Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I guess Casamayor is 81
;D
I can't say I didn't see this one coming....
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Olivaries was the best bantam Ive seen in my lifetime bar non until the white powder fucked him
Sad really.
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
How did Harada get where he is thats a mystery
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Scrap
How did Harada get where he is thats a mystery
Shit! I didn't even notice he was there.
Everytime I look at it I disagree with something new.
How the fwock is he there, the only thing I can think of is his 2 and ONLY big wins against 'Golden Bantam' Jofre.... ???
But even then that alone isn't enough.
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by BIG H
In 2002, the writers of Ring Magazine published a ranking of the 80 best fighters of the previous 80 years.
What do you think of the list?
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Rocky Marciano
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Archie Moore
15 Sandy Saddler
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Barney Ross
22. Evander Holyfield
23. Ike Williams
24. Salvador Sanchez
25. George Foreman
26. Kid Gavilian
27. Larry Holmes
28. Mickey Walker
29. Ruben Olivares
30. Gene Tunney
31. Dick Tiger
32. Fighting Harada
33. Emile Griffith
34. Tony Canzoneri
35. Aaron Pryor
36. Pascual Perez
37. Miguel Canto
38. Manuel Ortiz
39. Charley Burley
40. Carmen Basilio
41. Michael Spinks
42. Joe Frazier
43. Khaosai Galaxy
44. Roy Jones Jr.
45. Tiger Flowers
46. Panama Al Brown
47. Kid Chocolate
48. Joe Brown
49. Tommy Loughran
50. Bernard Hopkins
51. Felix Trinidad
52. Jake LaMotta
53. Lennox Lewis
54. Wilfredo Gomez
55. Bob Foster
56. Jose Napoles
57. Billy Conn
58. Jimmy McLarnin
59. Pancho Villa
60. Carlos Ortiz
61. Bob Montgomery
62. Freddie Miller
63. Benny Lynch
64. Beau Jack
65. Azumah Nelson
66. Eusebio Pedroza
67. Thomas Hearns
68. Wilfred Benitez
69. Antonio Cervantes
70. Ricardo Lopez
71. Sonny Liston
72. Mike Tyson
73. Vicente Saldivar
74. Gene Fullmer
75. Oscar De La Hoya
76. Carlos Zarate
77. Marcel Cerdan
78. Flash Elorde
79. Mike McCallum
80. Harold Johnson
Where do I start ;D
Reminds me when ESPN did the top 30 running backs of all time ! any of the top 30 could be #1. There are so many great fighters , its just hard to rate em like # 79 Mike McCallum would be higher up if i did it. but hell.. they all could be #1 .. i think thats my point. Azumah Nelson #65 fantastic little fighter , Ricardo Lopez #70 ??? more like #20. anyway they all great ! O0
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
Holyfeild at cruiser I can live with that
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Mick they probably sell a lot of Rings in Japan
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I think the list is crap for a large part, and there is no way Henry should be ahead of Ali or Pep
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Theres only one fighter there that never won a World Title strange.
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
And hes not as high as he should fucking be Bastards.
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Holyfeild at cruiser I can live with that
yeah Evander was amazing athlete. He was a super Cruiser weight champion , his fights with Qawi were fantastic. and at HW was able to compete physically with the much bigger Heavyweights. You look at the Foreman fight and the Bowe fights, and they were such great entertaining HW Matches. a real showing of Heart and Determination factor, and athletic condition Holyfield . What most people don't realize is when Evander fought Bowe , Holyfield was weighing closer to 180- 190 lbs. Evander had 10 lbs ankle weights on each leg and rolls of quarters in each pocket at weight in ! ;)
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
Quarters with the money hes got
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Mick they probably sell a lot of Rings in Japan
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That or Haradas fam. payed his way. ;D
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Pretty good list, considering as always that these lists are by nature subjective and totally debatable.
I was glad to see names such as Monzon and Arguello, who don't get mentioned much. Holyfield, IMO, is a little too high at 22. Holmes at 27... (shudder).... I can't stand the guy, but I guess he deserves some merit. Pryor was fantastic. Could've been much greater if he hadn't succumbed to drugs. I agree that "Finito" Lopez should be much higher than 70.
Michael Spinks at 41? Gimme a break!
i tell you what if holmes wouldnt of got robbed by spinks twice and would of retired with 50-0 he would be now top 3 hw of all time with louis and ali and marciano would be 4 now
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Scrap
Olivaries was the best bantam Ive seen in my lifetime bar non until the white powder fucked him
Sad really.
I agree I think Olivares should above Sanchez - allthough Sanchez was a special fighter aswell.
Please enlighten me, what happened to Olivares and the white stuff, I've noticed that Olivares doesn't get mentioned all that often, but I'm a fan of the little mexican.
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I haven't really paid much attention to this list until now. And hell yes Ricardo Lopez is too fucking low. Ray Leonard is much to high. His spot should be traded with Lopez's spot. Marcel Cerdan has no business on this list. His record is one of the most padded of all time. I always liked Mike McCallum but he also shouldn't be on this list. If they were able to squeezed in Lennox Lewis and Harold Johnson. They should of squeezed in Erik Morales and Edwin Rosario.
Re: Ring Magazine's Top 80 fighters of 80 Years 1922 - 2002
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I haven't really paid much attention to this list until now. And hell yes Ricardo Lopez is too F****** low. Ray Leonard is much to high. His spot should be traded with Lopez's spot. Marcel Cerdan has no business on this list. His record is one of the most padded of all time. I always liked Mike McCallum but he also shouldn't be on this list. If they were able to squeezed in Lennox Lewis and Harold Johnson. They should of squeezed in Erik Morales and Edwin Rosario.
I'm probably one of the few that would agree with you that Leonard is way too high ;)
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There are a few oon it that first appear strange but reveiwing it I think its pretty fair. what I do find strange is ask any Pro about Leonard hes rated up there in the top 5 Ask todays fan and they are mixed and yet it was the fan base that got him there. Now the top 2 wouldnt go anywhere near I think hes 39 on the list nothing is said about that I wonder why.
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Lopez and Jones and Leonard too low
im thinkin bout doina top 100 list soon so ill use this as an example
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I think this list has alot of flaws!! The one i can't understand is that the best puertorican fighter was the one and only Wifredo Gomez. Don't get me wrong i'm a Tito fan but how in the world does he get higher than Gomez!! :o :o :o
