chez

:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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so you think RJJ and Hopkins didn't have the balls to leave the States?

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Why should they have to leave lol? Any fighter who's got half a brain knows all the money and exposure is in the US, and they're already here. Doesn't make sense, especially for Roy after that whole mess in the olympics.

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yeah but to be a true world champion u should fight guys away from your home imo,
yeah u can stay in the States/Britian and beat everyone that comes and make your money
but real champions look 4 a bigger challenge and beat guys in there home towns around the world.
thats why RJJ/Hopkins/JC ect will never get the worldwide fame they deserve,
look at Ali he's the best known boxer around the world, why? because he fought around
the world! just a shame alot of todays boxers won't

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One problem, all those fighters you just mentioned IMO are better than Ali so what you're throwing at me is that he's more famous cause he fought here and there, which the fame is hard to argue. But more famous because he fought all around the world, or because the mulsim religion was a perfect gimic for him :)

Not saying he was a complete fraud or anything like that, but still he didn't want to fight in the war, religion was a good way to get out of that and at the same time make him beloved by everyone. Great fighter, but people need to get off his dick :thumb:

We seem to be going "Off the track" here,somewhat!
;D

Calzaghe retires Jones all day long

Hope it does help.
























F*ck me some of you need it ;)

Unfortunately in the present time, Smashup is right :(

Wish Bhop would of had some gonads and fought Calzaghe

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Originally Posted by rsan-chez

:dontknow: but does calzaghe have the balls to fight in the U.S. and not against a guy who is pretty much at the end of his career and a guy who's retired......:dontknow:

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getting soo tired of these remarks,

FOr the millionth time, calzaghe was set to fight hopkins in the usa untill hopkins pulled out after doubling his demands that he would never get...

btw calaghe has fought in oou of wales in his pro career, has RJJ or hopkins?

RJJ and Hopkins never needed to, America is a giant compared to all other countries when it comes to the sport of boxing ;D

and if Calzaghe was from here, he wouldn't of had to leave either (especially with that style, he'd of been a rich mother fucker)

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Originally Posted by Smashup

NO
there is plenty of Video footage showing the state of his hand after the Ashira fight ;)
Jones has Ducked most of our boys over the years
It all goes back to Benn Wheelchairing Mclellan mate ;)
Calzaghe (if they fought) would Ahhnialate him with ease.

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;D I've never seen Calzaghe ahnnilate any world class guy with ease. He just don't hit that hard. And Jones woulda slaughtered any of "your boys" back in the day. Eubanks, Benn, Collins, give me a break. James Toney was a better fighter than any of them and Roy won every single round against him. Now, a Calzaghe fight could be competitive and very exciting. I think Roy can still win it, though I would like to see him have another tune up fight first. And I know I didn't hear your dumb asses sayin Bernard Hopkins was scared of Joe fukin Calzaghe! ;D ;D ::**

I like roy J, I like Bhop and I like Calzaghe. They are all great fighters and even though some are past their primes still better than 99% of the rest. I think roy jones could win a calzaghe fight. Not saying he would blow him out or anything. Just saying I think there is enough in the tank to pull it out.

But lets talk reality here. I doubt it happens. Jones wants johnson.
Calzaghe wants someone that he thinks has flaws, Allan Green.
My money on Green that he destroys Calzaghe. I called Green to beat Jaidon when everyone was saying Jaidon would kill Allan. At the time I said Allan could be lacy or Calzaghe. Everyone on the forum thought I was an idiot. The speed, the power the pure athleticism will weigh in too much even for the masterful use of the ring and great experience that Joe has. Allan has knock out power in both hands, the likes the division hasn't seen in many years. You all can say whatever you want but if the Joe C and Green fight does materialize I want my day in the sun to say I told you so when he beats JC

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Originally Posted by thecolonel

I like roy J, I like Bhop and I like Calzaghe. They are all great fighters and even though some are past their primes still better than 99% of the rest. I think roy jones could win a calzaghe fight. Not saying he would blow him out or anything. Just saying I think there is enough in the tank to pull it out.

But lets talk reality here. I doubt it happens. Jones wants johnson.
Calzaghe wants someone that he thinks has flaws, Allan Green.
My money on Green that he destroys Calzaghe. I called Green to beat Jaidon when everyone was saying Jaidon would kill Allan. At the time I said Allan could be lacy or Calzaghe. Everyone on the forum thought I was an idiot. The speed, the power the pure athleticism will weigh in too much even for the masterful use of the ring and great experience that Joe has. Allan has knock out power in both hands, the likes the division hasn't seen in many years. You all can say whatever you want but if the Joe C and Green fight does materialize I want my day in the sun to say I told you so when he beats JC

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you have two posts when did you say that............. :D

What happened to the other guys post and then my last two where I told you where I posted that stuff at.


Hmm thats odd

Look at it like this...Calzaghe & Jones are speedsters...maybe I'd give an edge to Joe now...but not in the past.

Thing is...both men looked like greased lightening against their last opponents.

FACT.

Also...back in the day...Jones woulda beaten Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, & whoever else got tossed his way...& not just Brits either.

Jones was a marvel...but currently, he's just a shell of his former self IWO.

I'd have to give the edge to Joe on this time frame.

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Originally Posted by thecolonel

What happened to the other guys post and then my last two where I told you where I posted that stuff at.


Hmm thats odd

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New Server in place so we lost a few hours of posts...Its like Ground Hog Day were we have to start today over..LOL

Im gonna take Jones on this one, Common sense would have me pick Calzaghe but i just have a feeling we can see one more flash of the Old Roy Jones before he retires.