Roy Jones vs Bernard hopkins 2 close to being made

Is there anydefinitive news about this fight being close for real or is it speculation, I havent had to time to read the whole thread just the 1st few posts. Is this real or what?

PS - In last few fights, Jones seems to have a bad habit of getting himself trapped on the ropes. True, he is still great at making people miss when his is in the middle, but why doesn't he stay there more often? I suspect he can't do it anymore.

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Originally Posted by SeanE

We just see these fights so differently. I thought Hopkins did a fine job countering Taylor when he let his hands go. Don't think it's suicide to counter Jones, 2007 version, and I'm stunned that maintain the "Lucky Punch" theory when Tarver fought him so closely in the first fight, KO'd him II, and handled him pretty easily in III.

Hopkins will know what he needs to do. He has a the abililty and reach to 1-2 Jones. I think he can pressure Jones enough. And to pose a question to you, how is Jones going to break Hopkins defense?

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The same way he broke Toney's defense, and every other fighter... He unparalleled accuracy and speed when throwing in numbers and he would overwhelm Hopkins. If Hopkins keeps his hands high then nobody goes to the body better than Roy from the outside, and if Hopkins keeps his left down like he did against Taylor(how doesn't have a good lead right) he will picked apart by Roy's right hand. As for Tarver-Jones I it wasn't that close. The second fight like I said the only clean counter in the three fights, and the tird fight Roy didn't do anything except in rounds 5 and or 6 where Tarver had absolutely no answer for Roy's speed. I was watching Hopkins-Taylor II again, and its funny because Roy seemed to know when Hopkins was going to throw his right as a commentator, and his reflexes when he was younger also consisted of his intelligence, and knowing of what his opponents would do next. So though his speed has slowed a bit he still can predict whats comming before it does.

This fight has the potential to be absolutely horrible. I like technical boxers but this might be too much.

Hopkins lately has just been moving around the ring, and throwing lead rights here and there. Then start over again.

Jones lately has just been moving around the ring, throwing a lead right or a lead hook. Then start over again.

Will Hopkins press the fight? Cause I don't see Jones doing so. If Hopkins doesn't press the fight, and although he at one time could do that well hasn't done it in a pretty long time, then it will be a faintfest mixed in with an occasional lead right hand. Slow paced would be an understatement.

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Originally Posted by SeanE

PS - In last few fights, Jones seems to have a bad habit of getting himself trapped on the ropes. True, he is still great at making people miss when his is in the middle, but why doesn't he stay there more often? I suspect he can't do it anymore.

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yeah i noticedthat and being able to spin out and move around is what madefighting james toney alot easier

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Hopkins' ability didn't rely only on speed so therefore you have to figure B-Hop will do better. He's better at following a fight plan than Roy....for years RJ could do whatever he wanted to and win, now he has to do specific things in order to win....it's hard to come back to that level after being so great at just fighting off the cuff

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CC in 24 if I remember. Perfect though.

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Well said. Hopkins would definitely beat Roy Jones at this point in my opinion. Would love to see it though as both are old favorites of mine. Is this fight supposed to take place at light heavy?

This rematch is happening much too late in their careers. It will be an absolute snoozefest...considering both fighters don't engage that much anymore. Roy is well past it physically and after the Tarver trilogy he lacks that supreme confidence he once had. While Hopkins has kept himself in tremendous shape...his current style of fighting is sleep inducing. I would say Hopkins edges out a win in a rematch just because physically he is sharper. But it will be an ugly and boring fight.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

This fight has the potential to be absolutely horrible. I like technical boxers but this might be too much.

Hopkins lately has just been moving around the ring, and throwing lead rights here and there. Then start over again.

Jones lately has just been moving around the ring, throwing a lead right or a lead hook. Then start over again.

Will Hopkins press the fight? Cause I don't see Jones doing so. If Hopkins doesn't press the fight, and although he at one time could do that well hasn't done it in a pretty long time, then it will be a faintfest mixed in with an occasional lead right hand. Slow paced would be an understatement.

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You are 100% correct, Oumafan!

Am I the only one who likes slow technical fights? I enjoyed JT-Bhop I and II and RJJ-BHOP

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Am I the only one who likes slow technical fights? I enjoyed JT-Bhop I and II and RJJ-BHOP

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:coolclick: I enjoy a good technical fight myself. I can watch a Gunfighting war or a slowpaced game of chess its all good to me

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Am I the only one who likes slow technical fights? I enjoyed JT-Bhop I and II and RJJ-BHOP

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:coolclick: I enjoy a good technical fight myself. I can watch a Gunfighting war or a slowpaced game of chess its all good to me

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yeah me to i always found it odd that people complain about winkys fights cuz i love em or bernards fights or some of roys more mythotical fights

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Am I the only one who likes slow technical fights? I enjoyed JT-Bhop I and II and RJJ-BHOP

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I like technical fights, they don't all have to be brawls. Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters of all time, and I like Winky too, but this one could be just too much. The style matchup is gonna be flat out akward, and will most likely be fought at a far slower pace than RJJ-BHOP 1. The JT-Bhop fights were ok, by no means close to some of my favorite Hopkins' fights, but they were ok, not as bad as some people make them out to be. But this one, I just don't see the styles matching up well.