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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Lyle
This just in!!!!!
Great DANE Kessler = Svenn Ottke
I will not trust that guy until he fights in the US or at least outside of his home country or Germany
So you don't trust Calzaghe than, right?
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
Easier there Tiger, I train MMA and have extensive tattoo work..... ;)
How would you feel if someone called you a Carolina pussy with a Goofy haircut...Well atleast they would be tellin you the truth... ;D
.....is one barb wire?
I don't mind tatoos but it's the ridiculous ones.....like Kessler's....people always tell me, "my tatoos mean stuff to me" and everyone has the EXACT SAME ONES!!!! Superman, barb wire, crosses, eagles, dragons, celtic, tribal....blah blah blah. I would have angry eyebrows tatooed on me.....that would psych them out!
also haircuts are much cheaper to fix ;D
....no offense bro
I know I'm Messin what you Bro .....I can HONESTLY say that my Tats are all original and I came up with the ideas for all of them I am fortunate my friend owns a very well known Tattoo shop in my area so I get the hookup .......I am a business man so I have to keep my work hidden also if I go fancy places in the summertime I look appropriate,so when I wear a Polo shirt or any other short sleeve shirt they are hidden unless I roll my Sleeves up.... But I dont have any trendy Tattoos that the next guy in the bar has...
No barbed wire or Cartoon characters, Tribal Bands or whatever the flavor of the day is....I mean its all good and well I dont judge anybody elses taste in ink I just have my preferences... ;)
I have one that starts under my shirt collar and goes down my right shoulder and is a midevil ornamental weapons theme with my initials and the word Menace worked in there with lightning weeved in there
on the inside of my right Bicep I have a design we named a Celtic Skull.....It's simply a Skull with amazing Celtic Knotwork all intertwined real Bad ass looking
On My Left deltoid I have a Rampant(Celtic) Lion
On my Right Pectoral is Covered by a Beautiful but Badass Gargoyle sitting on the edge of a roof on a Gothic style Building......
There all done in Black and white..I'm not a big fan of color.......The best thing is when you look you wouldnt think since I dont fit the stereotypical tatted up style
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
Exactly
it wouldn't sell fuck all
Thinking the fight could, or would, take place outside of either of their countries is showing a little naivete ;)
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
The "boxing community" in the states of course knows who Lacy is,but your average American sports fan(NFL,NBA,etc...) do not. My point is that Joe would make much more cash fighting Kessler in europe.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
The "boxing community" in the states of course knows who Lacy is,but your average American sports fan(NFL,NBA,etc...) do not. My point is that Joe would make much more cash fighting Kessler in europe.
Yes you are correct....I thought you were talking strictly Boxing community with Lacy...My BAd Bro...Kessler and Calzaghe do mean more in there respective countries than most Boxers in the USA as a whole
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
having the wbc and wba titles is better the holding the lesser valued wbo and ibf belts so surely it would be a must for joe ( but the fight won't happen ) being offer 3.4 million is a large amount of cash, the most joe has ever been offered surely joe will take the fight ( the fight won't happen ) surely the chance of becomeing the undisputed super middle weight champion is a huge standing, so joe will take the fight ( er er no the fight won't happen ) why because joe and frank warren aren't interested in tough fights they just talk one, they want a retired 41 year old b-hop to fight.
kesslers offerd 3.4 million so he has every right to want the fight in his home country, he's the one chasing the fight joes running from it, im fed up of hearing joe say he isn't looking to fight kessler
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by nuclear bull
having the wbc and wba titles is better the holding the lesser valued wbo and ibf belts so surely it would be a must for joe ( but the fight won't happen ) being offer 3.4 million is a large amount of cash, the most joe has ever been offered surely joe will take the fight ( the fight won't happen ) surely the chance of becomeing the undisputed super middle weight champion is a huge standing, so joe will take the fight ( er er no the fight won't happen ) why because joe and frank warren aren't interested in tough fights they just talk one, they want a retired 41 year old b-hop to fight.
kesslers offerd 3.4 million so he has every right to want the fight in his home country, he's the one chasing the fight joes running from it, im fed up of hearing joe say he isn't looking to fight kessler
I agree with most of your statement, but the World Titles mean Jack shit mate, Joe might hold the two you say are inferior but id rank IBF ahead of WBA but thats not the point, Joe is the attraction hear he holds the No.1 posistion, you know Joe's only excuse is being screwed by the Judges, but for that amount of money he should have faith in his skills and take the fight.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
if JOE C really wants to make an impression for us American bastards then hes gotta fight Kessler in LAS VEGAS at MGM GRAND there case solved. win win situation. HOLLAAAAAAAAAR
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Memphis
He beat Mundane in Australia Lyle.
and he didn't even KO him
Wowuweewow 2 out of 38 fights outside of DENMARK...not even outside of Europe.
Kessler is gay, he looks like a pussy little UFC fighter with those goofy a** tatoos!
Are you retarded ???, Kessler has fought in Australia and Las Vegas and i think it is outside of Europe
WOOOOOOOOOW what abouth yours great great Calzaghe 2 out of 42 fights outside of UK not even outside of Europe
By the way Calzaghe looks like a homosexual in a gay-bar ;D
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Calzaghe looks like a homo in a gay bar? as apposed to one outside of a gay bar? haha... you muppet...
This is coming from some one who is practicly hanging out of the arse of Kessler... with his little quiff and special Tattoo he stole from a film that is nearly 10 years old... yeah... I'd say he looks pretty queer... ;)
You and all the other fan boys are just saw because the best thing to come out of Denmark where those cartoons... :P
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
if JOE C really wants to make an impression for us American bastards then hes gotta fight Kessler in LAS VEGAS at MGM GRAND there case solved. win win situation. HOLLAAAAAAAAAR
The only problem with that is the age old arguement Those guys being Relative no namers in the state....Dont think they could sell out Vegas or the Boardwalk...
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
To be honest mate Lyle aint the biggest fan of Calzaghe, he was just making a judgement that Kessler is not as good as you and your Danish foot soldiers think he is. And i agree.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
Thing is Calzaghe wont make $3.7 million against Manfredo, he was paid less than half for that agaisnt Jeff Lacy.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
Unbelievable. This coming from the guy who was so upset about Floyd taking more money to fight Baldomir and not Margarito, who "has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)." ::**
There, at least Baldomir was the undisputed champ and had better names on his record than Margarito does. Here, on the other hand, Manfredo has beaten no one good and couldn't even win the Contender!
No excuses. Calzaghe is ducking Kessler if he fights Manfredo.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
To be honest mate Lyle aint the biggest fan of Calzaghe, he was just making a judgement that Kessler is not as good as you and your Danish foot soldiers think he is. And i agree.
Let us see who is right and who is wrong then or if Calzaghe and Kessler meet,but to be honest i dont think it will happen
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
To be honest mate Lyle aint the biggest fan of Calzaghe, he was just making a judgement that Kessler is not as good as you and your Danish foot soldiers think he is. And i agree.
Let us see who is right and who is wrong then or if Calzaghe and Kessler meet,but to be honest i dont think it will happen
I realise that I may be prodding a sleeping bear with a stick, but wtf, I never seen an angry bear.
I think that Calzaghe taking Manfredo instead of Kessler would be of benefit to the Dane, as then he wouldn't get his arse handed to him on a plate by the Welshman. Bring it on jan ;)
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
I agree there is no need to call boxers names(they are the ones putting their lives at risk), but I am getting sick of Joe. I dont understand WTF he is doing by fighting some joker from the contender. I feel that is "retarded". And what will Joe do if he does lose to Manfredo??? Ever think about that? Seems it would be a much better option to take on Kessler. If he lost to Kess it wouldnt be a huge shock and he'd probably get a rematch. He loses to Manfredo and he might as well forget boxing for decent cash ever again.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
He wishes he 'are' rent boy of kessler... ;)
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
He wishes he 'are' rent boy of kessler... ;)
You guys are going to get this thread killed just because you dont like each other. Why not stick with the facts and leave the personal shat for a pm? All I can say is I am losing respect for Joe because he is aparantlly taking these weak azz fights to build up his name in the USA. It wont work. Someone on his team needs to let him know this. He is just getting to close to his last fight to worry about what American fans think. Fight Kessler and that will prove much more than fighting a guy that was on a reality boxing tv show.
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
if JOE C really wants to make an impression for us American bastards then hes gotta fight Kessler in LAS VEGAS at MGM GRAND there case solved. win win situation. HOLLAAAAAAAAAR
The only problem with that is the age old arguement Those guys being Relative no namers in the state....Dont think they could sell out Vegas or the Boardwalk...
throw holyfield on the undercard then wink wink
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
He wishes he 'are' rent boy of kessler... ;)
You guys are going to get this thread killed just because you dont like each other. Why not stick with the facts and leave the personal shat for a pm? All I can say is I am losing respect for Joe because he is aparantlly taking these weak azz fights to build up his name in the USA. It wont work. Someone on his team needs to let him know this. He is just getting to close to his last fight to worry about what American fans think. Fight Kessler and that will prove much more than fighting a guy that was on a reality boxing tv show.
Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
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Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
He wishes he 'are' rent boy of kessler... ;)
You guys are going to get this thread killed just because you dont like each other. Why not stick with the facts and leave the personal shat for a pm? All I can say is I am losing respect for Joe because he is aparantlly taking these weak azz fights to build up his name in the USA. It wont work. Someone on his team needs to let him know this. He is just getting to close to his last fight to worry about what American fans think. Fight Kessler and that will prove much more than fighting a guy that was on a reality boxing tv show.
Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
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You are right in alot of things you mention here, I dont think Joe means to insult us or have little faith in us but I do agree that he has to make this match or he will be losing credibility it is time for Joe 2 Step up here there is NO DOUBT that Kessler is deserving of this fight and the Money is there ....
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do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
How does not knowing everything thing about your wank fodder make some one a retard? What's the need for name calling? Do you lack the ability to talks about things like an adult or does kessler just really turn you on ???
Personally I don't think it's OK to call any fighter names... you obviusly doesn't seem to respect people climbing through the ropes because you are not a boxing fan... just a Kessler fan boy.
Adam i noticed a mis type mate, you described him as a Kessler fan boy, didnt you mean Kesslers Rent Boy? ;D
He wishes he 'are' rent boy of kessler... ;)
You guys are going to get this thread killed just because you dont like each other. Why not stick with the facts and leave the personal shat for a pm? All I can say is I am losing respect for Joe because he is aparantlly taking these weak azz fights to build up his name in the USA. It wont work. Someone on his team needs to let him know this. He is just getting to close to his last fight to worry about what American fans think. Fight Kessler and that will prove much more than fighting a guy that was on a reality boxing tv show.
Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
:coolclick:
You are right in alot of things you mention here, I dont think Joe means to insult us or have little faith in us but I do agree that he has to make this match or he will be losing credibility it is time for Joe 2 Step up here there is NO DOUBT that Kessler is deserving of this fight and the Money is there ....
Thanks for the coolclick,but now i think i will go out and drink some beer tonight :beerchug:
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No disrespect to you fans of Kessler and Calzaghe but they haven't really fought anyone too terribly special.
Props to Joe for fighting Lacy THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN
Now I want to see Kessler step up vs someone good who isn't 80 years old
I WANT them to be good.....I just don't like them, that's all....nothing personal.....well at least not towards the fans
I like Joe's dad he's funny "This guy's got fuck all you've seen it now stop fuckin about!"....aaahhh such fatherly advice
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No disrespect to you fans of Kessler and Calzaghe but they haven't really fought anyone too terribly special.
Props to Joe for fighting Lacy THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN
Now I want to see Kessler step up vs someone good who isn't 80 years old
I WANT them to be good.....I just don't like them, that's all....nothing personal.....well at least not towards the fans
I like Joe's dad he's funny "This guy's got F*** all you've seen it now stop F****** about!"....aaahhh such fatherly advice
Kessler Vs Joe needs to happen. Im getting sick of waiting.
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Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
:coolclick: being a fan of both men...I can honestly say that this is about the most accurate assestment of the situation.
I'll honestly be ashamed of Joe if he doesn't fight Kessler. This is the situation with all champions. It is expected that they fight the #2 & #3 men. Kessler is #2. He's proven it & he's fought some of the better 168'ers out there.
The fact that most boxing fans know them or not is not the point...they are ranked on the ladder & Kessler has climbed them & stepped over them from Siaca to Mundine to Beyer & now the #1 man is passing on fighting him...saying that he means nothing & that he is not a name...
True boxing fans recognize the fact that the Contender was damned near a joke...I mean face it...it really was. Manfredo falls right in to the laughable category...especially when compared to Kessler.
Ball up Joe & fight Kess...it's the logical respectable option.
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Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
:coolclick: being a fan of both men...I can honestly say that this is about the most accurate assestment of the situation.
I'll honestly be ashamed of Joe if he doesn't fight Kessler. This is the situation with all champions. It is expected that they fight the #2 & #3 men. Kessler is #2. He's proven it & he's fought some of the better 168'ers out there.
The fact that most boxing fans know them or not is not the point...they are ranked on the ladder & Kessler has climbed them & stepped over them from Siaca to Mundine to Beyer & now the #1 man is passing on fighting him...saying that he means nothing & that he is not a name...
True boxing fans recognize the fact that the Contender was damned near a joke...I mean face it...it really was. Manfredo falls right in to the laughable category...especially when compared to Kessler.
Ball up Joe & fight Kess...it's the logical respectable option.
I was wondering when Whack was going to step in here. He is right ,the contender is/was damned near a joke. And Manfredo compaired to Kessler isnt even close. I begin to wonder if Joe really is scared to fight Kessler.
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Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
:coolclick: being a fan of both men...I can honestly say that this is about the most accurate assestment of the situation.
I'll honestly be ashamed of Joe if he doesn't fight Kessler. This is the situation with all champions. It is expected that they fight the #2 & #3 men. Kessler is #2. He's proven it & he's fought some of the better 168'ers out there.
The fact that most boxing fans know them or not is not the point...they are ranked on the ladder & Kessler has climbed them & stepped over them from Siaca to Mundine to Beyer & now the #1 man is passing on fighting him...saying that he means nothing & that he is not a name...
True boxing fans recognize the fact that the Contender was damned near a joke...I mean face it...it really was. Manfredo falls right in to the laughable category...especially when compared to Kessler.
Ball up Joe & fight Kess...it's the logical respectable option.
I was wondering when Whack was going to step in here. He is right ,the contender is/was damned near a joke. And Manfredo compaired to Kessler isnt even close. I begin to wonder if Joe really is scared to fight Kessler.
;D Right here babe!
I know that there are a few Manfredo fans on here...& I hate to offend...but apples to apples...he aint shit compared to Kess, nor is his list of opponents.
I just don't understand the rationalization of Calzaghe fans when they agree that Manfredo is a "game & name" opponent...sorry...but that is just bullshit.
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Ok let us stick to the facts
It is not like Mikkel Kessler is calling out a retired champion. I mean, if Kessler called out some former champ that is now retired, and said that if the former champ does not make a comeback, the former champ will lose all the respect that he gathered through his career. That would be totally wrong. Totally disrespectfull.
But that is not what is happening here. Mikkel Kessler is calling out a champ that is at the peak of his career. He is calling out a champ that claims he is number one in this weight division. Mikkel says "OK prove it against me and you can have all 4 belts and there will be no doubt that you are number one" But the great champ does not answer this challenge.
Calzaghe thinks too much of himself and too little of boxing fans.
Does he really think he has sealed his legacy ? Does he think that the Lacy fight which Joe himself says was his greatest performance ever will allow him to enter a Hall of Fame. I dont think so do you ? I know he has fought other great opposition. But it is not enough.
He thinks too little of boxing fans because he basically wants us to accept his claim that he is number 1 ON FAITH. He wants us to BELIEVE. He thinks that he does not have to PROOVE it to us. But he does not want to do that. He is above that apparently. But to proove it would be so very simple for him to do in this situation. But no.
If this situation does not anger boxing fans then.... I dont know. A great moment in boxing history is flushed out the toilet because of one man who has the audacity and boldness to call himself number one without being willing to prove it
:coolclick: being a fan of both men...I can honestly say that this is about the most accurate assestment of the situation.
I'll honestly be ashamed of Joe if he doesn't fight Kessler. This is the situation with all champions. It is expected that they fight the #2 & #3 men. Kessler is #2. He's proven it & he's fought some of the better 168'ers out there.
The fact that most boxing fans know them or not is not the point...they are ranked on the ladder & Kessler has climbed them & stepped over them from Siaca to Mundine to Beyer & now the #1 man is passing on fighting him...saying that he means nothing & that he is not a name...
True boxing fans recognize the fact that the Contender was damned near a joke...I mean face it...it really was. Manfredo falls right in to the laughable category...especially when compared to Kessler.
Ball up Joe & fight Kess...it's the logical respectable option.
I was wondering when Whack was going to step in here. He is right ,the contender is/was damned near a joke. And Manfredo compaired to Kessler isnt even close. I begin to wonder if Joe really is scared to fight Kessler.
;D Right here babe!
I know that there are a few Manfredo fans on here...& I hate to offend...but apples to apples...he aint S*** compared to Kess, nor is his list of opponents.
I just don't understand the rationalization of Calzaghe fans when they agree that Manfredo is a "game & name" opponent...sorry...but that is just bullshit.
Only thing I can figure is that Joe wants to go to Hollywood after boxing. Otherwise why fight some pretender from the contender??
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I WANT them to be good (Calzaghe and Kessler).....I just don't like them, that's all....nothing personal.....well at least not towards the fans
Oh I thought your intense dislike of Kessler was very personal AND connected to the fans.
By the way - been watching your posts on the subject lately and im thoroughly impressed with your ability to get every conceivable fact wrong.
You've been so consistant at it that I'm really lost as to whether you do it deliberately or out of plain ignorance.
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All I want is for the guy to prove himself before I start buying into any hype that surrounds the guy.
He fought Mundine in Australia, that's a start he needs to keep moving forward in his career and not go back to fighting bums in Copenhagen
I am the way I am about Kessler due to guys like Royal who think Kessler is a God among men....I don't think so...he MAY be good but he hasn't done anything to prove it yet....besides NOT LOSE which is good but still vs the guys he has fought not really too difficult
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Seems one of the common complaints about most any fighter, especially those at the top, that they
- are running from the best competition
- are handpicking their fights
- fought other greats past their prime or after someone else beat them down
PBF gets it, RJJ got it, Hopkins from some fans, Hatton gets it, Calzaghe is getting it. ODLH gets it!
If Kessler-Calzaghe never gets made, it will leave a question mark for Kessler even if he is never again defeated. "Yeah, but he never fought the best."
I know, Joe doesn't look like the best right now, but that's largely down-hype. He sure looked good against Lacy - better than expected - and all it takes is for him to do the same again, and he'll be at the top for a month or two. Until the boxing fans start to dismantle him once again. :)
The boxers live in their fantasy world, and we in ours.
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I don't know who is ducking who and so on and I also have only seen a handful of fights from either boxer, but I would think Calzaghe should be the favorate to win this one if it happens.
