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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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I'm not a huge Miranda fan...but that was fun.
Here's the thing...if he wants to hanger a new fan...do what he did tonight to Gibbs...but do that S*** to Jermain Taylor.
I want to see how Taylor handles adversity & power like that.
Taylor boxes on the backfoot like he did against Wright & Ouma...Miranda will knock him out.
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Eventhough I was at the fight, thanks for doing the RBR for those who couldnt see it.
And does it seem like Miranda is starting to grow on you just a little?!?!? ;)
He really is a great guy and good for boxing, brings excitment.
I talked with Jim Lampley after the fight. In his opinion 'Abraham beats Taylor and Winky, and Miranda beat Abraham'.
Just an opinion, but I found it interesting that he thinks Abraham and Miranda are better than Winky and Taylor.
I think he was just trying to make you feel good. Cuz it's not something he would say in public. I'll take Miranda over Abraham (who I think lost the fight) and Taylor. But I think he'll have the same problem Trinidad had against Wright
I don't think it would be the same as with Tito cause that was not the same hungry young Tito of old. Miranda is still trying to prove his point and fights aggressively all the time like Tito used to. Another difference is that Tito has always been very clumsy on his feet and Miranda, although I wouldn't say he has great balance, is a little more steady on his.
So you think Miranda could win? Why didn't Tito just let his hands go against Winky?¬
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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I'm not a huge Miranda fan...but that was fun.
Here's the thing...if he wants to hanger a new fan...do what he did tonight to Gibbs...but do that S*** to Jermain Taylor.
I want to see how Taylor handles adversity & power like that.
Taylor boxes on the backfoot like he did against Wright & Ouma...Miranda will knock him out.
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Eventhough I was at the fight, thanks for doing the RBR for those who couldnt see it.
And does it seem like Miranda is starting to grow on you just a little?!?!? ;)
He really is a great guy and good for boxing, brings excitment.
I talked with Jim Lampley after the fight. In his opinion 'Abraham beats Taylor and Winky, and Miranda beat Abraham'.
Just an opinion, but I found it interesting that he thinks Abraham and Miranda are better than Winky and Taylor.
I think he was just trying to make you feel good. Cuz it's not something he would say in public. I'll take Miranda over Abraham (who I think lost the fight) and Taylor. But I think he'll have the same problem Trinidad had against Wright
I don't think it would be the same as with Tito cause that was not the same hungry young Tito of old. Miranda is still trying to prove his point and fights aggressively all the time like Tito used to. Another difference is that Tito has always been very clumsy on his feet and Miranda, although I wouldn't say he has great balance, is a little more steady on his.
So you think Miranda could win? Why didn't Tito just let his hands go against Winky?¬
I don't know about Miranda winning but I just don't see him getting completely shut out. I wish Tito would have let his hands go but 15 seconds in, I knew he was in trouble. Every time Tito stepped in to throw his shots, he stepped on Winkys foot and seemingly turned his ankle a bit and when he tried different ways around it, he just played into Winkys hands cause it took him too long to set up to punch and Winky just took advantage of it all night.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
So you think Miranda could win? Why didn't Tito just let his hands go against Winky?¬
Exactly, while a puncher like Miranda always has the threat of connecting with a big shot to end a fight; someone like Winky can usually frustrate them to the point of making them either gun shy or predictable, sloppy reachers.
It is exciting to think that Miranda could be that rare fighter that relies on power, who is able to have continued success against elite competition. I wonder if he'll be able to stay a middleweight though.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
I thoroughly enjoyed the Litzau fight! I actually like watching him from all those exciting FNF appearances. I thought he lost the Nolasco fight...
I thought it was an interesting example of how much psychology is involved in boxing. When his trainer kept urging him to be careful, it seemed to me like Litzau was taking it as a challenge to his manhood rather than sound advice. ;D Maybe he'll learn to listen, and tuck his chin in a little better next time too!
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Its not impossible Winky and Miranda will fight. If Miranda has a big name fight in Florida and wins maybe there would be enough interest in a fight between him and Winky that promises of a respectable purse makes the fight happen in Tampa or Hollywood.
What do you think the outcome will be bro?
I agree with other posts suggesting that Miranda has a good chance because he won't be gunshy, and though Taylor couldn't bust through the gaurd completely I think Miranda may have the power to break through it. Winky is also sitting still and trading punches somewhat in his last few fights, I dont think he has the power to seriously hurt Miranda and that could be trouble for Winky. I like Winky alot and wouldn't be suprised if he won, but my money would be on Miranda.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
:coolclick: s to all on the thread.
Now...here's my take on Miranda...I'm not anymore impressed with him than I have been in the past.
Totally expected him to blast Gibbs out. I like Willie Gibbs...a lot. He's a good guy & he's a decent boxer with pretty good power. Something that no one commented on & something that I saw...but thought that I was just drunk...or imagining it...he connected pretty well against Miranda & kinda rattled him.
Abraham & also Eastman have done the same...& IWO...this could be a problem in the future...but that can be said about most fighters at 160lbs...right?
Wrong. Here's my take on the possibility of Wright vs Miranda.
Miranda might MIGHT be able to stun Wright with his power...but he won't be able to knock him out nor will he be able to outwork Wright. At the risk of sounding cliche'...Wright is the true dark horse of the middleweight division...not Miranda...as I have said before.
Wright would frustrate Miranda as he does everyone else that he has faced over the years. Avoided by most of the talent in the division, Wright is a tricky customer & a tuff sell for most opponents. While Miranda might mince words & claim that he wants Wright...he won't in the end when it all comes down to it, nor will his power be accurate or focused enough to find a home. Sure I think that he will land some shots...but Wright will land more & control him with his jab...something that Miranda still doesn't deem necessary to use.
Anyone that watched the Abraham Miranda fight should have seen that.
Miranda's power will be a factor against anyone...period...especially Taylor, who was stunned by both Wright & Ouma. That says a lot. Taylor has answered all the questions about himself with a question mark instead of an exclamation point.
Miranda could answer pretty much every question posed by Taylor's doubters.
Miranda by knockout against Taylor...& rightly so.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
:coolclick: s to all on the thread.
Now...here's my take on Miranda...I'm not anymore impressed with him than I have been in the past.
Totally expected him to blast Gibbs out. I like Willie Gibbs...a lot. He's a good guy & he's a decent boxer with pretty good power. Something that no one commented on & something that I saw...but thought that I was just drunk...or imagining it...he connected pretty well against Miranda & kinda rattled him.
Abraham & also Eastman have done the same...& IWO...this could be a problem in the future...but that can be said about most fighters at 160lbs...right?
Wrong. Here's my take on the possibility of Wright vs Miranda.
Miranda might MIGHT be able to stun Wright with his power...but he won't be able to knock him out nor will he be able to outwork Wright. At the risk of sounding cliche'...Wright is the true dark horse of the middleweight division...not Miranda...as I have said before.
Wright would frustrate Miranda as he does everyone else that he has faced over the years. Avoided by most of the talent in the division, Wright is a tricky customer & a tuff sell for most opponents. While Miranda might mince words & claim that he wants Wright...he won't in the end when it all comes down to it, nor will his power be accurate or focused enough to find a home. Sure I think that he will land some shots...but Wright will land more & control him with his jab...something that Miranda still doesn't deem necessary to use.
Anyone that watched the Abraham Miranda fight should have seen that.
Miranda's power will be a factor against anyone...period...especially Taylor, who was stunned by both Wright & Ouma. That says a lot. Taylor has answered all the questions about himself with a question mark instead of an exclamation point.
Miranda could answer pretty much every question posed by Taylor's doubters.
Miranda by knockout against Taylor...& rightly so.
I think Miranda has the power to knock anyone out, including Winky , Winky's problem would be commanding the respect needed to keep a guy like Miranda at bay. I see Miranda being very dangerous for Wright because of Winky's lack of power. I think that Miranda would walk thru Wrights punches and have the power to break that peek-a-boo defense. especially over the course of a 12 Round bout . I would favor Miranda in that match.
Miranda -vs.- Taylor = I would favor Taylor slightly over Miranda only because Taylor has the hammer ( power) to get that respect, and has the better overall boxing skills then Miranda . JMO
Enjoyed your write - up Wacko ! O0 Cool Click #2436
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
Miranda needs to turn his pawing reaching jab to a snapping one like Ike Quartey has
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I think Miranda has the power to knock anyone out, including Winky , Winky's problem would be commanding the respect needed to keep a guy like Miranda at bay. I see Miranda being very dangerous for Wright because of Winky's lack of power. I think that Miranda would walk thru Wrights punches and have the power to break that peek-a-boo defense. especially over the course of a 12 Round bout . I would favor Miranda in that match.
Oh bwoy...here we go. ;D Lemmee take a deep breaf!
Totally disagree with you...100%...but I like your right up. :coolclick:
Lemmee counter that. ;D
Wright's been hit by some of the heaviest handed fighters out there on his way up, he's never been knocked out convincingly, & he's also matched skill for skill with some of the most respected fighters in the game. Granted Wright has been beaten three times...but only two were actually convincing. The loss to Vargas was not a convincing one & they traded some serious leather. Of late that has become a habit that Wright has adopted to gain more fans...less tactical & more contact.
Wright's got the chin to take that approach. Miranda, heavy handed as he is was not able to knock Abraham out...he argueably stopped Eastman...& in my opinion...Wright's got the better defense & equally better chin. It's never wise to right Wright off...many have...& many have been surprised.
As far as the respect aspect goes...watch the Taylor match again...then tune in the Mosley fights.
Wright is an intimidating figure that is cut out when you hit the middle rounds. Power & skill goes out the window once the other opponent realizes that neither is going to work against Winky.
I'm not saying Wright's a world beater...but he's a class up from all the rest...he's as much of a step up in class as Miranda is a step up in power.
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Miranda -vs.- Taylor = I would favor Taylor slightly over Miranda only because Taylor has the hammer ( power) to get that respect, and has the better overall boxing skills then Miranda . JMO
Although I like Taylor...he's proven one thing to me in the last two years...that he was better against lesser opposition...all of which had little to no confidence in themselves.
Miranda by shocking upset to everyone but me.
Taylor has a very weak defense if he has any at all...cliche as it is...his defense is his offence & on the backfoot...it's fwockin weak.
I no longer have faith in Taylor...no matter what he does.
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Enjoyed your write - up Wacko ! O0 Cool Click #2436
Agree or disagree...let's talk it out.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Miranda needs to turn his pawing reaching jab to a snapping one like Ike Quartey has
:coolclick: Agreed. He needs to also get his defense issues worked out.
As muddle headed & injured as Abraham was...he continued to crack the hell out of Miranda with his right hand.
Miranda's power is a great equalizer & while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Miranda needs to turn his pawing reaching jab to a snapping one like Ike Quartey has
:coolclick: Agreed. He needs to also get his defense issues worked out.
As muddle headed & injured as Abraham was...he continued to crack the hell out of Miranda with his right hand.
Miranda's power is a great equalizer & while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
I hope so, but he needs to fix that jab. He throws a better jab with his hands down then he does with them up....thats not a good thing
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Miranda needs to turn his pawing reaching jab to a snapping one like Ike Quartey has
:coolclick: Agreed. He needs to also get his defense issues worked out.
As muddle headed & injured as Abraham was...he continued to crack the hell out of Miranda with his right hand.
Miranda's power is a great equalizer & while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
I hope so, but he needs to fix that jab. He throws a better jab with his hands down then he does with them up....thats not a good thing
Very true...very true.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Miranda needs to turn his pawing reaching jab to a snapping one like Ike Quartey has
:coolclick: Agreed. He needs to also get his defense issues worked out.
As muddle headed & injured as Abraham was...he continued to crack the hell out of Miranda with his right hand.
Miranda's power is a great equalizer & while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
I hope so, but he needs to fix that jab. He throws a better jab with his hands down then he does with them up....thats not a good thing
Very true...very true.
If you give Miranda a better jab he's a dangerous fighter, even more dangerous then he is. He doesn't even need a slick defensive style, if he kept his hands up after he throws a jab(even from his waist) it would be a good thing.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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& while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
:coolclick: Very fair.
His trainer Jose Bonilla said the very two things he is working hard with Miranda during training is working on the jab and keeping the left hand up for better defense (also working on shoulder work to help the defense).
I think today he would KO Taylor, but to beat Winky he needs some polishing (and let Winky get a year or two older!)
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
Jose Bonilla should teach him to put his jab out there differently instead of pawing or reaching with it. What do you think Pantera Miranda needs to work on Pantera?
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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& while I am not impressed with the Miranda of now...I think the Miranda of a year or two away will be quite a finished product.
:coolclick: Very fair.
His trainer Jose Bonilla said the very two things he is working hard with Miranda during training is working on the jab and keeping the left hand up for better defense (also working on shoulder work to help the defense).
I think today he would KO Taylor, but to beat Winky he needs some polishing (and let Winky get a year or two older!)
Can't :coolclick: ya for another 24 for...but the love's there.
That being said...the 1 round knockout of Gibb's was nice...but I'm just not sure what it accomplished in the grand scheme's of improving Miranda. Honestly...I was more impressed with the Abraham performance.
Anywho...totally agree with you on him KOing Taylor.
Wright? I just don't see the possibilities like others do. Wright's a lot smarter than most people give him credit for being. He tasted Mosley, Quartey, & Taylor's power & then & only then did he trade with them. He aint stupid enough to stand there & let Miranda crack him. He did the very same thing against Trinidad.
In that fight, Wright didn't like what he felt...so he didn't trade...he master classed Tito...& I think in the end...he'd use the very "peek-a-boo" plan on Miranda that I have grown to love...yep...the very one that everyone hates Wright for.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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I think Miranda has the power to knock anyone out, including Winky , Winky's problem would be commanding the respect needed to keep a guy like Miranda at bay. I see Miranda being very dangerous for Wright because of Winky's lack of power. I think that Miranda would walk thru Wrights punches and have the power to break that peek-a-boo defense. especially over the course of a 12 Round bout . I would favor Miranda in that match.
Oh bwoy...here we go. ;D Lemmee take a deep breaf!
Totally disagree with you...100%...but I like your right up. :coolclick:
Lemmee counter that. ;D
Wright's been hit by some of the heaviest handed fighters out there on his way up, he's never been knocked out convincingly, & he's also matched skill for skill with some of the most respected fighters in the game. Granted Wright has been beaten three times...but only two were actually convincing. The loss to Vargas was not a convincing one & they traded some serious leather. Of late that has become a habit that Wright has adopted to gain more fans...less tactical & more contact.
Wright's got the chin to take that approach. Miranda, heavy handed as he is was not able to knock Abraham out...he argueably stopped Eastman...& in my opinion...Wright's got the better defense & equally better chin. It's never wise to right Wright off...many have...& many have been surprised.
As far as the respect aspect goes...watch the Taylor match again...then tune in the Mosley fights.
Wright is an intimidating figure that is cut out when you hit the middle rounds. Power & skill goes out the window once the other opponent realizes that neither is going to work against Winky.
I'm not saying Wright's a world beater...but he's a class up from all the rest...he's as much of a step up in class as Miranda is a step up in power.
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Miranda -vs.- Taylor = I would favor Taylor slightly over Miranda only because Taylor has the hammer ( power) to get that respect, and has the better overall boxing skills then Miranda . JMO
Although I like Taylor...he's proven one thing to me in the last two years...that he was better against lesser opposition...all of which had little to no confidence in themselves.
Miranda by shocking upset to everyone but me.
Taylor has a very weak defense if he has any at all...cliche as it is...his defense is his offence & on the backfoot...it's fwockin weak.
I no longer have faith in Taylor...no matter what he does.
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Enjoyed your write - up Wacko ! O0 Cool Click #2436
Agree or disagree...let's talk it out.
I see Miranda's awkwardness and power diluting the technically superior Wright. I see Edison getting those power shots in, and I see Wright having trouble stopping those shots from getting in its easier to be technical fighter and have success when you opponent is doing things correctly. I know that sounds strange... but its true. when your opponent is awkward its almost a disadvantage to be a technical fighter . That being said , I think Wright is a brilliant fighter , not taking anything away from him O0
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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I think Miranda has the power to knock anyone out, including Winky , Winky's problem would be commanding the respect needed to keep a guy like Miranda at bay. I see Miranda being very dangerous for Wright because of Winky's lack of power. I think that Miranda would walk thru Wrights punches and have the power to break that peek-a-boo defense. especially over the course of a 12 Round bout . I would favor Miranda in that match.
Oh bwoy...here we go. ;D Lemmee take a deep breaf!
Totally disagree with you...100%...but I like your right up. :coolclick:
Lemmee counter that. ;D
Wright's been hit by some of the heaviest handed fighters out there on his way up, he's never been knocked out convincingly, & he's also matched skill for skill with some of the most respected fighters in the game. Granted Wright has been beaten three times...but only two were actually convincing. The loss to Vargas was not a convincing one & they traded some serious leather. Of late that has become a habit that Wright has adopted to gain more fans...less tactical & more contact.
Wright's got the chin to take that approach. Miranda, heavy handed as he is was not able to knock Abraham out...he argueably stopped Eastman...& in my opinion...Wright's got the better defense & equally better chin. It's never wise to right Wright off...many have...& many have been surprised.
As far as the respect aspect goes...watch the Taylor match again...then tune in the Mosley fights.
Wright is an intimidating figure that is cut out when you hit the middle rounds. Power & skill goes out the window once the other opponent realizes that neither is going to work against Winky.
I'm not saying Wright's a world beater...but he's a class up from all the rest...he's as much of a step up in class as Miranda is a step up in power.
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Miranda -vs.- Taylor = I would favor Taylor slightly over Miranda only because Taylor has the hammer ( power) to get that respect, and has the better overall boxing skills then Miranda . JMO
Although I like Taylor...he's proven one thing to me in the last two years...that he was better against lesser opposition...all of which had little to no confidence in themselves.
Miranda by shocking upset to everyone but me.
Taylor has a very weak defense if he has any at all...cliche as it is...his defense is his offence & on the backfoot...it's fwockin weak.
I no longer have faith in Taylor...no matter what he does.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Enjoyed your write - up Wacko ! O0 Cool Click #2436
Agree or disagree...let's talk it out.
I see Miranda's awkwardness and power diluting the technically superior Wright. I see Edison getting those power shots in, and I see Wright having trouble stopping those shots from getting in its easier to be technical fighter and have success when you opponent is doing things correctly. I know that sounds strange... but its true. when your opponent is awkward its almost a disadvantage to be a technical fighter . That being said , I think Wright is a brilliant fighter , not taking anything away from him O0
You really think that Miranda is awkward?
Interesting. I just think that he's ruff around the edges...sloppy. Awkward, to me, is Soliman...& he's just all over the place.
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Jose Bonilla should teach him to put his jab out there differently instead of pawing or reaching with it.
The way he reaches with the jab is strange sometimes, he leans over his hip sideways sort of, not using his shoulders to turn into the jab and snap it. Sometimes though he'll throw a good strong jab to the body but its a dangerous punch for him because he keeps his chin ungaurded and leans his face in while throwing it.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken Round by Round of Edison Miranda vs Willie Gibbs
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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I think Miranda has the power to knock anyone out, including Winky , Winky's problem would be commanding the respect needed to keep a guy like Miranda at bay. I see Miranda being very dangerous for Wright because of Winky's lack of power. I think that Miranda would walk thru Wrights punches and have the power to break that peek-a-boo defense. especially over the course of a 12 Round bout . I would favor Miranda in that match.
Oh bwoy...here we go. ;D Lemmee take a deep breaf!
Totally disagree with you...100%...but I like your right up. :coolclick:
Lemmee counter that. ;D
Wright's been hit by some of the heaviest handed fighters out there on his way up, he's never been knocked out convincingly, & he's also matched skill for skill with some of the most respected fighters in the game. Granted Wright has been beaten three times...but only two were actually convincing. The loss to Vargas was not a convincing one & they traded some serious leather. Of late that has become a habit that Wright has adopted to gain more fans...less tactical & more contact.
Wright's got the chin to take that approach. Miranda, heavy handed as he is was not able to knock Abraham out...he argueably stopped Eastman...& in my opinion...Wright's got the better defense & equally better chin. It's never wise to right Wright off...many have...& many have been surprised.
As far as the respect aspect goes...watch the Taylor match again...then tune in the Mosley fights.
Wright is an intimidating figure that is cut out when you hit the middle rounds. Power & skill goes out the window once the other opponent realizes that neither is going to work against Winky.
I'm not saying Wright's a world beater...but he's a class up from all the rest...he's as much of a step up in class as Miranda is a step up in power.
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Miranda -vs.- Taylor = I would favor Taylor slightly over Miranda only because Taylor has the hammer ( power) to get that respect, and has the better overall boxing skills then Miranda . JMO
Although I like Taylor...he's proven one thing to me in the last two years...that he was better against lesser opposition...all of which had little to no confidence in themselves.
Miranda by shocking upset to everyone but me.
Taylor has a very weak defense if he has any at all...cliche as it is...his defense is his offence & on the backfoot...it's fwockin weak.
I no longer have faith in Taylor...no matter what he does.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Enjoyed your write - up Wacko ! O0 Cool Click #2436
Agree or disagree...let's talk it out.
I see Miranda's awkwardness and power diluting the technically superior Wright. I see Edison getting those power shots in, and I see Wright having trouble stopping those shots from getting in its easier to be technical fighter and have success when you opponent is doing things correctly. I know that sounds strange... but its true. when your opponent is awkward its almost a disadvantage to be a technical fighter . That being said , I think Wright is a brilliant fighter , not taking anything away from him O0
You really think that Miranda is awkward?
Interesting.
I just think that he's ruff around the edges...sloppy. Awkward, to me, is Soliman...& he's just all over the place.
True, however sloppiness is a form of awkwardness , especially when you can hit like Miranda can .. he also has very long type arms.. very strong physically .. just kind of awkward.. hehehe LMFAO ! ;) O0
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It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
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It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
I would have much respect for Taylor if I actually believed that he dethroned Hopkins legitamately. The second fight I thought that Taylor was a lot closer to a real win, the first fight...he got outlanded & he got outmustled & I don't see that he won the fight.
He lost to Wright...plain & simple.
The problem I have with Taylor is the let down factor. He's just become a bit of a let down as far as his overall ring generalship goes. He get's pressed way too much for my likings.
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
I would have much respect for Taylor if I actually believed that he dethroned Hopkins legitamately. The second fight I thought that Taylor was a lot closer to a real win, the first fight...he got outlanded & he got outmustled & I don't see that he won the fight.
He lost to Wright...plain & simple.
The problem I have with Taylor is the let down factor. He's just become a bit of a let down as far as his overall ring generalship goes. He get's pressed way too much for my likings.
Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
I would have much respect for Taylor if I actually believed that he dethroned Hopkins legitamately. The second fight I thought that Taylor was a lot closer to a real win, the first fight...he got outlanded & he got outmustled & I don't see that he won the fight.
He lost to Wright...plain & simple.
The problem I have with Taylor is the let down factor. He's just become a bit of a let down as far as his overall ring generalship goes. He get's pressed way too much for my likings.
Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Bernard Hopkins is a great fighter. I thought JT won those bouts also, but they were competitive good fights , Hopkins came up short, its no big deal . Hopkins moved up in weight at 40 years old and tapped danced all over Antonio Tarvers ass, that’s no easy task. I think you should give Hopkins some respect , He damn sure deserves it ! He has been a dominate figure in boxing for the last 10 years . O0
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Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Let me guess, you only saw the countdowns right?
Hopkins pretty much ripped Trinidad up for all 12 rounds. And have you seen the Echols fight? Hopkins is one of the GREATEST conditioned athletes in the sport, he isn't a 4 or 5 round fighter. In fact he could stop opponents late as well as early. He also ripped up Tarver for all 12 rounds. If anything Hopkins could outlast any opponent they put him in the ring with(exception of Roy Jones Jr). So where did that statement of the "4 or 5 round fighter got exposed for it" stuff come from ???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
I would have much respect for Taylor if I actually believed that he dethroned Hopkins legitamately. The second fight I thought that Taylor was a lot closer to a real win, the first fight...he got outlanded & he got outmustled & I don't see that he won the fight.
He lost to Wright...plain & simple.
The problem I have with Taylor is the let down factor. He's just become a bit of a let down as far as his overall ring generalship goes. He get's pressed way too much for my likings.
Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Why can't you understand english & collective criticism?
I like Taylor...just not what he has become...as I have explained to you time & time again...those days are done though.
If you think that Hopkins is such a dirty fighter...you need to watch the Tito fight One dimensional wonder fight massacre again. Hopkins retaliated in kind when Tito the one dimensional wonder hit him low & used his head.
Talk about bitter...youv'e been crying like a baby trying to come up with excuses for almost 5 years now...& then...just when you thought it was safe to go into the woods again...Wright humiliated your guy even worse.
Now hush up little girl. Adults are talking & I don't have time to help you understand the differences between a chump & a champion.
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Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Let me guess, you only saw the countdowns right?
Hopkins pretty much ripped Trinidad up for all 12 rounds. And have you seen the Echols fight? Hopkins is one of the GREATEST conditioned athletes in the sport, he isn't a 4 or 5 round fighter. In fact he could stop opponents late as well as early. He also ripped up Tarver for all 12 rounds. If anything Hopkins could outlast any opponent they put him in the ring with(exception of Roy Jones Jr). So where did that statement of the "4 or 5 round fighter got exposed for it" stuff come from ???
Not only did I see the actual fights but I have them in my possesion. Yes I did see the Echols fight in which Hopkins turned the guy around and punched him in the back of the head to take control of the fight. He's a dirty fighter and I'm not on his bandwagon cause I don't respect that. I wasn't impressed much with the Tarver fight either and why should I be!? He dominated because 1) Tarver was overhyped 2)Hopkins did his usual holding and punching in the back all night til his opponent wears down. As far as the fight with Tito goes, the only complaint I have is that he started out dirty but he clearly was the better and hungrier fighter that night. Don't forget that Hopkins atarted his career at 175 and Tito at 140 and DLH at around 130 and those are Hopkins biggest accomplishments and what made him.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
It seems that most here have a pretty low opinion of Jermain Taylor. I have to wonder if a lot of it has to do with resentment over him dethroning BHop. But, if you think about it, dismissing his talents actually does disservice to BHop.
I'm sure not KOing Ouma didn't help him...
I wanted BHop to win in the worst way both times, but I have to be honest and say that I think Bernard started too late in both fights to get the win. It was more than that, however. Even after BHop started to pour it on JT found a way to win a round here and there.
Then JT took on one of the toughest opponents he could've. I thought Winky won, but it was close and I definitely don't think Winky was robbed. Plus JT's, statement about fighting the whole 12 was very apropos.
Then the Ouma fight and JT didn't get his KO. It wasn't for lack of tryin though. Some of those uppercuts looked like they would've stopped most opponents. He did totally control the fight, however, and did not allow Ouma to fight his fight or get any sort of momentum going.
My point is that while many of the criticisms about him are not unfounded, he does find a way to win, or in the case of vs Winky, hold on to his title. To my mind, the asset that he has relied on against elite competition is his jab.
I actually think that If he had relaxed and used his stiff jab against Ouma more, he probably would've been able to set him up for a late round TKO.
Therefore, even though Miranda has that "big eraser" as Teddy Atlas calls it; I just think in all likelihood, JT would control him with the jab and use it to set up right hands of his own to win.
I would have much respect for Taylor if I actually believed that he dethroned Hopkins legitamately. The second fight I thought that Taylor was a lot closer to a real win, the first fight...he got outlanded & he got outmustled & I don't see that he won the fight.
He lost to Wright...plain & simple.
The problem I have with Taylor is the let down factor. He's just become a bit of a let down as far as his overall ring generalship goes. He get's pressed way too much for my likings.
Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Why can't you understand english & collective criticism?
I like Taylor...just not what he has become...as I have explained to you time & time again...those days are done though.
If you think that Hopkins is such a dirty fighter...you need to watch the Tito fight One dimensional wonder fight massacre again. Hopkins retaliated in kind when Tito the one dimensional wonder hit him low & used his head.
Talk about bitter...youv'e been crying like a baby trying to come up with excuses for almost 5 years now...& then...just when you thought it was safe to go into the woods again...Wright humiliated your guy even worse.
Now hush up little girl. Adults are talking & I don't have time to help you understand the differences between a chump & a champion.
Dry your own tears b4 you talk about someone crying. Hopkins is a fraud. I had nothing to say about Winky when he beat Tito and in fact developed a great respect for his fight game even though Tito's heart clearly was not 100% in it. You can't accept that the only true MWs that Hopkins fought that were any good both beat him. I have resorting to name calling over the web cause the truth hurts and I keep feeding you a heavy dose of it.
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Dry your own tears b4 you talk about someone crying. Hopkins is a fraud. I had nothing to say about Winky when he beat Tito and in fact developed a great respect for his fight game even though Tito's heart clearly was not 100% in it. You can't accept that the only true MWs that Hopkins fought that were any good both beat him. I have resorting to name calling over the web cause the truth hurts and I keep feeding you a heavy dose of it.
Heh heh heh.
Hillarious. You pretty much have no clue about the middleweight division or the accomplishments of Hopkins...so you really shouldn't comment on matters that you have no clue over.
The fact that Hopkins remained undefeated for a decade is something to marvel at alone...the fact that he ended & handled many up & coming fighters during that time is also another fact that has cemented him as one of the greats.
What's funny is that you think you keep feeding me a healthy dose of truth...but in the end...it's all uneducated bullshit that you wish to pass as the truth.
The fact that you think Tito's heart wasn't in it...now that makes me really laugh...his heart was surely in beating Mayorga...but Wright, like Hopkins was there to win & win they did. My heart wouldn't be in a fight that I was getting my ass handed to me either. :lickish:
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Let me guess, you only saw the countdowns right?
Hopkins pretty much ripped Trinidad up for all 12 rounds. And have you seen the Echols fight? Hopkins is one of the GREATEST conditioned athletes in the sport, he isn't a 4 or 5 round fighter. In fact he could stop opponents late as well as early. He also ripped up Tarver for all 12 rounds. If anything Hopkins could outlast any opponent they put him in the ring with(exception of Roy Jones Jr). So where did that statement of the "4 or 5 round fighter got exposed for it" stuff come from ???
Not only did I see the actual fights but I have them in my possesion. Yes I did see the Echols fight in which Hopkins turned the guy around and punched him in the back of the head to take control of the fight. He's a dirty fighter and I'm not on his bandwagon cause I don't respect that.
Oh please, I could call Tito a dirty fighter fow low blowing Ramon Campos whenever he was in trouble. And by the way who started it? Echols hit him on the break first and then Hopkins retaliated later on. How about giving Hopkins credit for fighting with a dislocated shoulder?
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Let me guess, you only saw the countdowns right?
Hopkins pretty much ripped Trinidad up for all 12 rounds. And have you seen the Echols fight? Hopkins is one of the GREATEST conditioned athletes in the sport, he isn't a 4 or 5 round fighter. In fact he could stop opponents late as well as early. He also ripped up Tarver for all 12 rounds. If anything Hopkins could outlast any opponent they put him in the ring with(exception of Roy Jones Jr). So where did that statement of the "4 or 5 round fighter got exposed for it" stuff come from ???
Not only did I see the actual fights but I have them in my possesion. Yes I did see the Echols fight in which Hopkins turned the guy around and punched him in the back of the head to take control of the fight. He's a dirty fighter and I'm not on his bandwagon cause I don't respect that.
Oh please, I could call Tito a dirty fighter fow low blowing Ramon Campos whenever he was in trouble. And by the way who started it? Echols hit him on the break first and then Hopkins retaliated later on. How about giving Hopkins credit for fighting with a dislocated shoulder?
Well spoken. :appl:
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Dry your own tears b4 you talk about someone crying. Hopkins is a fraud. I had nothing to say about Winky when he beat Tito and in fact developed a great respect for his fight game even though Tito's heart clearly was not 100% in it. You can't accept that the only true MWs that Hopkins fought that were any good both beat him. I have resorting to name calling over the web cause the truth hurts and I keep feeding you a heavy dose of it.
Heh heh heh.
Hillarious. You pretty much have no clue about the middleweight division or the accomplishments of Hopkins...so you really shouldn't comment on matters that you have no clue over.
The fact that Hopkins remained undefeated for a decade is something to marvel at alone...the fact that he ended & handled many up & coming fighters during that time is also another fact that has cemented him as one of the greats.
What's funny is that you think you keep feeding me a healthy dose of truth...but in the end...it's all uneducated bullshit that you wish to pass as the truth.
The fact that you think Tito's heart wasn't in it...now that makes me really laugh...his heart was surely in beating Mayorga...but Wright, like Hopkins was there to win & win they did. My heart wouldn't be in a fight that I was getting my ass handed to me either. :lickish:
Wacko you come to a point in a thread like the one BX wrote which I highlighted above your post Bx says" Hopkins is a fraud " ., Now for me its just hard to read any further than that . its obvious BX is just on a haters rampage . We all know Hopkins was one of the most under appreciated fighters of the last decade, only now getting the recognition which he has deserved for years.
Personally I am not a huge Hopkins fan, only because his style kind of bores me at times , but that being said he is very effective and one of the all time great Middleweights, I think for someone to try and dispute that is ignorance , A fan can hate him all he wants, A fan can like him all he wants , but nobody can take anything away from the man. He came and he conquered, I think that about sums it up .
-peace O0
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Why can't you accept that Hopkins is 4 or 5 round fighter and got exposed for it. He fought dirty, Jt did it right back and he didn't like it so he went on retreat until he thought JT was tired. Stop being so bitter and give Jt some respect.
Let me guess, you only saw the countdowns right?
Hopkins pretty much ripped Trinidad up for all 12 rounds. And have you seen the Echols fight? Hopkins is one of the GREATEST conditioned athletes in the sport, he isn't a 4 or 5 round fighter. In fact he could stop opponents late as well as early. He also ripped up Tarver for all 12 rounds. If anything Hopkins could outlast any opponent they put him in the ring with(exception of Roy Jones Jr). So where did that statement of the "4 or 5 round fighter got exposed for it" stuff come from ???
Not only did I see the actual fights but I have them in my possesion. Yes I did see the Echols fight in which Hopkins turned the guy around and punched him in the back of the head to take control of the fight. He's a dirty fighter and I'm not on his bandwagon cause I don't respect that.
Oh please, I could call Tito a dirty fighter fow low blowing Ramon Campos whenever he was in trouble. And by the way who started it? Echols hit him on the break first and then Hopkins retaliated later on. How about giving Hopkins credit for fighting with a dislocated shoulder?
Well spoken. :appl:
Thanks :appl:
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Time to wash the sticky off of this thread & let the DRBR fall by the wayside as the ole' Christmas holiday is only a few short days away.
Merry Christmas ladies & a Happy Up & Coming New Years. ;D
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OK Wacko lovers....take it easy. Wacko goes on every thread and tells you guys, "CC to everyone on the thread" and we all know that you can only do it once a day. Most fools in here don't realize it and CC him like crazy and that's all he cares about is kissing up to people and stats on this site. Me, I care about boxing and only the truth matters. I don't kiss up and don't give a damn about being the guy with the most posts or any of that. The only thing that matters is posting when I have something to say.
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OK Wacko lovers....take it easy. Wacko goes on every thread and tells you guys, "CC to everyone on the thread" and we all know that you can only do it once a day. Most fools in here don't realize it and CC him like crazy and that's all he cares about is kissing up to people and stats on this site. Me, I care about boxing and only the truth matters. I don't kiss up and don't give a damn about being the guy with the most posts or any of that. The only thing that matters is posting when I have something to say.
So then what are you saying ???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
OK Wacko lovers....take it easy. Wacko goes on every thread and tells you guys, "CC to everyone on the thread" and we all know that you can only do it once a day. Most fools in here don't realize it and CC him like crazy and that's all he cares about is kissing up to people and stats on this site. Me, I care about boxing and only the truth matters. I don't kiss up and don't give a damn about being the guy with the most posts or any of that. The only thing that matters is posting when I have something to say.
So then what are you saying ???
I didn't say anything that needs decoding. My message is clear and I don't need a fanclub to get it through.
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OK Wacko lovers....take it easy. Wacko goes on every thread and tells you guys, "CC to everyone on the thread" and we all know that you can only do it once a day. Most fools in here don't realize it and CC him like crazy and that's all he cares about is kissing up to people and stats on this site. Me, I care about boxing and only the truth matters. I don't kiss up and don't give a damn about being the guy with the most posts or any of that. The only thing that matters is posting when I have something to say.
Heh heh heh.
You kill me. If someone doesn't agree with you & then argues with you...you then turn around & come up with bullshit posts like the above?
Hillarious.
Trust me...everyone realizes that the only time you have something to say is when your'e trying to start crap.
Cool clicks & sad clicks are they to pass along sentiment & agreement or disagreement...not to kiss ass & make thread. There's a 24 hour rule in effect for karma...I always follow up...but you don't have to worry about that...because I seriously doubt that you'll have to sweat any clicks from me...then again...you being the "big boy" that you are...it probably doesn't matter.
If you care about boxing & the truth...you'd suck it up & recognize that Hopkins beat Tito on skills & points. Taylor was outlanded by Hopkins in the first fight & got pushed around in the last four rounds of the fight...Taylor won the second fight...but that's that.
I can admit when my guy loses. You? You chump up & start crying over the facts.
Don't be a baby just because your'e wrong...or do be a baby...whatever floats your little boat.
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OK Wacko lovers....take it easy. Wacko goes on every thread and tells you guys, "CC to everyone on the thread" and we all know that you can only do it once a day. Most fools in here don't realize it and CC him like crazy and that's all he cares about is kissing up to people and stats on this site. Me, I care about boxing and only the truth matters. I don't kiss up and don't give a damn about being the guy with the most posts or any of that. The only thing that matters is posting when I have something to say.
Why do you have to be such an abrasive Trouble maker???? CC's and SC's are ways of passing sentiments on how you feel about a posters opinion or effort...They mean NOTHING in the big picture but they do tell a story about how someone is recieved for what they write and convey to fellow forum members...
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Most fools in here don't realize it
Who are you calling a fool you prick..... Heres a suggestion SHUT UP and mind your own business!!!!!!! Dont worry about whos clicking who around here.Kissing up??? What kind of BS is that?? OH SO!! Now I cant appreciate a good convo with a fellow member and appreciate there personality???
I detect some hardcore jealousy from you and notice how you always take shots at Wacko.... Grow up and let it go...
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LOL. Yeah Wacko gives cool clicks out like candy but look what he gives to the forum, he has a legion of people who read his round by rounds even if they are watching the fight themselves. Don't think it has much to do with cool clicks. Come on man, that has no room on the forum. If you have a problem with someone, take it to messages or keep it to yourself. No reason to bring that stuff here. Something that sets this forum apart from others is that every other thread doesn't go into name calling. Wouldn't want to see that balance upset.
Can I have a cool click Wacko? ;D
