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I don't care what anyone says, Wladimir has heart and that's one of his best attributes.
Anyone who was an heir apparent that get's beat BADLY before getting a shot at THE CHAMPION has to have LOADS of heart and determination to climb that ladder and suffer another defeat and KEEP AT IT.
Gerry Cooney couldn't do that....and he's not the only one
Your right ! It's how a person handles himself after getting his ass beat that determines his worth. .. the shit birds fold tent. the great ones rise to the occasion chalk the loss up as a learning experience and then move on. I always say if you aint got a loss on your record, you aint fought nobody. for the most part that statement holds true. rare exceptions like Mayweather and Hatton. I shouldn’t be talking ugly, I've had my ass handed to me on more then one occasion. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
...we all have, and it's the ability to hop back up and try again that seperates the men from the boys.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
True Lyle. I am just saying that, as Wlad himself has said, I am not ready to call him "The" champ yet. I would like to see him beat the other champions first. Then I would like him to get the Ring championship belt and throw the others in the trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I have heard the Maskaev fight is in negotiations and I have heard that unless something big happens, IE Oleg loses to Okhello the fight will come off in April
I believe Wlad when he says he wants to unify, and I think he has come out and really tried hard to prove himself to the fans by taking out undefeated guys and fighting consistantly
I agree with you on those statements. I hope he does meet and beat OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Wlad and boxing fans might not consider him a Great boxer....but you'd be hard pressed to find a guy that does not think he's a Great guy.
He's humble, respectful, gives to the less fortunante....I mean for all we know Wlad and Vitali could win the Nobel Peace Prize.
I know that has fuck all to do with boxing...I like the way Wlad boxes but the way he handles himself and cares about bigger things than himself really make him my favorite fighter
These always make for interesting discussions.. i'll have to do some homework..lets see...excel spread sheet major 4 rankings..hmm add ring magazine scores..adjust for recent losses..hhmm this looks like work!
hhm this is tougher than it looks!!!
1 Klitchko tall skilled smart all around good can be ko'd
2 Valuev record is good jury is still out till hes tested
3 toney beat rahman,peter,and ruiz in my view
4,5,6 rahman,maskaev,peter a toss up here
7 chagaev southpaw beat ruiz maybe the dark horse
8 byrd can beat most of the above except maybe first 2 and maybe not toney
9 Evander ok its a sentimental pick but long track record and good conditioning. i didnt see the fight against fres. if it was like the donald fight put a big line thru evanders name with a fat jiffy marker and forget i said it!
Unify my a**! C'mon man, even middleweights are calling out Maskaev now that he has the title. He's the most vulnerable champ in the HW didvision in years. I didn't hear him calling out the other champs but I heard them call his name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle