INteresting investigation 9/11

lol ! you got that right !

hahaha someone gave a Sad Click :rofmaoal:
that's my Fav smilie

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Same way we will never really know who shot JFK.

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THere is more evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK then there was against O.J. All it took were a few crazy people to INVENT conspriacy theorys, and keep saying them over and over again, and now a majarity of people think JFK was a conpiracy.

That is what is going to happen to 9-11, the crazy people will keep yelling there stories, until a sizable portion of the population, has no idea what really happend.


O yeah, and the towers were built to fall that way(to avoid a domino effect). Here is a link that will answer all of your enginering questions.

How the towers fell:
http://911myths.com/html/wtc__demolition_.html

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Same way we will never really know who shot JFK.

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THere is more evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK then there was against O.J. All it took were a few crazy people to INVENT conspriacy theorys, and keep saying them over and over again, and now a majarity of people think JFK was a conpiracy.

That is what is going to happen to 9-11, the crazy people will keep yelling there stories, until a sizable portion of the population, has no idea what really happend.


O yeah, and the towers were built to fall that way(to avoid a domino effect). Here is a link that will answer all of your enginering questions.

How the towers fell:
http://911myths.com/html/wtc__demolition_.html

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Very interesting thanks have a CC

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Same way we will never really know who shot JFK.

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THere is more evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK then there was against O.J. All it took were a few crazy people to INVENT conspriacy theorys, and keep saying them over and over again, and now a majarity of people think JFK was a conpiracy.

That is what is going to happen to 9-11, the crazy people will keep yelling there stories, until a sizable portion of the population, has no idea what really happend.


O yeah, and the towers were built to fall that way(to avoid a domino effect). Here is a link that will answer all of your enginering questions.

How the towers fell:
http://911myths.com/html/wtc__demolition_.html

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The tobacco industry has produced plenty of "evidence" and expert opinions that smoking doesn't cause cancer. All the pharmacutical companies provide evidence their products are safe, and have no sideeffects. Don't be niave.

There is some fooking interesting stuff here! I liike that Alex Jones guy,he makes valid points!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

There is some fooking interesting stuff here! I liike that Alex Jones guy,he makes valid points!

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agree not all of it is bs like some people say

Yup, like the Bush ties to Saudi oil familys. And the high ranking government officials being "skull&Bones" members. That stuff is easily proven and even admitted. Also Bush Sr. being a v.p. of the weapons company's that are awarded huge contracts from our gov. Also Prescott Bush arranging financing for nazi germany. Very well documented and easily proven.

It's just a coincidence though......

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Yup, like the Bush ties to Saudi oil familys. And the high ranking government officials being "skull&Bones" members. That stuff is easily proven and even admitted. Also Bush Sr. being a v.p. of the weapons company's that are awarded huge contracts from our gov. Also Prescott Bush arranging financing for nazi germany. Very well documented and easily proven.

It's just a coincidence though......

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EXACTLY but people are either too stupid to question these things OR they are just ignorant(ignorance maybe be bliss to some but not to me!!). Bro,fill me in on this skull and bones,I have read that it is a meeting once a year of all the top politicans etc(from around the world??),what do they do? Orgies? devil worshipping? They wear strange clothes don't they and what's up with the name!!

Skull and bones is a frat for the rich kids at Yale. We had one at Penn State, its nothing special.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

Skull and bones is a frat for the rich kids at Yale. We had one at Penn State, its nothing special.

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Right, just fun and games.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in576332.shtml

http://www.infowars.com/print/Secret...ry_bush_sb.htm

From the above CBS article:

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”


“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger than family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”

Building 7 top right side and bottom left , watch

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

From the above CBS article:

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”


“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger than family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”

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The thing is the secret society's is only one piece of the puzzle. These guys are crooked as hell, they only promote each other, they spend money like it's water, and your children's children have to pay back what they are blowing today. Crooks.... flat out. they live in luxery and hook each other up with contracts and it's all based upon us paying it back. These guys are all so smart why are we TRILLIONS of dollars in debt, and why are they able to still keep borrowing money?????

Remember when TWA flight 700 blew up & crashed into the ocean in '96?
Some people saw "a missile" hit it.
(More apparent "friendly fire")
Some people saw what appeared to be a flying saucer chasing it before it exploded.
(Damnedable aliens)
Probably somebody saw Elvis shoot it down with a slingshot.
(Denis the Menace syndrome)

I don't waste my time trying to spread doubt on what happened in a tragedy.
Conspiracy theorys sell. ::**
I especially love the "White Jet" in the video evidence of the pentagon.
That is as hokey as the trash can lid hanging from the string in the pictorial evidence of that one "authentic" UFO sighting in the early 50's. ::**

Here's some definitions for you... Obviously people always come up with a ridiculous example and say all "conspiracy theories" are hokey like this one.

conspire- to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government>

theory- 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science,


Once it can be proven that a group of people have secret agreements to mislead people and promote an agenda different than what they publically promote, it is very foolish to ignore this and excuse it.

I can guarantee that if you witnessed the 3 judges, and the ref for a major fight eating dinner with a promoter of one fighter the night before the fight, you would suspect some kind of CONSPIRACY. Especially if that promoters fighter was awarded a controversial decision. Why is it so unbelievable that politicians that have SO MUCH more money and power at stake actually do these things??? Especially when you can prove they go to the same schools, join the same "frats", hire and nominate each other for positions, award multi million dollar government contracts to each others companies???

Don't be a fool.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

From the above CBS article:

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”


“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger than family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”

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That is a spooky find ! Cool Click for the read !

Do you realize that they put Martha Stewart in jail for "conspiring" to save herself from losing money.

These jackass politicians do 10x's worse than that every day. The current V.P. of the country was the v.p. of the business that gets no bid contracts from the government to provide services overseas.

Insider trading is illegal. Unless you are a politician, and your family has billions of dollars. Power corrupts, that is a fact.

Don't confuse government conspiracy with bigfoot sightings, and pawn them off as garbage. This stuff is well documented and EASILY proven.

And don't think that public relations firms aren't employed to try to "spin" things so they are presented in a better light. Just like making abortion about "choice". That is a p.r. campaign. Everything is a choice, you have the choice whether or not to committ murder every day, only 1 kind is exempt from prosecution. It's still destroying a life, and you still have the same "choice".

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Here's some definitions for you... Obviously people always come up with a ridiculous example and say all "conspiracy theories" are hokey like this one.

conspire- to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government>

theory- 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science,


Once it can be proven that a group of people have secret agreements to mislead people and promote an agenda different than what they publically promote, it is very foolish to ignore this and excuse it.

I can guarantee that if you witnessed the 3 judges, and the ref for a major fight eating dinner with a promoter of one fighter the night before the fight, you would suspect some kind of CONSPIRACY. Especially if that promoters fighter was awarded a controversial decision. Why is it so unbelievable that politicians that have SO MUCH more money and power at stake actually do these things??? Especially when you can prove they go to the same schools, join the same "frats", hire and nominate each other for positions, award multi million dollar government contracts to each others companies???

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Hahaha! ;D (Outstanding useage of cut & paste for your definitions, Mr. Webster) ;D

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Don't be a fool.

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So what you are trying to say with that attempt of parallel logic is that we (The United States of America) fired one of our own Tomahawk Cruise Missiles into our own Pentagon so we could justify stomping the Iraqi Republican Guard ???
(or whatever they were called).

Okay. :D

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Originally Posted by brad4dboxer

Remember when TWA flight 700 blew up & crashed into the ocean in '96?
Some people saw "a missile" hit it.
(More apparent "friendly fire")
Some people saw what appeared to be a flying saucer chasing it before it exploded.
(Damnedable aliens)
Probably somebody saw Elvis shoot it down with a slingshot.
(Denis the Menace syndrome)

I don't waste my time trying to spread doubt on what happened in a tragedy.
Conspiracy theorys sell. ::**
I especially love the "White Jet" in the video evidence of the pentagon.
That is as hokey as the trash can lid hanging from the string in the pictorial evidence of that one "authentic" UFO sighting in the early 50's. ::**

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CC

The US government is a huge buracracy. They cant keep secretes. If there was really a conspiracy to murder 3000 Americans, you would have 75,000 govt workers writing "tell-all" books about it.

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Originally Posted by brad4dboxer

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Here's some definitions for you... Obviously people always come up with a ridiculous example and say all "conspiracy theories" are hokey like this one.

conspire- to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement <accused of conspiring to overthrow the government>

theory- 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science,


Once it can be proven that a group of people have secret agreements to mislead people and promote an agenda different than what they publically promote, it is very foolish to ignore this and excuse it.

I can guarantee that if you witnessed the 3 judges, and the ref for a major fight eating dinner with a promoter of one fighter the night before the fight, you would suspect some kind of CONSPIRACY. Especially if that promoters fighter was awarded a controversial decision. Why is it so unbelievable that politicians that have SO MUCH more money and power at stake actually do these things??? Especially when you can prove they go to the same schools, join the same "frats", hire and nominate each other for positions, award multi million dollar government contracts to each others companies???

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Hahaha! ;D (Outstanding useage of cut & paste for your definitions, Mr. Webster) ;D

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Don't be a fool.

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So what you are trying to say with that attempt of parallel logic is that we (The United States of America) fired one of our own Tomahawk Cruise Missiles into our own Pentagon so we could justify stomping the Iraqi Republican Guard ???
(or whatever they were called).

Okay. :D

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Webster is the most popular dictionary. And notice I did say definition. Usually you would look up a definition in a dictionary. I certainly didn't claim that I created these definitions.

I am trying to say that the story being presented isn't the full story. I didn't try to present an answer to these questions. I am stating that I don't buy the official story's though.

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

The US government is a huge buracracy. They cant keep secretes. If there was really a conspiracy to murder 3000 Americans, you would have 75,000 govt workers writing "tell-all" books about it.

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Guess that settles it then.

I understand. ;)
Sorry for calling you Mr. Webster.
I get a little sarcastic when I get rattled.
I'm a team guy who has trust & confidence in what he backs.
Whether he is backing his country or his little insignificant favorite football team. ;D

I'm loyal to a fault. :usa:

Brad :coolclick: I love America! the peoples , the many cultures ! its the best ! ;) :usa:

I love my country, but I fear my government.

Hopefully there is no hard feelings these differences of opinions. I do enjoy commenting on things I beleive are important. I briefly offer my opinions on fights, but I feel like I need to say a little more in this arena than usual.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have a great country. But I also think we have a bunch of greedy, crooked, bastards running it and they do everything in their power to make sure they keep what they have stolen, and will pass it on to their children.

I also believe that the form of government we have is NOT what was intended. People mistakenly believe we are a democrocy and majority rules. That is not and never should be the case. Democrocy is a horrible form of government. We were intended to be a Constitutional Republic. Democrocy means that people can band together and force the minorities to do whatever they wish. Obviously this wasn't how it was meant.

Anyways, i'm getting off my soapbox for tonight. 8)

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Originally Posted by luvfightgame

I love my country, but I fear my government.

Hopefully there is no hard feelings these differences of opinions. I do enjoy commenting on things I beleive are important. I briefly offer my opinions on fights, but I feel like I need to say a little more in this arena than usual.

Don't get me wrong, I think we have a great country. But I also think we have a bunch of greedy, crooked, bastards running it and they do everything in their power to make sure they keep what they have stolen, and will pass it on to their children.

I also believe that the form of government we have is NOT what was intended. People mistakenly believe we are a democrocy and majority rules. That is not and never should be the case. Democrocy is a horrible form of government. We were intended to be a Constitutional Republic. Democrocy means that people can band together and force the minorities to do whatever they wish. Obviously this wasn't how it was meant.

Anyways, i'm getting off my soapbox for tonight. 8)

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I love hearing your views ! Politics and Religion are touchy issues, but i love to dive in and discuss it ! I am game to hearing anyones views, Always respect someone for stating how they feel, regardless if i am in agreement. thats what its all about.. Cool Click in 24 ;)

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Originally Posted by Lyle

1) Planes aren't made out of wood

2) Use your teeth

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you can store flamable fluids etc in a lighter... more powerful than lighter fluid and have it undetected, plus don't tell me you have never exploded a cheap plastic lighter before? in the right place it could be lethal... :P

As for using your teeth, we only just got past that 'make fun of Lyle thread' and you want another one? :P

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

The US government is a huge buracracy. They cant keep secretes. If there was really a conspiracy to murder 3000 Americans, you would have 75,000 govt workers writing "tell-all" books about it.

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Same with New Orleans and the levees

My take on these documetaries is that they seem to be very convincing because they cite supposed scientific facts and data and make claims about what is and what is not impossible that the average layman not knowing anything about the subjects takes as being accurate.

For example the In Plane Sight video, immediately after watching that I felt sick to my stomach as I could not see how a plane could have possibly crashed into that building.

The crash site shole was just too small and it seemed it must have been a missile.

Half an hour later after reading rebuttal's on another site my mind was put to rest as I could now see that a plane actually isn't as wide as it's wingspan but rather just the width of the tubular middle part of the plane as the wings would have come off on impact and only the cyclindrical middle part of the plane would have buried into the Pentagon.

What I then found even more absurd and comical though was that after a bit more searching I found (seriously) conspiracy theorists claiming that the Loose Change style theorists, the Pod People they are called, are actullay themselves a government sponsered agency setup to create a diversion to camaflauge the true fact that the Jews did it!

Ultimately you have to remember that conspiracy theories, like any form of book and dvd release are about entertainment and selling a product.

Just have a look at the websites that are selling these films, books and countless other conspiracy theories. It's their industry, how they make money and as such they will ALWAYS produce conspiracy theory alternatives to any major event simply because they sell. That is the bottom line, even Michael Moore is guilty of the same thing.

Remember EVERY industry IS an industry meaning it exists to make money. The conspiricay theorists are no different.

I usually don't agree with the conclusions that many make. However I believe there is much useful information provided. I agree that everyone is trying to make a buck.

But the biggest industry is war. If you follow the money you will always find it leading right back to the people that make the decisions. Making it at the very least a conflict of interest.