Were you awake or asleep. I am often awakened from sleep by someone calling my name only to discover I am home alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris N.
Easily dismissed a dream related, but still creepy.
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Were you awake or asleep. I am often awakened from sleep by someone calling my name only to discover I am home alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris N.
Easily dismissed a dream related, but still creepy.
My wife told me a farted once and I woke myself up, I guess that was scary for her..LOL
Its probably bad plumbing half the time timbers drying out, I know some crap Biulders. Theres more sightings of the loch Ness monster after closing time Ive been told, and the Whiskey up there is good. UFOs Im a beleiver, in 74 something went down in the Lake District Pavey Arc we were camped below. The cows were running into walls and all the sheep came of the mountain strange . Next morning the military were all over the place as we walked up the hill we were stopped by armed soldiers and told we couldnt go up because an Perigan Falcon was nesting there. We thought strange it wasnt yesterday.
That's an interesting story but why would you think that it meant that aliens from another universe were involved? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Surely it's a million times more plausible to believe that whatever crashed was earth made than from another civilisation beyond our galaxy. Possibly some kind of rec plane or prope, a weather balloon, a missile, anything has to be more believable than it was aliens.
I didnt see it come down sorry, but 3 of my mates did and the farmer said it wasnt of this world. I think it was the first time Langdale had seen 6 hellicopters flying up and down strange.
lol no offense but I wouldn't trust a farmer to know what was of this world and what wasn't. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
I was wide awake, it sounded like it came from upstairs. It could have easily been someone that said 'Chris' who was just walking by outside. Even though that's more likely it still makes shake my head and wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
When I took a drama class back in highschool I made an improv skit which was parody on the the TAPS Ghost Hunters. Mine was called SPAT 8) and as you can imagine by watching the show there was so to play off of. The worst one was a UK based investigative team, the program had the word Haunting on it and I saw it once or twice on the Travel Channel. Anysways this team had no equipment besides infared and night vision, but had to have a 'Psychic' that looks more like the corky melodramaic reject from a theatre group. WORST garbage ever...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
yeah the UK one with Evette Fielding sucked balls. My favourite part of that show was when the pyschics would walk into a house and go 'I sense somebody sitting here', 'Please tell me your name', 'What your name is Alan?' And how long have you been here Alan, did you used to live here?,' Yes!, how long ago?......'Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris N.
And meanwhile a disclaimer scrolls along the bottom of the screen 'Nobody called Alan has ever been reported living at this address'. ::**
It's funny though becase that show the scariest place they went to was a place called Berry Pomery Castle and Evette Fielding fainted in terror there and the psychics went mad saying it was an evil place and they didn't feel safe there.'
Anyway I live about 5 miles aways from this castle and as a kid and into my early twenties I must have been there over a dozen times with girlfriends and groups of friends.
Never saw a fucking thing and even shagged one of my girlfriends within the castle itself one night.
All bollocks, there's fuck all down there and these psychic loonies should not be given any airtime whatsoever. The worst show ever was when they sent some physics to drive down the French tunnel where Diana was killed and they sat in the back of the car reliving Diana's final moments >:mad
They shouldn't be allowed on telly, just misleading crazies who prey on the weak and the gullible.
you know the blonde psycotic (hehe) bloke who used to be on there
he got sacked
for bull shitting
he's an even bigger twat wen he gets apparently posessed by the ghost hmmmmmmmmmm
They should just lock them up rather than give them a tv slot. They are a menace. Someone who claims to talk to dead people is not someone who should be given a public voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by katfight
Bilbo I think it was his way of working out that on a hot summers night in the middle of June, the reason for the cows stampeding into stone walls and the sheep coming of the fells, strange
I guess they did it through fear. But from a cow's point of view a crashed weather ballon or plane would be just as scary as a crashed ufo surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
It's not like a cow is going to look up in the air and moo to it's neighbour not to worry becuase it's just a recon plane going down, and then look more closely recognises it as an alien craft and shouts out to all the other cows that it's a UFO and that they had better run like crazy ???
It's always stumped me in the past when people use animal behaviour to indicate a ghostly presence, if for an example a dog freaks out.
I always think to myself 'hang on a minute, animals don't have souls so how the hell can they discern spirits better than we can' ???
It's all hogwash imo.
I guess they did it through fear. But from a cow's point of view a crashed weather ballon or plane would be just as scary as a crashed ufo surely. Bilbo
I cannot decide if I agree or disagree. I keep thinking that a cow is an animal and animals can sense danger. I'm not sure if they would run into walls to escape a weather ballon.
Still, my dog wakes me up in the middle of the night barking at something things that he hadn't noticed before. Like my coat haning over the kitchen chair or a sofa pillow laying in the floor.
What worried me was the soldiers having guns in the National park on a wednesday, Market Day strange
Aww come on scrap what is it with these single sentence replies? You got us intrigued now write us a detailed blow by blow of what happened...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
They have a fight or flight response to anything that might appear dangerous to them they certainly can't tell the difference between different types of flying craft they just have a programmed response to react to certain stimuli.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I used to live in the countryside and driving down country lanes you'd often have roads blocked by cattle. For some reason cows don't see cars with headlights as dangerous and you can hurtle right up to them, honk your horn and rev your engine and they'll just look at you and carry on standing right where they are.
As soon as you get out of your car however the whole herd will take off within about 5 seconds.
That's just the way animals are (cows at least) they are completely dumb and for some reason see some situations as dangerous and other's as not even though what they feel to be non dangerous might actually be far more so.
It's instinct nothing more. As for dogs being able to sense ghosts, makes no sense to me whatsoever. Surely as only man is supposed to have a spirit why would a dog be able to sense spirits better than us? If they really could then I guess it would be dogs that actually went to heaven, worried about the afterlife and prayed to a higher power. Instead they just sniff each other's bums and lick their balls..........
I woke up once and looked out my window and saw this bright light in the sky. I figured it was a planet because i heard they are visible for alittle bit during the early morning for a month or so. Well i looked at it and the next thing i know it starts moving to the left gradually picking up speed and then it just disappeared. Needless to say, i went back to sleep but i'm pretty sure i saw what i just described.
I used to hangout at a funeral home which was operated by somebody i know's mom. When you walked through the downstairs, which was the funeral home part (they lived upstairs), you could just feel that there was a bunch of people around you but there'd never be anyone around. Then of course there was the odd noises here and there, but we never saw anything.
I believe in both to a certain degree. There has to be more "intelligent" life out there than 6 billion evolved cavemen. Statistically it's impossible that we are the only inteligent lifeforms in the universe. I've learned/heard some crazy stuff about ghosts in the past couple of months.
As for dogs being able to sense ghosts, makes no sense to me whatsoever. Surely as only man is supposed to have a spirit why would a dog be able to sense spirits better than us? If they really could then I guess it would be dogs that actually went to heaven, worried about the afterlife and prayed to a higher power. Instead they just sniff each other's bums and lick their balls..........
I didn't say that my dog could sense ghosts. Although I would pleased if he could. I was saying that he panics over the slightest change in his enviroment. A habit he may have picked up from me, of course.
Dogs can hear things humans can't--fact. Dogs see in black and white, so they say. Not sure how they test such things.
I guess I'm implying that there is a chance they can see and hear things we fail to detect.
Dogs might not be as "intelligent" as humans but they do have consciousness. They have higher senses so it wouldn't be that wierd if they sensed something that a lot of people can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Yes absolutely I can accept that argument but I still don't see why a dog or indeed any animal sensing something that we cannot means that what it is sensing is supernatural in origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I do believe totally in the words of Shakespeare however when he wrote 'There are more in things in heaven and earth Horatio than are dreamt of in your philosophy'..
I can absolutely entertain the possibility of supernatural beings, as I can accept the possibility of life beyond our galaxy or even outside of the universe, I just don't think that the likes of Taps on the Discovery channel or psychic ghosthunters are a reliable way to document such phenomena, in fact I think they are an embarrassment to real science.
I just don't think that the likes of Taps on the Discovery channel or psychic ghosthunters are a reliable way to document such phenomena
Bilbo
T.A.P.S. LOL
I do admire them for their courage even if they are full of "it." I couldn't stump around those creepy locations with the lights off even if I were keen to the paranormal.
Most Haunted makes me ill as well. Still, I watch because it's the best ghost stuff that television has to offer these days.
Courage are you serious? They just go to normal locations with a massive entourage and switch the lights out. They all jump at the slightest thing and act in the most unprofessional ways imaginable. If they ever actually saw anything they would be out the door so fast they themselves would look like a ghostly blur on camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
As I said in an earlier post I've visited Berry Pomeroy castle supposedly the most haunted location in England a dozen times or more, even shagging an ex girlfriend one night on the battlement rampart where the white lady is supposed to walk. F*** all happened and there is really nothing down there at all. Yet on the UK ghost hunters doc the pyschics went nuts saying they had to leave becuase they felt such an evil presence and the presenter of the show actually fainted :-\
Guess the ghosts were on holiday every time I've been down there. ::**
Incedently despite the fear and terror the wackos on the documentary had I don't think they actually saw or ducmented anything, a classic case of them being scared by their own minds.
Courage are you serious? They just go to normal locations with a massive entourage and switch the lights out Bilbo
I'm not a brave man. :bawling:
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Dude answer me this...why were the ghosts gonna scare you when they had free porn when they were watching you screw your ex ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
As a kid I had to share a room with my little sister. I have always been the spider catcher etc so I was used to her waking me up in hysterics to get them.
I woke up to hear her crying one night, saw her wearing a big puffy dress like something from a few hundred years ago, standing in the middle of the room. I was sleepy asked her what she wanted, turned on the light and she wasn't there.
She was asleep. I don't know what I saw but it wasn't scary. I never saw it again and slept in that room for years.
It's called a dream. I once got thrown out of bed, (I was asleep) and shitting myself I ran into my kitchen and rang my brother cos I was scared. Anyway whilst I was on the phone to him I went back into my bedroom and my bed was vertical, as if someone was lifting one end above their head. I screamed and ran back into the kitchen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharla
My brother said I must be dreaming and so I went back into the room and it was normal again. I went to sleep and had to ring my brother the next day to make sure I didn't dream the whole thing. He confirmed I did indeed ring him in the night.
In the same flat the sliding hatch to the loft somehow slid open around 4 times the 3 years I was there.
No idea how it happened but I don't for a minute think it was ghosts, just like I don't for a second think my bed really lifted up or that something threw me out of bed.
In regards to the bed instance I put it down to a bad dream and being only half awake whilst on the phone to my brother.
The loft I don't know how it could open but I'm guessing it must somehow have been the wind ???
My point is I had two experiences that some people if they would have had them would swear they were supernatural.
I think we all witness strange stuff but some people see different explanations. I really doubt that anybody on this board has truly had a real ghost or ufo experience.
You could be right. I don't assume it's a ghost or anything just something that doesn't usually happen to me that was weird. I won't try to say I KNOW something like that for a fact -Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
For the same reason though I don't know why you are so sure of this:
Do you really believe that? I was brought up on a farm and have had many pets. As a child I had a horse which was 15 years older than me and you could tell because of the way she was extra careful not to hurt me while she wiped my older bros off on tree branches.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Dogs will often protect their owners out of what I think is affection. So why would these creatures which are often fairly intelligent and emotional not have souls. Where's the evidence for something like that in anything we see in everyday life?
I do think some people don't have souls. Sick child killers etc. People incapable of feeling guilt or compassion who get a thrill out of doing things which are incomprehensible to most people. I guess it depends on what you call a 'soul'.
I know what you are saying. I guess I just subscribe to the biblical belief that God made man in His own image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharla
Dogs dont have souls... :o hey bullshit, if theres a heaven and i go to it and i dont find my pets there then me and god are having words! See this is why we have religion, humans must believe that we are the most important species in the world and the universe. I find it hard to believe out of the whole universe, we are the only intelligent life forms around. Cmon we dont even know how many planets there are in the universe, we never will. If a star can provide as a sun for one planet like our own, then why not another. There are plenty of stars out there and who can prove that in some solar system out there, that its not providing favourable conditions for another life form. Cavemen claimed to of seen flying objects and drew them on walls, ancient sumarians (one of the most advanced ancient tribes) claimed to of seen flying objects. Hey even ive had some pretty freaky experiences. Like one night when i was COMPLETELY AWAKE, lying in bed i heard a weird noise which gradually got louder. All of a sudden my room was lit up, i had my blinds closed so shit all light should of been in my room but it was like day time. I looked out the window and could only see blinding light and weird sound...like something was hovering over my house. Naturally i freaked out, jumped out of bed, ran into the lounge room and waited for the sound to stop. Aint no reptile anal probing me....or any other species ;D
Research into past life regressions and even future life progressions suggest it is a lot more complicated than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
I heard some info on coast to coast am last night that was pretty interesting regarding ufo's area 51 and all that. They talked about how an antigravity device (cloned with permission from aliens ::**) was perfected in 1958 and that 90% of ufo sightings today are actually our government testing them. Apparently a friend of the guy that was one told him some things they found out about gravity and ufo's.
Supposedly they run on element 115 (which in itself is barely credible due to the fact that all the heavier radioactive elements have very short half-lifes but then again he may have been refering to an isotope we haven't been able to isolate yet), there's two types of gravity (one at an atomic level and another one that works on a larger scale) and when a caller said something about religion and god, one of the additional guests asked the main one why didn't he give him a hard time. Later adding "Humans aren't as on top of the food chain as they'd like to believe".
There's been evidence to suggest that aliens landed here back when we were cavemen and kind of showed us how to become civilized (cave drawings dipict flying saucers). Apparently from a universal perspective, we are the dumbest of intelligent life out there. It could be speculated they we really weren't intended to advance passed the tribal level (indians and those still in tribes of isolated islands across the globe).
It's an interesting radio show. Some of the shows are a bit off but overall its pretty good. It's called coast to coast am and its on at 10pm-2am pacific time (maybe the times are off but thats the proximity of it).
Of course i give them some free advertizing and they repay me by having a show with hippies lobbying to make hallucenigenics legal. ::**
Another reason there might be something to that pet's detecting ghosts thing: There have been a lot of "ghost noises" recorded that have been below human audible range. Animals have better hearing than humans so its very possible.
I don't think we really wanna know exactly how much life is out there besides us because it's probably very depressing. Comparing the scale of a person to this planet, this planet to the galaxy its in, the galaxy its in to the whole universe, thorw in the fact that some estimates have a 10 percent success rate of "liveable" planets out there and that theres several planets around every star and you really start to see things add up.
'His own image' has to be mutidimentional when you feel out the truth surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Instead of reading what the evil Emperor of the Universal Roman Church shaped into the New testement into to suit themselves and their world domination.
The burned and killed anyone who wouldnt operate under their own Catholic guidlines for hundreds of years you know!
They rewrote and hid so much of the true way and they still do.
Animals have primarily a unity consiousness ,we have individualized consiussness by choice and have to eventually become accountable through that choice. Some ancient tribes still have unity consiousness,this isnt to say that they are soul less!!!
The difference between the two things are vast.The imature spiritual churches and their leaders dont even know where their own soul resides in their own bodies let alone how to form control over their consiusness or its levels through it!
Some animals can fall into the higher vibrationary love experience with owners and then share your levels with you or other dogs /people in those moments.
Some people can only see out of one eye,some out of two ,others out of their third eyes.
Some only out of their brown eye and their words follow suit.
Then there is a mixture of all the above with all the false and true claims in between usually to make money from or to the reverse extreme ;to protect a false sense of security in only the physical realm.
At the end of the day everything outside and inside of us is energy vibrating at different rates. light speed is NOT constant depending on where you stand and there are senses available to us that allow us to feel ,see and hear such energies if you wish to exersise towards them.
I like it cc
Hmm somebody has been reading the Celestine Prophecy I see. To be honest I hate New Age thinking with a passion. I don't know why the Catholic Church came into this, the contents of the bible is affirmed by the Jewish Torah and even the Quran in it's most signficant parts, the Catholic Church certainly don't have a monopoly on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
The idea of animals having a higher vibrationary love experience as you put it is one of the reasons I hate this New Age stuff so much as it de-emphisises the significance of mankind within creation and reduces us to the status of highly evolved animal.
Ultimately any belief system is a matter of faith and I cannot convince why my own viewpoint is better than yours but this New Age white shaminism explains absolutely nothing and just introduces loads of pseudobabble and hocus terms to appease the 20 th century mindset and obsession with psychology and hippie spirituality.
It is entirely a temporal belief system, mostly concocted by stealing ideas from native Ameircan indians and other tribal societies whilst completely ignoring or misinterperating other aspects of tribal belief so that most tribal societes consider this new age thinking to be a blasphamous perversion of their own belief systems.
I think more than any other belief systems new age is very much a product of its times, beginning with the drug culture of the sixties and guys like Timothy Leary and now advocated with an attempt at scientific credibility under the likes of Deepak Chopra. I actually believe this is one kind of religion that will die out in our own lifetimes.
I'm not a religious person - I don't doubt there is some kind of higher power but I don't believe it's something any human interpretation could ever summarize. Why would we ever be able to understand in it's entirity how and why life came to exist and why do we need to? Is it not enough to just make the most of your life and to try to be someone who is morally responsible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
So without disrespecting anyone's religious beliefs (because I won't argue for or against it) is it so bad that we might only have the same status as a highly evolved animal? Why do we need to feel superior to other living things?
Even if you do believe we are created in god's image part of the recognized definition of 'being only human' is that we are far from perfect. If we know our limitations as a race would we really need to feel ashamed of NOT being spiritually better than animals? I just don't see the shame in that myself.
I think probably a heard of cattle would believe they are spiritually more connected and aware than humans because they can only look at life through a cow's eyes and can not see first hand what life is through our eyes. Are we a little silly thinking we can sum up what sort of spiritual experience any animal has in life.
Now theres a balanced point of view from one who is obviusly not one eyed.cc 4 uQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharla