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anyone who wants to see ruddocks power check this out you may have a bit more respect for tyson cos at the time ruddock was being ducked by just about everyone. Holyfield and bowe apparently took other fights when ruddock team tried to push for one and tyson took up the challenge when ruddock was at his best and when he had all the hype so he deserves respect for stepping up the the plate.
the ruddock who fought lewis and morrison etc... was a shadow of himself, he would of destroyed morrison and given lewis much more trouble. anyways check this out -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNo8nXD3xoc
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Originally Posted by tubbc
anyone who wants to see ruddocks power check this out you may have a bit more respect for tyson cos at the time ruddock was being ducked by just about everyone. Holyfield and bowe apparently took other fights when ruddock team tried to push for one and tyson took up the challenge when ruddock was at his best and when he had all the hype so he deserves respect for stepping up the the plate.
the ruddock who fought lewis and morrison etc... was a shadow of himself, he would of destroyed morrison and given lewis much more trouble. anyways check this out -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNo8nXD3xoc
mate ive seen that and bonecrusher vs ruddock both of his fights with tyson and his fights with lewis and morrison and i even got sparring footage of him and larry holmes im not saying he didnt have good power he had very good power but he had lazy offense and no headmovement that was the problem and he never used a jab and he should of because he had long reach and was big fella
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Originally Posted by tubbc
anyone who wants to see ruddocks power check this out you may have a bit more respect for tyson cos at the time ruddock was being ducked by just about everyone. Holyfield and bowe apparently took other fights when ruddock team tried to push for one and tyson took up the challenge when ruddock was at his best and when he had all the hype so he deserves respect for stepping up the the plate.
the ruddock who fought lewis and morrison etc... was a shadow of himself, he would of destroyed morrison and given lewis much more trouble. anyways check this out -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNo8nXD3xoc
mate ive seen that and bonecrusher vs ruddock both of his fights with tyson and his fights with lewis and morrison and i even got sparring footage of him and larry holmes im not saying he didnt have good power he had very good power but he had lazy offense and no headmovement that was the problem and he never used a jab and he should of because he had long reach and was big fella
i agree he should of used his jab more and would of been a great fighter had he used it more, funny though in his early fights he did use it more and right hands. on his fights with lewis and morrison he was past it or sliding when he fought both. IMHO he was done after thoughs 19 round wars with tyson which he absorbed alot of punishment plus he earned big big money. I never take the ruddock - lewis or morrison fights as true ruddock cos it were'nt. he should'nt of even been stopped v morrison as ruddock has always been hurt like that and comeback cos he was strating to give morrison a beating and that was an older, slower heavier ruddock. prime ruddock 3-5 rounds tops ko's morrison and gives lewis a much harder fight.
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I dont know if they story of Tyson being scared of Foreman is true or not.I have read it on here before.
But if they had fought in the early 90's I think Tyson would have given George a bad beating.
Foreman's head did not move a bit and would be an easy target for Tysons fast hands.Late stoppage win or points for Tyson.
By the way I am a big fan of Foreman and dont rate Tyson as highly as most on this site but thats the way I would see this fight going.
Good call mate, it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel for a young tyson. See what ron lyle did to george then add 20% more punching power/much better combos + speed.
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Frazier to this day thinks Foreman would have "whupped" Tyson.
I'd have to agree. Foreman by KO. And "if Tyson fought smart"
... yo ... Tyson don't fight smart. heh
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Frazier to this day thinks Foreman would have "whupped" Tyson.
I'd have to agree. Foreman by KO. And "if Tyson fought smart"
... yo ... Tyson don't fight smart. heh
;D
Foreman in his prime would beat Mike I think yeah, Foreman in the year 1987 would get put to sleep. Look at the grief moorer gave george then multiply it by 100.... :'(
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Frazier to this day thinks Foreman would have "whupped" Tyson.
I'd have to agree. Foreman by KO. And "if Tyson fought smart"
... yo ... Tyson don't fight smart. heh
;D
Foreman in his prime would beat Mike I think yeah, Foreman in the year 1987 would get put to sleep. Look at the grief moorer gave george then multiply it by 100.... :'(
Moorer is a boxer-puncher who spent most of the fight avoiding the Foreman Right and using the sweet science of boxing and defense. Also Foreman knocked the lights out of Moorer. Old Foreman could take it and dish it out 10 fold back. No one had heavier punches than Foreman. Tyson was explosive, but not heavy in punches. George would weather the storm as he always has in the early rounds, and in the later rounds he would dish it right back to the offensive minded Tyson, and yes Tyson's defense was integrated into his offense not the other way around... Tyson was always offensive minded.
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mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
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mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
earnie shavers george foreman and maybe marciano not sure
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mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
I didn't say Tyson wasn't powerful, just that he and Foreman's power were different.
Let me explain:
Now here's where people don't know much about boxing. Power is different for just about every boxer.
Foreman was overall the most powerful boxer ever to enter the ring. Tyson was the most explosive fighter to enter the ring. Explosiveness relies on speed, while Foreman's power relied on his god given power. The fact that Tyson could no longer KO opponents early in his late career was because he lost the speed of his youth, therefore losing his explosive power, WHILE Foreman couldn't KO them early either, but he could still end it before the 12th with quality opposition even when he was Forty-Five years old.
Sad click me or whatever, but if you listen to me, you'll learn. I didn't learn this myself either.
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Originally Posted by TheCruelBallet
mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
I didn't say Tyson wasn't powerful, just that he and Foreman's power were different. 
Let me explain:
Now here's where people don't know much about boxing.  Power is different for just about every boxer.
Foreman was overall the most powerful boxer ever to enter the ring.  Tyson was the most explosive fighter to enter the ring.  Explosiveness relies on speed, while Foreman's power relied on his god given power.  The fact that Tyson could no longer KO opponents early in his late career was because he lost the speed of his youth, therefore losing his explosive power, WHILE Foreman couldn't KO them early either, but he could still end it before the 12th with quality opposition even when he was Forty-Five years old.
Sad click me or whatever, but if you listen to me, you'll learn.  I didn't learn this myself either.
yea true well said tyson had good technique and explosive speed which made his punches powerful and like you said foreman didnt have that he relied on his power and i wont give you sad click but ill give you cool click :)
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by TheCruelBallet
mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
I didn't say Tyson wasn't powerful, just that he and Foreman's power were different.
Let me explain:
Now here's where people don't know much about boxing. Power is different for just about every boxer.
Foreman was overall the most powerful boxer ever to enter the ring. Tyson was the most explosive fighter to enter the ring. Explosiveness relies on speed, while Foreman's power relied on his god given power. The fact that Tyson could no longer KO opponents early in his late career was because he lost the speed of his youth, therefore losing his explosive power, WHILE Foreman couldn't KO them early either, but he could still end it before the 12th with quality opposition even when he was Forty-Five years old.
Sad click me or whatever, but if you listen to me, you'll learn. I didn't learn this myself either.
yea true well said tyson had good technique and explosive speed which made his punches powerful and like you said foreman didnt have that he relied on his power and i wont give you sad click but ill give you cool click :)
Thanks man. Yeah, it's good that you added technique. Every time I imagine a Tyson Uppercut I think of the most natural and beautifully executed uppercut ever to happen inside the ring. cc back.
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did tyson & foreman ever meet in the early 1990's, did tyson come face 2 face 2 him 2 ever give him a reason 2 maybe be worried about fighting him?
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REGARDING RUDDOCK
If i remember correctly when The Ring magazine ran a poll of experts/Writers & Boxers based on who would come out on top between Ruddock/ewis/Bowe/Holyfield (this being after the Ruddock/Tyson fights) most selected Holyfield or Ruddock! So Ruddock was still classed as a force even after Tyson had got hold of him
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Originally Posted by TheCruelBallet
mate how can you say Tyson doesnt punch hard? he is in the top 3 heavys of all time for his one punch take out, you try to name 3 heavyweights that punched harder than tyson..
I didn't say Tyson wasn't powerful, just that he and Foreman's power were different.
Let me explain:
Now here's where people don't know much about boxing. Power is different for just about every boxer.
Foreman was overall the most powerful boxer ever to enter the ring. Tyson was the most explosive fighter to enter the ring. Explosiveness relies on speed, while Foreman's power relied on his god given power. The fact that Tyson could no longer KO opponents early in his late career was because he lost the speed of his youth, therefore losing his explosive power, WHILE Foreman couldn't KO them early either, but he could still end it before the 12th with quality opposition even when he was Forty-Five years old.
Sad click me or whatever, but if you listen to me, you'll learn. I didn't learn this myself either.
what makes you such an expert?..."Now here's where people don't know much about boxing...etc",could you be any more condescending??
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I didn't learn this myself either THIS IS THE GET OUT CLAUSE!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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All depends what type of fight Foreman fights. If he fought like he did against Ali, Tyson would have broken him down and out within 5 rounds. If Foreman was accurate with his punches and didn't forget his defence, then i'd say he had a good chance of ko'ing Tyson. Foreman fought a terrible fight against Ali,that is why he lost. He showed Ali no respect, had no accuracy with his punches and forgot his defence altogether. Look at Foreman's other fights, he fought terrible against Ali. And no it wasn't because Ali made him look bad. George made himself look bad. He had that fight but he shot himself in the foot.
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It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
Alright man, this is getting ridiculous now.
Ducking a Duva fighter? heheh Then Tyson fights Duva's best, which was Holyfield. Tyson didn't duck Holy, or Duva's stock thats for sure.
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
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Just as I stated in my posts in the other thread, I do not see Tyson beating Foreman during his prime or otherwise. I gave statistics to support my claim. Now comes this article which I think was well written and although hearsay may actually be true. The best proof to prove some truth to the article was that Foreman called out Tyson a number of times (I am old enough to remember being 43 years old). Why did the fight not happen? Foreman was almost drooling to have the chance to fight Tyson and prove he was the bigger man.
I do not agree about Big George lack of defense. If he got hit as many times people claim, he would have had the same speech condition as most boxer's his age. Yet you see and hear him today. He talks and speaks his mind as if he only fought once in his career rather than 80+. He probably had the best defense of all (what ever it is..a slight movement of the head..being faster than a lot of people giving credit for to avoid the heavy punches). I mean look at the man today compared to Tyson. He was and still is a better physical and mental specimen than Tyson ever was.
I compare Tyson to Frazier. I again do not agree that Frazier was slower than Tyson. He gave Ali a beating for christ's sake. Ali's defense was second to none. I totally agree with Cus D'amatos purported statement that Tyson would have difficulty fighting Big George.
I see the fight lasting all of three rounds with a big uppercut and right hook from Foreman to end the bout.
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
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tyson morrison fight that would of been awesome ;D that would defo of been the biggest fight of all time!
when would of this been if could of been made what year?
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I hadn't even bothered to read this thread the title seemed so ridiculous.
Reality check says he was there and the guy said that tyson said that.
Maybe Reality check needs a reality check??
I wasn't there. And don't mean to diss a guy who was and shares his experiance on the forum. BUT, I don't think a prime tyson was afraid of anything,much less an old slow george foreman.
But hey,I could be wrong. After all Tyson always was a nut.
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i could understand tyson being scared of a beat like foreman he prob knew he could not knock him out that would be a prob 4 tyson
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tyson morrison fight that would of been awesome ;D that would defo of been the biggest fight of all time!
when would of this been if could of been made what year?
It would have been tough since Tyson was away for what would have been Morrison's "prime"...but in 1990/1991(Feb) Morrison had back to back win against Tillis and Pinklon Thomas and Tommy's name was everywhere...If it would have been an easy fight Tyson could have collected a monster paycheck before going away, instead Mike made the VERY ordinary Razor Rudduck look like a contender...twice.
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Drago
tyson morrison fight that would of been awesome ;D that would defo of been the biggest fight of all time!
when would of this been if could of been made what year?
It would have been tough since Tyson was away for what would have been Morrison's "prime"...but in 1990/1991(Feb) Morrison had back to back win against Tillis and Pinklon Thomas and Tommy's name was everywhere...If it would have been an easy fight Tyson could have collected a monster paycheck before going away, instead Mike made the VERY ordinary Razor Rudduck look like a contender...twice.
CHEERS FELLA ;D
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
YEAH BUT BET ROY JONES WOULD OF FOUGHT THE GUY FROM THE GAS STATION OR THE POSTMAN OR LOCAL ROADSWEEPER HA HA ;D
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George would have got to him in 3 or 4
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by The Promoter
It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
Sorry to become a dose of reality but just one peek at boxrec will show you otherwise...Tyson was in jail when Morrison beat Foreman(1993) and when Mike did get out he was busy with guys like McNeeley, Mathis, Norris,Seldon and of course Evander...The name of Morrison might have been used for the dramatic effect of your tv show but nothing was ever signed, people were "talking" Tyson/Morrison back in 1991!
Not to get off subject, the Tyson camp knew which fighters to avoid because styles do make fghts and "come forward" pressure fighters that were larger than mike were specifically avoided...
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It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
Sorry to become a dose of reality but just one peek at boxrec will show you otherwise...Tyson was in jail when Morrison beat Foreman(1993) and when Mike did get out he was busy with guys like McNeeley, Mathis, Norris,Seldon and of course Evander...The name of Morrison might have been used for the dramatic effect of your tv show but nothing was ever signed, people were "talking" Tyson/Morrison back in 1991!
Not to get off subject, the Tyson camp knew which fighters to avoid because styles do make fghts and "come forward" pressure fighters that were larger than mike were specifically avoided...
Whatever. I know what it said on the show, I've seen the episode twice. If you had ever seen the show you would know its a pretty good source. So stuff the condescending attitutde buddy. ;)
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It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
Sorry to become a dose of reality but just one peek at boxrec will show you otherwise...Tyson was in jail when Morrison beat Foreman(1993) and when Mike did get out he was busy with guys like McNeeley, Mathis, Norris,Seldon and of course Evander...The name of Morrison might have been used for the dramatic effect of your tv show but nothing was ever signed, people were "talking" Tyson/Morrison back in 1991!
Not to get off subject, the Tyson camp knew which fighters to avoid because styles do make fghts and "come forward" pressure fighters that were larger than mike were specifically avoided...
Whatever. I know what it said on the show, I've seen the episode twice. If you had ever seen the show you would know its a pretty good source. So stuff the condescending attitutde buddy. ;)
I don't mean to be condescending ... but there was never any fight "set" it was just talk with nothing ever signed...
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It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fought anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
Sorry to become a dose of reality but just one peek at boxrec will show you otherwise...Tyson was in jail when Morrison beat Foreman(1993) and when Mike did get out he was busy with guys like McNeeley, Mathis, Norris,Seldon and of course Evander...The name of Morrison might have been used for the dramatic effect of your tv show but nothing was ever signed, people were "talking" Tyson/Morrison back in 1991!
Not to get off subject, the Tyson camp knew which fighters to avoid because styles do make fghts and "come forward" pressure fighters that were larger than mike were specifically avoided...
Whatever. I know what it said on the show, I've seen the episode twice. If you had ever seen the show you would know its a pretty good source. So stuff the condescending attitutde buddy. ;)
I don't mean to be condescending ... but there was never any fight "set" it was just talk with nothing ever signed...
My source is Tommy Morrison himself, in an interview based on a "Where are then now?" article.
I can't find the link, but Tommy talked about it at length.
But dude, your source is YOUR BELIEF that Tyson wouldn't fight anybody "who fought back."
Pretty stupid source. ;)
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It sounds cheesy but Mike "was" the epitome of a fighter.
He wanted to prove himself and had such a high self belief in his ability he had no problem running through all challengers wiping out a division.
No one else has done so since.
Even after Douglas he had no problems getting in with the divisions new threat Rudduck.
People want to see Mike again or a new Mike but its not just Mike or his exciting style they miss, its the fact that he fought often and everyone, all title holders and all challengers, who does that now, the division is boring because people are so afraid to have a loss on their record but Briggs, Maskaev and Klitschko are proof that there is life in a career after a loss.
Who cares if someone is undefeated as long as good entertaining fights are made
Rudduck was a SLUGGER and not a BOXER
Now I know Foreman was a slugger but in actuality he was
THE SLUGGER and if anyone EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING wanted to stand toe to toe with him they were dead in the water!!!
Foreman ducked one guy and really can't shame him for that because that guy was Earnie "The Acorn" Shavers and he mainly dodged him in his comeback.
Mike Tyson was good he just wasn't as good as George old or not
Your wrong! Ruddock wasn't just a SLUGGER he was a decent boxer with a good jab, look at his early fights setting up that hybrid left-hook-uppercut with a real good jab, he was boxing Bone crusher Smith's ears off, I'm not saying he was Willie Pep or Ray Robinson, but he wasn't some wild swinging slugger. His brutal K.O. of Michael Dokes was scary, Dokes looked like he was dead, slumped against the ropes motionless. Ruddock later in his career tried to depend on his power, rather than set the pace with his jab and counter punch. As for Foreman ducking Shavers in his comeback, you better get your facts straight, Shavers retired after 1983, Foreman didn't comeback until 1987, Shavers made a brief comeback in 1995( I guess he saw all the sucess and money Foreman was having and decided to give it a try) He won a decision over a nobody then got sparked in the 1st rd by Brian Yates who was knocked out by just about everyone he fought. So that pretty much tells you how a Foreman -Shavers fight would have ended. Foreman would have destroyed Shavers in there primes. I gotta school you too Lyle? And yes I think Tyson ducked Foreman in the early ninties, they were even selling TYSON VS FORMAN T-shirts on Broad an Snyder in South Philly the summer of 1990, there was way too much money to be made by them fighting each other for it not to come off,....so Tyson had to be SCARED, it just don't make any sense for the fight not to happen.
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It sounds cheesy but Mike "was" the epitome of a fighter.
He wanted to prove himself and had such a high self belief in his ability he had no problem running through all challengers wiping out a division.
No one else has done so since.
Even after Douglas he had no problems getting in with the divisions new threat Rudduck.
People want to see Mike again or a new Mike but its not just Mike or his exciting style they miss, its the fact that he fought often and everyone, all title holders and all challengers, who does that now, the division is boring because people are so afraid to have a loss on their record but Briggs, Maskaev and Klitschko are proof that there is life in a career after a loss.
Who cares if someone is undefeated as long as good entertaining fights are made
Rudduck was a SLUGGER and not a BOXER
Now I know Foreman was a slugger but in actuality he was
THE SLUGGER and if anyone EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING wanted to stand toe to toe with him they were dead in the water!!!
Foreman ducked one guy and really can't shame him for that because that guy was Earnie "The Acorn" Shavers and he mainly dodged him in his comeback.
Mike Tyson was good he just wasn't as good as George old or not
Your wrong! Ruddock wasn't just a SLUGGER he was a decent boxer with a good jab, look at his early fights setting up that hybrid left-hook-uppercut with a real good jab, he was boxing Bone crusher Smith's ear off, I'm not saying he was Willie Pep or Ray Robinson, but he wasn't some wild swinging slugger. His brutal K.O. of Michael Dokes was scary, Dokes looked like he was dead, slumped against the ropes motionless. Ruddock later in his career tried to depend on his power, rather than set the pace with his jab and counter punch. As for Foreman ducking Shavers in his comeback, you better get your facts straight, Shavers retired after 1983, Foreman didn't comeback until 1987, Shavers made a brief comeback in 1995( I guess he saw all the sucess and money Foreman was having and decided to try a comeback also) He won a decision over a nobody then got sparked in the 1st rd by Brian Yates who was knocked out by just about everyone he fought. So that pretty much tells you how a Foreman -Shavers fight would have ended. Foreman would have destroyed Shavers in there primes. I gotta school you too Lyle? And yes I think Tyson ducked Foreman in the early ninties, they were even selling TYSON VS FORMAN T-shirts on Broad an Snyder in South Philly the summer of 1990, there was way too much money to be made by them fighting each other for it not to come off,....so Tyson had to be SCARED, it just don't make any sense for the fight not to come off.
I want one of those T-shirts!!!! ;)
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It sounds cheesy but Mike "was" the epitome of a fighter.
He wanted to prove himself and had such a high self belief in his ability he had no problem running through all challengers wiping out a division.
No one else has done so since.
Even after Douglas he had no problems getting in with the divisions new threat Rudduck.
People want to see Mike again or a new Mike but its not just Mike or his exciting style they miss, its the fact that he fought often and everyone, all title holders and all challengers, who does that now, the division is boring because people are so afraid to have a loss on their record but Briggs, Maskaev and Klitschko are proof that there is life in a career after a loss.
Who cares if someone is undefeated as long as good entertaining fights are made
Rudduck was a SLUGGER and not a BOXER
Now I know Foreman was a slugger but in actuality he was
THE SLUGGER and if anyone EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING wanted to stand toe to toe with him they were dead in the water!!!
Foreman ducked one guy and really can't shame him for that because that guy was Earnie "The Acorn" Shavers and he mainly dodged him in his comeback.
Mike Tyson was good he just wasn't as good as George old or not
Your wrong! Ruddock wasn't just a SLUGGER he was a decent boxer with a good jab, look at his early fights setting up that hybrid left-hook-uppercut with a real good jab, he was boxing Bone crusher Smith's ear off, I'm not saying he was Willie Pep or Ray Robinson, but he wasn't some wild swinging slugger. His brutal K.O. of Michael Dokes was scary, Dokes looked like he was dead, slumped against the ropes motionless. Ruddock later in his career tried to depend on his power, rather than set the pace with his jab and counter punch. As for Foreman ducking Shavers in his comeback, you better get your facts straight, Shavers retired after 1983, Foreman didn't comeback until 1987, Shavers made a brief comeback in 1995( I guess he saw all the sucess and money Foreman was having and decided to try a comeback also) He won a decision over a nobody then got sparked in the 1st rd by Brian Yates who was knocked out by just about everyone he fought. So that pretty much tells you how a Foreman -Shavers fight would have ended. Foreman would have destroyed Shavers in there primes. I gotta school you too Lyle? And yes I think Tyson ducked Foreman in the early ninties, they were even selling TYSON VS FORMAN T-shirts on Broad an Snyder in South Philly the summer of 1990, there was way too much money to be made by them fighting each other for it not to come off,....so Tyson had to be SCARED, it just don't make any sense for the fight not to come off.
I want one of those T-shirts!!!! ;)
Hulk I still have mine in storage some where
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It was old news that Tyson wouldn't fight Foreman with good reason...but there others as well, Morrison, Mercer, Tua all big money fights that Tyson did NOT want...Styles make fights and anyone who knows anything about Cus D'Amato fighters understands that a D'Amato fighter does NOT fight going backwards and Tyson would have never fou
ght anyone who would force him backwards...remember Patterson/Liston? Patterson was another one of Cus' fighters and he learned his lesson...Also, notice how Tyson never fought a Lou Duva trained fighter? (well Holyfield, but that was well after Lou was gone same with Golota)...Lou knew exactly how to beat Tyson and that's why Duva was calling Mike out like crazy...
I don't think he wanted any of Tua, maybe Mercer either, but MORRISON?! Now, Tommy was a gutsy guy with pop, but chinny too. Mike woulda eaten him alive.
Not saying Morrison beats Tyson, but the style was dangerous and the Tyson camp knew it...Put it this way, why would Mike Tyson turn down the first $100 million dollar purse to fight Morrison if it would have been easy?...Remeber the Morrison camp was calling for a fight and Mike "dismissed" them, why? to face Buster Douglas?!?!?
Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.
But Morrison got HIV. NOT JOKING!
You guys are going to crazy with this "TYSON DUCKED!" stuff.
Tyson also ducked the guy who worked at the gas station too. heh
"Tyson and Morrison were set to fight dude.", lol...where did you get this information??? The Rocky website? Tyson was too busy fighting McNeeley,Mathis Bruno and Seldon, to grab his "titles"...If I recall correctly when Morrison's name came up Mike dismissed him as "fragile" and chose to sign a fight with Bruno...Correct me if I'm wrong but nothing to my knowledge was ever signed between the Tyson and Morrison camps...IMO, after prison the Tyson people were not going to fight anyone they thought was going to fight back if they could help it...
They were set to fight. It said so after the replay of Morrison vs Foreman on "Legends of the Ring", hosted by Michal Buffer on the Vs. Network. But the whole AIDS thing got in the way.
Sorry to become a dose of reality but just one peek at boxrec will show you otherwise...Tyson was in jail when Morrison beat Foreman(1993) and when Mike did get out he was busy with guys like McNeeley, Mathis, Norris,Seldon and of course Evander...The name of Morrison might have been used for the dramatic effect of your tv show but nothing was ever signed, people were "talking" Tyson/Morrison back in 1991!
Not to get off subject, the Tyson camp knew which fighters to avoid because styles do make fghts and "come forward" pressure fighters that were larger than mike were specifically avoided...
Whatever. I know what it said on the show, I've seen the episode twice. If you had ever seen the show you would know its a pretty good source. So stuff the condescending attitutde buddy. ;)
I don't mean to be condescending ... but there was never any fight "set" it was just talk with nothing ever signed...
My source is Tommy Morrison himself, in an interview based on a "Where are then now?" article.
I can't find the link, but Tommy talked about it at length.
But dude, your source is YOUR BELIEF that Tyson wouldn't fight anybody "who fought back."
Pretty stupid source. ;)
Well it's pretty obvious you have never read anything I've posted on the subject...Cus D'Amato fighters can only fight one way and that coming forward, it's a fact....When pushed backward they don't even through punches because all of the leverage is derived from moving forward(they throw off of their lead leg)...Watch early Tyson and Patterson fights and they bare this point out...now look at the loses of both fighters(Tyson and Patterson) and you will see it's true...
Since styles make fights it becomes obvious as to the types of fighters Tyson would not fight if he didn't have to...Later Holyfield showed exactly how to beat Tyson and gave everybody the blueprint to do it. Duva gave Holyfield that blueprint years ago and Evander remembered it and even though he was well past his prime Holyfield made it look reasonably easy( of course Tyson was no where near the fighter he was either)...As to the "fighting back" part that has to be taken in the context of where Mike was in his career, but reading the book "Fire and Fear" will give you a lot of insight as to the psyche of Mike Tyson...
Why did Tyson pass up what would have been the biggest fights in history against Foreman and Morrison to fight no-bodies? Ray Mercer called Tyson out continually and would have been another huge $$$ fight and yet no fight...
Getting back on point...There was never anything signed between Tyson and Morrison, NEVER...I don't doubt that Morrison thought he was getting a shot at Mike one day but until something is signed its hoping...Listen to fighters in any class they always talk of promises made and "we"re gonna fight this guy and that"...but the fact is there was plenty of chances for Tyson to beat on the " fragile" (Tyson's words) Tommy Morrison but he chose to fight slobs instead...Just look read the facts and stop believing everything you see/hear on the TV...remember Tyson also promised Holyfield several times early in their career and nothing happened....Finally when something did get signed Tyson went away...
