honestly i can say robinson would destroy him but it can go either way just cuz floyd got skills
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honestly i can say robinson would destroy him but it can go either way just cuz floyd got skills
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I definitely agree with Taeth on this. Old-time greats achieve this kind of untouchable, mythical status because they are a story and a legend, something that becomes airbrushed as time moves on. People act incredulously if someone dares to suggest they could be bested by a current fighter, just some bloke who you can see on tv whenever you want and read about in the press every day. At the end of the day, in most sports the greatest ever exponent is a member of the current, or a very recent, generation. Sports evolve, generations of athletes take what was good from previous eras and improve on it, and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
It definitely makes sense to talk about SRR as the GOAT in terms of his record and what he achieved, but I think there are plently of modern fighters who would beat him if you could make some kind of time machine.
Fair points....However the thing with the olden day greats such as Leonard, Ali there was SOO many great fighters around. I mean look at the FAB 4....Leonard, Heanrs, Duran, Hagler....compare that to....Mayweather,Hatton,Cotto,Taylor. It isnt close on who had the better competition and that is what stays in so many peoples minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by berttrauttman
Bert I know where youre comingfrom I use to think the same thing when I was young.
Lol i guess the topic you mean is .. Over time such great fighters are catapulted with hype..
And 99.5% you dont believe the Hype...
Sugar Ray Robinson is The 0.5%
Mann i never thought i could truely enjoy a fight that was 56 odd years old and that was black and white with it sounding like the commentators tap on the microphone everytime a punch lands...
But when you ignore all that..You see some serious shit in there..
Fighters like robinson, lamotta , charles..Hell even Johnson take alot of these publicised, hyped up fighters of today to school...
Im not talking today's school..Im talkin school back when they gave you six of the best ;D :lickish: ;)
cant believe this is even being debated. sugar would outclass, outbox and outpunch lil floyd 10 out of 10.
No tito thats not it, Its understanding what youre looking at. The old films are all over the place regarding speed the hand and foot coardination is all over the place. I think it was Ice, who put up a vidio of Hearns v Duran which was bad quality they looked like 2 novices now we know theyre not. Try and get somebody to put it back up you will see my point. Sports science at the moment is a bit hit and miss with a lot more misses than hits, its just come onto the shop floor. The sports that have improved have one thing in common, we know what that is. as a speices weve evovled for the better I think not, whats the biggest killer out there in the western world. We are spoiling ourselves to death. Im one of the biggest supportters of advancements in coaching there is, Ive certainly done my bit in advancing ideas. But there isnt the talent to work with there was, thats the truth of the matter the Pscyhodynamics have changed thats the truth.