Thats like saying " If you didnt knock me out I would have won easy " Gotta Remember Knockdowns are huge in boxing ! when you knock someone down, it usually means you hurt the guy with a shot ! ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Thats like saying " If you didnt knock me out I would have won easy " Gotta Remember Knockdowns are huge in boxing ! when you knock someone down, it usually means you hurt the guy with a shot ! ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Sam Peter got outboxed by Wald, Sam knocked him down with illegal shots.... If Wlad and Sam Peter fight again, It will be an early night for Wlad because Manny will have Klitschko throwing that left hook.
Wlad did outbox him while he wasn't holding but remember that there was plenty of time left when he landed that left hook in the 12th and he was too afraid to try to finish. He's still gonna remember Sam's power the next time around too and if he does try the hook, then that will create more opportunities for Sam. Wlad is a very good fighter but I still maintain that holding was the reason he won that night and I truly believe that he doesn't want any part of Sam Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Oh your wrong! there is a part of him that the big german fag wants!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
LOL....today is truly a day that I wish I saved my cc til the last minute.......I'll try to remember tommorow thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Bx, Landmine, LordsGym....you are all in denial accept the fact that Wlad is a better boxer and he just busted up Sam Peter.
Knockdowns are a big part of boxing LordsGym but when you get knocked down 3 times you're not supposed to win and you're not supposed to win big either and I will say 114-111 is BIG considering the knockdowns....that's 3 points Wlad didn't have because of the knockdowns and he still won by 3 more points and it wasn't controversial.
You pussies are just sad that Sam Peter is too one dimensional to be any good, you were hypnotized by his KO shot of Williams.....who the fuck is Jeremy Williams? and why is KO-ing him so great? How about NOT KO-ing Charles Shufford??? Why isn't a big deal made of that???
Next Ibeabuchi my ASS!
Alright, so he didn't KO Shufford. At least he didn't get KTFO by Puritty, Brewster or even Sanders who just got dominated in a 4 round exhibition by none other than Mike Tyson. Maybe that's why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Wladimir was 20 years old when that happened....I don't think Sam was fighting professionally at 20 years old much less being a Gold Medalist and since then he has recovered to be multiple time title holder....Sam Peter hasn't recovered from the whipping Wlad gave him.
On the contrary, you haven't recovered from Peter almost knocking your boy out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
;D PUSSIES???? I prefer snatch box ! bitch dog ! ;) denial?? hell I aint denial. All the HW today lack charisma .. they look robotic , one punch at a time.. Horrible watch. Wlad is better then he was, but still he lacks charisma. He just nothing special and will not be remembered 10 years from now .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
What we need is a heavy a proper one who moves like a middle whose 6ft 9ins weigths 240, got a great chin doesnt clinch throws combos but doesnt have to because one shot will ko you, good looking kid who can sit down in an old folks home and have them pissing themselves with laugthter. If thats what you want, he will be turning pro this year.
thats the formula that get people intrested !Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Ivan Drago's dont grow on trees. The only guy who I can think of who almost fits that description is Ike Ibeabuchi, shame that guy was a criminal because he was awesome. He ain't folks home material though and he ain't pretty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
well really size is not the main factor.. I think HW fighters are becoming too big and to " tall" and that part of the problem, It slows everything down makes everyone look robotic and slow. ... Ike was about 6"2 and half 235 lbs. had an Evander Holyfield work rate and condition factor with a bit more power. a young David Tua 5"9 226 had a nice work rate. Riddick Bowe 6"4 6"5 235 lbs , Lennox Lewis at his best he was 6"5 225 .. that 225lbs version of Lewis would have killed the heavier slower 245 lb version !
I think it poor technique and training habits more then anything else. lack of Conditioning is a factor. and late starters.. that’s a major problem, guys coming into the sport in their 20's . rather then 8 - 9 years old. all these are factors into the modern day Heavyweight. people think they can just strap on some gloves and that it... shit its takes years to become good. and those learning years need to be as a youth, you retain more information as a youngster. and have years to profect your style, before anyone has to watch you on T.V. hehe O0
Ike Ibeabuchi would have them pissing themselves with fear! He'd steal the old mens watches and rape all the old ladies! Kidnapp a nurse and make an escape in a wheelchair then drive it head on into a concrete off ramp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Too bad he's like the ONE guy fatter than James Toney
Ive had him from a 16 year old Hes gone the long way round Prison broken hand night life hes 25 and come out the come out the right side always been a good trainer nows the time to let him out hes unbeaten Im qiute excited by him. Also a tremendous ticket seller.
Back in the day man, we all know he's not gonna be fighting again lyle. Maybe its time to let the heavies go lyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Good luck with all that Scrap ..... you know what I think also helps// is to study fight film.. I think its every bit as important as gym work.. I really do... Film is so important. watching the greats , seeing how they make it happen what they do right and what they do wrong ... trainer and pupil watching film together is a beautiful thing ! . pointing out things and letting the student see how its done correctly along with your input pointing out things .. its like in Football. studying that game film. Its amazing how few study fight film. so much to be learned ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Beat Byrd and Tua.....hhmmmm yeah 1 with no power and the other with nothing but....I think he would have eventually lost to Holyfield, Lewis, Vitali....he would have been beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
The heavyweights are always the most exciting....when they have good fights. Look at Gatti-Ward 1-3 and look at Bowe-Holyfield 1-3....look at Ali-Frazier 1-3....no division other than the heavyweights can create that excitment
I couldnt agree more do it all the time, mind the wife gets the hump with the cakes and tea
Sam Peter will win this time by TKO.He is in much better shape and has the confidence to win.The clock has run out for Toney.
I like Toney but I hope you're right cause Peter is much younger and he along with Wlad can carry the division for years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan