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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Preme
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And Kesslers best 3?
One Rugby league player
One Canadaian who got bashed up by Glenn Catley, Britains fith or sixth best super middleweight of modern times.
One German who was also sparked out by our fifth or sixth best super middleweight, in his prime.
;D
What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
LOL u aint got a freaking clue have you? its been said about a million times on this board, articles posted and what nots about calzaghes first offer to hopkins after he had beaten tito, was a then career high payday, calzaghe has been calling hopkins out for like 4 -5 years you fool. When RJJ was at LH he was offerd $5mill to fight joe in the states, again priced out - there was big talks about joe going to fight tarver after he demolishd lacy, but hopkins went and put a beating on tarver that made him worthless to beat - damn if there was an award on this forum for the most retarded post ever you would get it hands down for that one.
Btw kessler has fought out side denmark twice, same amount of times as joe - well people say that but they dont consider the fact joes welsh (wales is a country not a part of england) he beat eubank there, reid and alot of others, if Kessler fought in germany you danes would consider that fighting out side of this home country.. same if a yank fought in canida or mexico...
To feducate u a lil too, calzaghe beat guys in just a few rounds who went the full 12 with sven otte in germany and huys who got fked on the decision, they may not of been world beaters, but the were screwed from getting the wbc and ibf world titles coz of home town boy Otte.
you forget veit was a highly regarded fighter at the time, 30 and 0 and calzaghe blew im away in the first round.
OK Mr. Asswipe, was Joe brave enough to fly for the Tarver,Hopkins and RJJ bout? Or did they demand it to be in Wales?
Its ok, you can defend bouts against Sika and Manfredo while Joe continues to call out every big name in the game.
This is the definition of a fraud.
no need to call me asswipe coz u made ur self look clueless, and if u ever botherd to read a thread without the work kessler in the title youd know this, warren offerd hopkins $3mill to fight joe in the US, don king acceptd contracts were sent hopkins changed his mind wnated 6mill, 3mill then was a career high pay day, hopkins was offerd %mill to fight joe in the states, refused wnated more, and as i said after tarver was beaten by hopkins calzaghe had no interest to fight him so no money was offerd so i highly doubt a venue was, eesh.
btw at the time, who else was joe meant to fight apart from Bika?
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by Memphis
And Kesslers best 3?
One Rugby league player
One Canadaian who got bashed up by Glenn Catley, Britains fith or sixth best super middleweight of modern times.
One German who was also sparked out by our fifth or sixth best super middleweight, in his prime.
;D
What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
and wtf do u mean he was talking about fighting tito this year? tito was the one who sparked all that sh*t off, hell i don't even remeber reading anywhere that jof even botherd answering that one...
I think it was on doghouse i read this
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by Memphis
And Kesslers best 3?
One Rugby league player
One Canadaian who got bashed up by Glenn Catley, Britains fith or sixth best super middleweight of modern times.
One German who was also sparked out by our fifth or sixth best super middleweight, in his prime.
;D
What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
and wtf do u mean he was talking about fighting tito this year? tito was the one who sparked all that sh*t off, hell i don't even remeber reading anywhere that jof even botherd answering that one...
I think it was on doghouse i read this
doghouseboxing.com is the most garbage boxing website on the internet.........HANDS DOWN!!!
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow shit about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
This is too legible of a post...who'd you copy & paste this one from?
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
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well i say lets just get it on instead of fighting TV stars Joe and unify the not so super middles !!!!
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well i say lets just get it on instead of fighting TV stars Joe and unify the not so super middles !!!!
And you get 3.4 million to do it. But fear is fear. And Joe is showing who he fears
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this S*** to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this S*** to your little a**. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this S***. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
HEY fester adams,hopkins ducks no man,calzaghe is a no name,hopkins already made a name for himself,calzaghe should have taken the fight for training expenses if hes so confident of winning,if he beat hopkins then the money would come later,calzaghe dosent deserve a big payday unless he beats kessler
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this S*** to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this S*** to your little a**. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this S***. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
HEY fester adams,hopkins ducks no man,calzaghe is a no name,hopkins already made a name for himself,calzaghe should have taken the fight for training expenses if hes so confident of winning,if he beat hopkins then the money would come later,calzaghe dosent deserve a big payday unless he beats kessler
reason he didnt fight hopkins is because he hates flying :P
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
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Originally Posted by stavros693000
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this S*** to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this S*** to your little a**. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this S***. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
HEY fester adams,hopkins ducks no man,calzaghe is a no name,hopkins already made a name for himself,calzaghe should have taken the fight for training expenses if hes so confident of winning,if he beat hopkins then the money would come later,calzaghe dosent deserve a big payday unless he beats kessler
reason he didnt fight hopkins is because he hates flying :P
That a lame excuse
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this S*** to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this S*** to your little a**. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this S***. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
HEY fester adams,hopkins ducks no man,calzaghe is a no name,hopkins already made a name for himself,calzaghe should have taken the fight for training expenses if hes so confident of winning,if he beat hopkins then the money would come later,calzaghe dosent deserve a big payday unless he beats kessler
reason he didnt fight hopkins is because he hates flying :P
That a lame excuse
it was a joke jeez lighten up 8)
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What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
This is too legible of a post...who'd you copy & paste this one from?
I has not copy & paste this from anyone
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And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this S*** to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this S*** to your little a**. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this S***. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
HEY fester adams,hopkins ducks no man,calzaghe is a no name,hopkins already made a name for himself,calzaghe should have taken the fight for training expenses if hes so confident of winning,if he beat hopkins then the money would come later,calzaghe dosent deserve a big payday unless he beats kessler
reason he didnt fight hopkins is because he hates flying :P
That a lame excuse
it was a joke jeez lighten up 8)
Not a very good one
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i was just telling a joke rotten apple to break the ice i didnt say it was going to be haha type of funny jeez lighten up .. 8)
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Irrelevant.
Whats silly is to insinuate Calzaghe's a coward when it was HOPKINS, DOUBLING a career high pay day, that scuppered a fight between the two. Fact.
Don't think anyone would claim Hopkins made bad decisions. Quite the opposite. $10m to fight a little welterweight? Smart move. ;)
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
What proven SMW has Calzaghe beaten to deserve the accolades he has received?
Robin Reid? Mario Veit? Chris Eubank? or Jeff Lacy?
Kessler has already unified at SMW, and it didnt take him 40+ fights against bums all in his own backyard.
Where was Calzaghe when Tarver won his titles? Where was he when RJJ was at LHW? Or is it only ok for him to fight men who started at lower weights than he did?
Why didnt he call out Hopkins before his retirement?
Why was he talking about Trinidad, a natural welterweight or junior middle earlier this year?
Just like Jones is chastised for having never fought Benn, Eubank, McClellan, etc., Calzaghe will receive the same harsh criticism for not fighting an active Hopkins, Jones Jr., Tarver, Kessler, etc.
And for the love of god, Kessler started in the same division, has also unified, and isn't currently retired.
This is too legible of a post...who'd you copy & paste this one from?
I has not copy & paste this from anyone
I can see why he would think it would be
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Irrelevant.
Whats silly is to insinuate Calzaghe's a coward when it was HOPKINS, DOUBLING a career high pay day, that scuppered a fight between the two. Fact.
Don't think anyone would claim Hopkins made bad decisions. Quite the opposite. $10m to fight a little welterweight? Smart move. ;)
Don't confuse posts. I've never once called Calzaghe a coward. I just pointed out that it was foolish to say Hopkins ducked Calzaghe. And your right my post was irrelevent, since Violent D had already answered your question and pretty much shut you up in the process.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Irrelevant.
Whats silly is to insinuate Calzaghe's a coward when it was HOPKINS, DOUBLING a career high pay day, that scuppered a fight between the two. Fact.
Don't think anyone would claim Hopkins made bad decisions. Quite the opposite. $10m to fight a little welterweight? Smart move. ;)
Don't confuse posts. I've never once called Calzaghe a coward. I just pointed out that it was foolish to say Hopkins ducked Calzaghe. And your right my post was irrelevent, since Violent D had already answered your question and pretty much shut you up in the process.
I think you're confusing yourself my man. Look what you said
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The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Insinuation? Hope this helps. ;)
I never asked Violent D a question and he hasn't even made a reply yet.
You've got yourself a little befuddled ;)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Rotten Apple
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Irrelevant.
Whats silly is to insinuate Calzaghe's a coward when it was HOPKINS, DOUBLING a career high pay day, that scuppered a fight between the two. Fact.
Don't think anyone would claim Hopkins made bad decisions. Quite the opposite. $10m to fight a little welterweight? Smart move. ;)
Don't confuse posts. I've never once called Calzaghe a coward. I just pointed out that it was foolish to say Hopkins ducked Calzaghe. And your right my post was irrelevent, since Violent D had already answered your question and pretty much shut you up in the process.
I think you're confusing yourself my man. Look what you said
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While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Insinuation? Hope this helps. ;)
I never asked Violent D a question and he hasn't even made a reply yet.
You've got yourself a little befuddled ;)
What part of "I won't call him a coward" did you not understand? And Violent D answered your question in his last post
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And Calzaghe top three opponents are, one whom is a former middleweight who is retired, another is a middleweight now, and Manfredo is a reality TV star, much more than he is a prizefighter.
The 5 rules to Joe Calzaghe's matchmaking:
Dodge, Duck, Dive, Dip, Dodge
Calzaghe's 3 rules for type of opponent to face:
Old and shot
Inexperience and overrated
Obscure European club fighter
so why did u boy price them selvs out to fight joe then big boy? u eithe rknow S*** about boxing or are just a racist prick, my guess is both.
You mean like when Calzcrappy price himself out against Sven Ottke? Hell, he wouldn't of even had to leave Europe for that fight. I don't have to wonder about you. I already know you know nothing about boxing. That little pick of Calzcrappy you have up (and your moronic posts) tell me your nothing but a lust filled groupie.
still cant answer that question can you? any idiot with the msot remote boxing knowlage would understand why any fighter with a belt wudn't go to germany to fight otte - fact is you slate calzaghe for not fighting kessler, when countless times hopkins and RJJ priced thems elves out even when the fight was in their back yard, and you got nothing, only childish imature insults.
At first I taught you were just acting stupid. Now I know you really are. Why do you Calzcrappy groupies always use the Hopkins situation to try and back up your boy? When in reality all it does is show your boys true lack of heart. Now I'm going explain this shit to you one more time. So call your mom over to the computer and have her read this shit to your little ass. Alright, kid? That way you can completely understand this shit. So here we go.
Hopkins did verbally accept (he hadn't signed a contract, yet) a $3 million offer to fight Calzaghe. But before he could sign a contract, Oscar De La Hoya expressed an intrest to fight Hopkins. Hopkins knew (hell, everybody knew) a De La Hoya fight was worse 10 times (if not more) than a Calzaghe fight. Not to mention the fact that his purse would be 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would be. Since no contracts were signed, Hopkins was within his right to pull out of the Calzaghe fight. Anybody with any brains would of done the same thing. But rather than just dismiss Calzaghe completely, Hopkins actually gave him an option. Double his purse and the fight can go on. 6 million was not a price out number. It was a reasonable amount. Hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion and at the time was consider the p4p # 1 fighter. Not to mention the fact that Hopkins was the one who was going to Calzaghe's division. Not the other way around. Since Calzaghe had been crying for years that he wanted to fight a big name, this shouldn't of been much of a problem. But it was. Calzaghe (not surprisingly) decline the offer and went back to his usual crying that he can't get a big fight. That's why he's in the situation he's in now. Fighting a reality TV star, in what in his head is considered a big fight.
ahahaa ;D
Nice spin.
The Hopkins method: Educated duck.
Dress it up anyway you want Hopkins ducked him to fight easier foes for less dough. ;)
He's actually right. The 3 fights Hopkins took before Del La Hoya were necessary for the De La Hoya fight to happen. The Morrade Hakkar fight was a joke. But it was also a WBC mandatory. Hopkins took it to keep from being stripped. Hopkins was still under contract to Don King for one more fight. The William Joppy fight took care of that. He than fought Robert Allen to stay busy/showcase while Oscar fought for the one belt Hopkins didn't own. The WBO. In the end it all lead to Hopkins making the most money he ever made. Which was more than 3 times what his purse for the Calzaghe fight would of been. For you to say Hopkins ducked anybody is just silly. The man is not afraid of anybody. While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Irrelevant.
Whats silly is to insinuate Calzaghe's a coward when it was HOPKINS, DOUBLING a career high pay day, that scuppered a fight between the two. Fact.
Don't think anyone would claim Hopkins made bad decisions. Quite the opposite. $10m to fight a little welterweight? Smart move. ;)
Don't confuse posts. I've never once called Calzaghe a coward. I just pointed out that it was foolish to say Hopkins ducked Calzaghe. And your right my post was irrelevent, since Violent D had already answered your question and pretty much shut you up in the process.
I think you're confusing yourself my man. Look what you said
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While I won't call him a coward, I really can't say the same about Calzaghe.
Insinuation? Hope this helps. ;)
I never asked Violent D a question and he hasn't even made a reply yet.
You've got yourself a little befuddled ;)
What part of "I won't call him a coward" did you not understand? And Violent D answered your question in his last post
OK bud you weren't insinuating anything.
Now, before this turns into a complete farce, why don't you find my question, post it, and post VDs answer (even though he hasn't replied to anything ive said ;D). I think you'll stop confusing yourself then. ;)
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Vd didn't answer jack, the only fight that what needed was hakker, hopkins cud of fought joe as the second or third fight before de la hoya. All Vd is saying is it is ok for hopkind to fight 3 bums (given 1 was a mandetory) to take on a ww for alot of money, but when calzaghe takes on cintender and former no 3 in the world to try land a fight with taylor, hes wrong?
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Vd didn't answer jack, the only fight that what needed was hakker, hopkins cud of fought joe as the second or third fight before de la hoya. All Vd is saying is it is ok for hopkind to fight 3 bums (given 1 was a mandetory) to take on a ww for alot of money, but when calzaghe takes on cintender and former no 3 in the world to try land a fight with taylor, hes wrong?
My apologies to Fenster. There was no way Oscar would of deal ed with Don King. So Hopkins had to fight Joppy to fullfill his contract. That's consider necessary. The Allen fight was a stay busy fight. Why couldn't Calzaghe of been the opponent instead of Allen, you ask? Cuz there is no way Calzaghe would of fought for the money Allen fought for. Now you understand? Look I don't share the same opinion as Violent D regarding Calzaghe. I think he's a very good fighter. I just don't understand his thinking. He's looking for big money fights, yet he turns down 3 million. And from what I hear he's looking for Taylor. Not the other way around. Oscar came looking for Hopkins. So there is a chance that all of Joe's current moves will lead to nothing.
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Straight from the beginning Kessler will throw more than 100 punches per round. They will all be straight on target and Joe has never seen anything remotely like it (the closest is Reid, but there is still a couple of levels difference). Joe will be frustrated and loose a couple of rounds easily while trying to think, sidestep etc. Then he will try to outsmart himself as he will skip, skittle all over the place in order to find a solution. In the meanwhile Mikkel will open up even more and put on the power. Joe gets caught as he more and more desparately tries to find a solution. Now Joe wants to brawl... however each time he decides to brawl he gets stopped dead in his tracks by some mean punches straight to the face. At this time (mid 4th round) Joe is bleeding from the nose and both eyes are severely swollen.
His father is in schock and instead of asking Joe to survive he urges Joe on. Joe still has a lot of energy left he just cannot finda way to use it. In the 5th round he is a little more successful and hits Kessler a couple of times with a jab of his own. Joe quickly follows up and flurries - Kessler skips back and Joe jumps after him... And the fight is over. Now Joe know why Kessler was called the Hitman. He has done this a gazillion times (just not in his last 7-8 fights because they generally have protected themselves more). An agressive Joe jumps straight into Kessler's oldest tactic. To skip back when in a little "trouble" and hope the opponent follows in order to keep the perceived pressure on. He plants his feet the second he land from the skip and smack!
Joe is looked after by the medical staff and only 4 minutes later Joe is able to stand up and the crowd cheer. Joe has won more from this loss than from all his wins added up ;D
Kessler is as one dimensional as lacy and would end up completley confused, trying to work out what angle he was gonna get hit from next... No way does Joe stop him, but wins a fairly easy decision . Calzaghe has too much speed an natural ability. The only way Mikkel beats him is KO and that aint gonna happen IMO
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Straight from the beginning Kessler will throw more than 100 punches per round. They will all be straight on target and Joe has never seen anything remotely like it (the closest is Reid, but there is still a couple of levels difference). Joe will be frustrated and loose a couple of rounds easily while trying to think, sidestep etc. Then he will try to outsmart himself as he will skip, skittle all over the place in order to find a solution. In the meanwhile Mikkel will open up even more and put on the power. Joe gets caught as he more and more desparately tries to find a solution. Now Joe wants to brawl... however each time he decides to brawl he gets stopped dead in his tracks by some mean punches straight to the face. At this time (mid 4th round) Joe is bleeding from the nose and both eyes are severely swollen.
His father is in schock and instead of asking Joe to survive he urges Joe on. Joe still has a lot of energy left he just cannot finda way to use it. In the 5th round he is a little more successful and hits Kessler a couple of times with a jab of his own. Joe quickly follows up and flurries - Kessler skips back and Joe jumps after him... And the fight is over. Now Joe know why Kessler was called the Hitman. He has done this a gazillion times (just not in his last 7-8 fights because they generally have protected themselves more). An agressive Joe jumps straight into Kessler's oldest tactic. To skip back when in a little "trouble" and hope the opponent follows in order to keep the perceived pressure on. He plants his feet the second he land from the skip and smack!
Joe is looked after by the medical staff and only 4 minutes later Joe is able to stand up and the crowd cheer. Joe has won more from this loss than from all his wins added up ;D
You are an idiot. You are so dumb it barely even matches up with your Username. I very rarely sad click people but you just need it :dummespost: :sadclick:
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Re: This will happen if Calzaghe fought Kessler
Well being a Kessler fan ( just look old post) I was also disappointed that the fight will not happen in the near future. But the fact is that Kessler needs to prove what he is made of against worldclass fighters before Calzaghe will consider this match.
I think that Joe C has proven he is one of the best. IMO Kessler is not that far behind and deserved a shot now, but he is not in the picture anymore.
I hope the comming Kessler fights he will prove to live up to the high Danish hopes, but the description of Kessler here is just plain stupid. Fair enough that fans disagree but come on and be real. This discussion could have come from the kindergarden ;D
pace be with yo O0
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Well being a Kessler fan ( just look old post) I was also disappointed that the fight will not happen in the near future. But the fact is that Kessler needs to prove what he is made of against worldclass fighters before Calzaghe will consider this match.
I think that Joe C has proven he is one of the best. IMO Kessler is not that far behind and deserved a shot now, but he is not in the picture anymore.
I hope the comming Kessler fights he will prove to live up to the high Danish hopes, but the description of Kessler here is just plain stupid. Fair enough that fans disagree but come on and be real. This discussion could have come from the kindergarden ;D
pace be with yo O0
very good post and finally found kessler fan thats not so biased cc for you sir 8)
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Calzaghe didn't KO Jeff Lacy either, even though he got 1200 free shots. Neither was he able to KO Rick Thornberry (who Mundine KOed) or Kabary Salem (who Bute KOed) or even Evans Ashira
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Calzaghe didn't KO Jeff Lacy either, even though he got 1200 free shots. Neither was he able to KO Rick Thornberry (who Mundine KOed) or Kabary Salem (who Bute KOed) or even Evans Ashira
But Joe was able to knockout Mkrtchian, Veit, Mitchell, Sheika, & about 26 or 27 others.
Kessler hasn't knocked them out.
The thing is...people focus on knockouts too much & when trying to complain about Calzaghe's opposition...they often forget to recognize the one's that are quality or how they were stiff competition.
Calzaghe is one hell of a boxer...the thing that bothers me about Kessler fans (& lately...I am a bit ashamed to call myself one for fear of appearing border line fanatical) is that the majority of them get a bit holier than though regarding his performances & the men that he has fought.
Kessler is not infallable. He's not almighty. There are holes in his defense & weaknesses that will be easily exposed & capitalized upon when he steps up to one of the top fighters...actually...he is on top of the pile...but when he & Calzaghe fight...he'll have a hard night at it.
In the end...I am pissed off at Joe for not taking the challenge...but maybe the rivalry needs to build & maybe in a year or so...maybe the fight will happen & maybe we will all get some answers...either way...I'm interested to see how it all pans out.
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Calzaghe didn't KO Jeff Lacy either, even though he got 1200 free shots. Neither was he able to KO Rick Thornberry (who Mundine KOed) or Kabary Salem (who Bute KOed) or even Evans Ashira
Calzaghe is one hell of a boxer...the thing that bothers me about Kessler fans (& lately...I am a bit ashamed to call myself one for fear of appearing border line fanatical) is that the majority of them get a bit holier than though regarding his performances & the men that he has fought.
In the end...I am pissed off at Joe for not taking the challenge...but maybe the rivalry needs to build & maybe in a year or so...maybe the fight will happen & maybe we will all get some answers...either way...I'm interested to see how it all pans out.
noone is saying that Calzaghe wasn't good. The issue is that he is protected and acts like a chicken.
I hope you are right but I don't think you are -- EVERYTHING in Calzaghe's career and behavior suggests that this fight will never be made. If it gets made though, my respect for Calzaghe will skyrocket, even if he loses.
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In all fairness..... Kessler fan..whatever your name is..
Its just not happening... Especially not in that way..
Who ever said that joe is either scared or bla bla something about wont unify the titles..
one.. fair play joe IS finally looking for larger fights.. i didnt say big fights just yet..
and hes decided that titles mean S*** when your fighting nobodies.. took him long enough..
and two.. he's dropped the ibf title so what is the point of having a fight with a barely heard of fighter like kessler when its not a complete unification anymore..
Mikkel needs the fight but joe doesnt..
And dont no one call me a nut hugger for calzaghe cos i dont like the guy..
what ive said is just true..
First of all, let's not forget that Calzaghe holds the WBO belt, which means he practically never had to fight a mandatory. His manager chose against who he would "defend" his "title". This is, of course, a travesty.
Moreover, as soon as Calzaghe got his hands on a half-decent belt (IBF) he dropped it. It's easy to figure out why: the IBF may have required Calzaghe one day to defend against a decent opponent of THEIR chosing -- say, a slick counterpuncher. They may even have held purse bids that Warren could have lost. Shock horror. Far too hot to handle
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If Joe C. really wanted the recognition and respect of the people he'd be fighting Kessler but hes not instead hes fighting Peter. It's that simple...... :)
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If Joe C. really wanted the recognition and respect of the people he'd be fighting Kessler but hes not instead hes fighting Peter. It's that simple...... :)
True. Apparently...all Joe really cares about is his record defences...which in the end means nothing if no one really rates your opposition.
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money talks that is why Joe is fighting Manfredo purely for bums on seats and with the publicity that goes with the contender series.
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money talks that is why Joe is fighting Manfredo purely for bums on seats and with the publicity that goes with the contender series.
He was offered $8 mill. if I'm not mistaken, to fight Kessler. And by the way Peter was on the Contender 2 seasons ago, all that publicity is for the new contenders & the winners.
And as I told you on the other post, so if ODLH decides to fight Grady Brewer it'll be OK?
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money talks that is why Joe is fighting Manfredo purely for bums on seats and with the publicity that goes with the contender series.
He was offered $8 mill. if I'm not mistaken, to fight Kessler. And by the way Peter was on the Contender 2 seasons ago, all that publicity is for the new contenders & the winners.
And as I told you on the other post, so if ODLH decides to fight Grady Brewer it'll be OK?
Imagine if Mayweather would go after Brewer? He would be crucified by these same people that are trying to justified Calzaghe-Manfredo
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He was offered $8 mill. if I'm not mistaken, to fight Kessler.
To be fair to Joe, i think the Kessler offer was "only" for arround 3,5 mill$/1,8 mill£. (the exact figure Palle has been quoted for was 20 mill. danish kroner).
Still a good purse, but obviously not enough to make Calzaghe run a risk.
