Re: Calzaghe eyes Contender Manfredo
people seem to forget that no matter who calzaghe calls out ect its the promoters that make the fights calzaghe has no real say neither does any fighter they can demand doesnt mean they will get it though because its not up to them
Re: Calzaghe eyes Contender Manfredo
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
Im sure you mean good and all, but why wont he fight Kessler then? He took on Lacy so why be so worried about Kess. Its not like Joe can fight forever. And if he loses to Manfredo? What will you think then?
Dude, Calzaghe will not fight forever, same as everone else won't. I'm convinced that Joe C won't fight Kess simply because FW will hve tell him that it is his duty to fight an American, then beat whomever steps up on an American front, and to destroy everyone else in his path. I see Calzaghe winnning at a cruise against MK, but it is up tro him to prove that he is worthy of a world title shot by the champ. In honesty, Kessler should run. Run hard, run fast, and hide those belts in a rundown bunker. Whatever it takes doode!
So your conclusion is, that Calzaghe is just sooooo damn good, that he doesn't need to prove himself at all. And it doesn't matter at all that you've got another, younger, undefeated, two-belt champ in the division. Calzaghe's dominance is simply beyond question?
How did Calzaghe ever achieve that status? I can't imagine any other champ, in any other division, where given similar circumstances, ppl would just say - "no need for a unification fight, 'coz one guy has already proven himself beyond doubt".
I agree with you that Warren is most likely holding back (though i've seen nothing to indicate Calzaghe would have wanted it differently). But that doesn't mean i have to respect it or applaud it.
Re: Calzaghe eyes Contender Manfredo
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
people seem to forget that no matter who calzaghe calls out ect its the promoters that make the fights calzaghe has no real say neither does any fighter they can demand doesnt mean they will get it though because its not up to them
I don't believe for a sec, that Calzaghe has no say in it at all.
Re: Calzaghe eyes Contender Manfredo
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
Im sure you mean good and all, but why wont he fight Kessler then? He took on Lacy so why be so worried about Kess. Its not like Joe can fight forever. And if he loses to Manfredo? What will you think then?
Dude, Calzaghe will not fight forever, same as everone else won't. I'm convinced that Joe C won't fight Kess simply because FW will hve tell him that it is his duty to fight an American, then beat whomever steps up on an American front, and to destroy everyone else in his path. I see Calzaghe winnning at a cruise against MK, but it is up tro him to prove that he is worthy of a world title shot by the champ. In honesty, Kessler should run. Run hard, run fast, and hide those belts in a rundown bunker. Whatever it takes doode!
So your conclusion is, that Calzaghe is just sooooo damn good, that he doesn't need to prove himself at all. And it doesn't matter at all that you've got another, younger, undefeated, two-belt champ in the division. Calzaghe's dominance is simply beyond question?
How did Calzaghe ever achieve that status? I can't imagine any other champ, in any other division, where given similar circumstances, ppl would just say - "no need for a unification fight, 'coz one guy has already proven himself beyond doubt".
I agree with you that Warren is most likely holding back (though i've seen nothing to indicate Calzaghe would have wanted it differently). But that doesn't mean i have to respect it or applaud it.
I'm not convinced that Calzaghe has that much of a say in it really, he's just doing his job, workng for FW and getting paid for it. At the end of the day, like most other employees, he will do what he is told and fight similarly. Well, it is my view that Calzaghe, by force of experience and length of reign, is the dominant force. I'd like to see him fight Kessler, as I think it would make his legacy unbreakable, but it doesn't have to be the very next fight.
Re: Calzaghe eyes Contender Manfredo
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
Im sure you mean good and all, but why wont he fight Kessler then? He took on Lacy so why be so worried about Kess. Its not like Joe can fight forever. And if he loses to Manfredo? What will you think then?
Dude, Calzaghe will not fight forever, same as everone else won't. I'm convinced that Joe C won't fight Kess simply because FW will hve tell him that it is his duty to fight an American, then beat whomever steps up on an American front, and to destroy everyone else in his path. I see Calzaghe winnning at a cruise against MK, but it is up tro him to prove that he is worthy of a world title shot by the champ. In honesty, Kessler should run. Run hard, run fast, and hide those belts in a rundown bunker. Whatever it takes doode!
So your conclusion is, that Calzaghe is just sooooo damn good, that he doesn't need to prove himself at all. And it doesn't matter at all that you've got another, younger, undefeated, two-belt champ in the division. Calzaghe's dominance is simply beyond question?
How did Calzaghe ever achieve that status? I can't imagine any other champ, in any other division, where given similar circumstances, ppl would just say - "no need for a unification fight, 'coz one guy has already proven himself beyond doubt".
I agree with you that Warren is most likely holding back (though i've seen nothing to indicate Calzaghe would have wanted it differently). But that doesn't mean i have to respect it or applaud it.
I'm not convinced that Calzaghe has that much of a say in it really, he's just doing his job, workng for FW and getting paid for it. At the end of the day, like most other employees, he will do what he is told and fight similarly. Well, it is my view that Calzaghe, by force of experience and length of reign, is the dominant force. I'd like to see him fight Kessler, as I think it would make his legacy unbreakable, but it doesn't have to be the very next fight.
I agree with most of what you have written, except for Joe C. not having to fight Kess next. Joe has said that he only will fight another 3 or 4 times then he will retire. IMO a fighter like Joe needs to go out in style, unify and take on the type of opposition that will solidify his legacy. At this point he has used up any type of "tune up" fights.
