Re: is MIKE TYSON underrated?
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by undefeated
a prime tyson was devestating--crushing every1 in his way--he didnt go in to box he went in 2 knock hos opponents TFO! and he did
he was once a scientific fighter--had he stayed that way who knows how long he would have been champ.
he became a 1 punch hitter,,,this set him up 4 defeat
he only lost 1 fight in his prime...much like joe louis
now after having a 5 yr retirement.....he sure as hell was just a shadow of his former self
point being -the tyson b4 jail was a legend--after jail--like an old louis
nobody counts louis fights after he came out of retirement, how come they count tysons fights sfter retirement?
people focus on tyson after jail--not b4 when he really was a beast ripping through all his opponents, so i think hes underrated becaus pple focus on his after jail career
If his prime had come 5 or 10 years latter he would have had to face Lewis,Holyfield or Bowe to even win the HW title not the washed up fighters he did fight.
Not his fault I know but he was lucky there was a serious lack of talet around when he was in his prime.
washed up fighters? are you talking about tucker,smith or spinks? lets not forget tucker was a very skilled fighter 35-0 at the time,and bone crusher smith was a dangerous opponent,he was just coming of his destruction of tim witherspoon........and i dont care what anyone says about spinks but he was supposed to give tyson all sorts of trouble,dont forget spinks koed cooney in impressive fashion and his 2 contraversial wins over holmes who was undefeated 48-0...................no one at the time expected tyson to win so easily givin spinks akward style.......after that fight tyson had acomplished all in his career,than sacked rooney the man he took him to the title in the first place,it was all down hill from there you could tell in his next fight with bruno his timing was of and he looked awfull compared to the tyson we all knew.
.....and regarding tyson-holy 92....i feel tyson was not quite his old self but was coming back strong with 2 great wins over ruddick and would have taking a dicission over holyfield if not ko in my oppinion as holyfield hadnt let developed into a true HW at this time :D
Re: is MIKE TYSON underrated?
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Originally Posted by spanky-banky
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by undefeated
a prime tyson was devestating--crushing every1 in his way--he didnt go in to box he went in 2 knock hos opponents TFO! and he did
he was once a scientific fighter--had he stayed that way who knows how long he would have been champ.
he became a 1 punch hitter,,,this set him up 4 defeat
he only lost 1 fight in his prime...much like joe louis
now after having a 5 yr retirement.....he sure as hell was just a shadow of his former self
point being -the tyson b4 jail was a legend--after jail--like an old louis
nobody counts louis fights after he came out of retirement, how come they count tysons fights sfter retirement?
people focus on tyson after jail--not b4 when he really was a beast ripping through all his opponents, so i think hes underrated becaus pple focus on his after jail career
If his prime had come 5 or 10 years latter he would have had to face Lewis,Holyfield or Bowe to even win the HW title not the washed up fighters he did fight.
Not his fault I know but he was lucky there was a serious lack of talet around when he was in his prime.
washed up fighters? are you talking about tucker,smith or spinks? lets not forget tucker was a very skilled fighter 35-0 at the time,and bone crusher smith was a dangerous opponent,he was just coming of his destruction of tim witherspoon........and i dont care what anyone says about spinks but he was supposed to give tyson all sorts of trouble,dont forget spinks koed cooney in impressive fashion and his 2 contraversial wins over holmes who was undefeated 48-0...................no one at the time expected tyson to win so easily givin spinks akward style.......after that fight tyson had acomplished all in his career,than sacked rooney the man he took him to the title in the first place,it was all down hill from there you could tell in his next fight with bruno his timing was of and he looked awfull compared to the tyson we all knew.
.....and regarding tyson-holy 92....i feel tyson was not quite his old self but was coming back strong with 2 great wins over ruddick and would have taking a dicission over holyfield if not ko in my opinion as holyfield hadnt let developed into a true HW at this time :D
tucker had good record but against who exactly ?? he didnt face anyone good until he faced tyson and gave good account himself winning 4 rounds yes big h im saying it again ;) yea spinks got two controversial decisions and alot of people think he should of lost both against old shot larry holmes and holmes getting robbed in 2nd fight yes very impressive bonecrusher had power but he fought scared and didnt do anything until last 12 seconds when he stunned tyson and i disagree with holy vs tyson 1992 aswell holyfield hadnt developed into true hw ?? beating foreman and going 12 rounds with one of best hws of last decade riddick bowe and he hadnt truly developed ?? sorry mate i disagree with that comment
Re: is MIKE TYSON underrated?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by spanky-banky
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by undefeated
a prime tyson was devestating--crushing every1 in his way--he didnt go in to box he went in 2 knock hos opponents TFO! and he did
he was once a scientific fighter--had he stayed that way who knows how long he would have been champ.
he became a 1 punch hitter,,,this set him up 4 defeat
he only lost 1 fight in his prime...much like joe louis
now after having a 5 yr retirement.....he sure as hell was just a shadow of his former self
point being -the tyson b4 jail was a legend--after jail--like an old louis
nobody counts louis fights after he came out of retirement, how come they count tysons fights sfter retirement?
people focus on tyson after jail--not b4 when he really was a beast ripping through all his opponents, so i think hes underrated becaus pple focus on his after jail career
If his prime had come 5 or 10 years latter he would have had to face Lewis,Holyfield or Bowe to even win the HW title not the washed up fighters he did fight.
Not his fault I know but he was lucky there was a serious lack of talet around when he was in his prime.
washed up fighters? are you talking about tucker,smith or spinks? lets not forget tucker was a very skilled fighter 35-0 at the time,and bone crusher smith was a dangerous opponent,he was just coming of his destruction of tim witherspoon........and i dont care what anyone says about spinks but he was supposed to give tyson all sorts of trouble,dont forget spinks koed cooney in impressive fashion and his 2 contraversial wins over holmes who was undefeated 48-0...................no one at the time expected tyson to win so easily givin spinks akward style.......after that fight tyson had acomplished all in his career,than sacked rooney the man he took him to the title in the first place,it was all down hill from there you could tell in his next fight with bruno his timing was of and he looked awfull compared to the tyson we all knew.
.....and regarding tyson-holy 92....i feel tyson was not quite his old self but was coming back strong with 2 great wins over ruddick and would have taking a dicission over holyfield if not ko in my opinion as holyfield hadnt let developed into a true HW at this time :D
tucker had good record but against who exactly ?? he didnt face anyone good until he faced tyson and gave good account himself winning 4 rounds yes big h im saying it again ;) yea spinks got two controversial decisions and alot of people think he should of lost both against old shot larry holmes and holmes getting robbed in 2nd fight yes very impressive bonecrusher had power but he fought scared and didnt do anything until last 12 seconds when he stunned tyson and i disagree with holy vs tyson 1992 aswell holyfield hadnt developed into true hw ?? beating foreman and going 12 rounds with one of best hws of last decade riddick bowe and he hadnt truly developed ?? sorry mate i disagree with that comment
maybe your right ,holyfeild had developed into a true HW.....but i was just racking my brain trying to justify why tyson would beat holy ;D...ok heres another......why did tyson lose to evander 96?answer......endurance! he simply ran out of gas...tyson 92 while not his best was still super fit and hungry and as you know could go 12 hard rounds imo it would probably have gone to the score cards
Re: is MIKE TYSON underrated?
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Originally Posted by spanky-banky
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by spanky-banky
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Originally Posted by porkypara
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Originally Posted by undefeated
a prime tyson was devestating--crushing every1 in his way--he didnt go in to box he went in 2 knock hos opponents TFO! and he did
he was once a scientific fighter--had he stayed that way who knows how long he would have been champ.
he became a 1 punch hitter,,,this set him up 4 defeat
he only lost 1 fight in his prime...much like joe louis
now after having a 5 yr retirement.....he sure as hell was just a shadow of his former self
point being -the tyson b4 jail was a legend--after jail--like an old louis
nobody counts louis fights after he came out of retirement, how come they count tysons fights sfter retirement?
people focus on tyson after jail--not b4 when he really was a beast ripping through all his opponents, so i think hes underrated becaus pple focus on his after jail career
If his prime had come 5 or 10 years latter he would have had to face Lewis,Holyfield or Bowe to even win the HW title not the washed up fighters he did fight.
Not his fault I know but he was lucky there was a serious lack of talet around when he was in his prime.
washed up fighters? are you talking about tucker,smith or spinks? lets not forget tucker was a very skilled fighter 35-0 at the time,and bone crusher smith was a dangerous opponent,he was just coming of his destruction of tim witherspoon........and i dont care what anyone says about spinks but he was supposed to give tyson all sorts of trouble,dont forget spinks koed cooney in impressive fashion and his 2 contraversial wins over holmes who was undefeated 48-0...................no one at the time expected tyson to win so easily givin spinks akward style.......after that fight tyson had acomplished all in his career,than sacked rooney the man he took him to the title in the first place,it was all down hill from there you could tell in his next fight with bruno his timing was of and he looked awfull compared to the tyson we all knew.
.....and regarding tyson-holy 92....i feel tyson was not quite his old self but was coming back strong with 2 great wins over ruddick and would have taking a dicission over holyfield if not ko in my opinion as holyfield hadnt let developed into a true HW at this time :D
tucker had good record but against who exactly ?? he didnt face anyone good until he faced tyson and gave good account himself winning 4 rounds yes big h im saying it again ;) yea spinks got two controversial decisions and alot of people think he should of lost both against old shot larry holmes and holmes getting robbed in 2nd fight yes very impressive bonecrusher had power but he fought scared and didnt do anything until last 12 seconds when he stunned tyson and i disagree with holy vs tyson 1992 aswell holyfield hadnt developed into true hw ?? beating foreman and going 12 rounds with one of best hws of last decade riddick bowe and he hadnt truly developed ?? sorry mate i disagree with that comment
maybe your right ,holyfeild had developed into a true HW.....but i was just racking my brain trying to justify why tyson would beat holy ;D...ok heres another......why did tyson lose to evander 96?answer......endurance! he simply ran out of gas...tyson 92 while not his best was still super fit and hungry and as you know could go 12 hard rounds imo it would probably have gone to the score cards
i agree with 1992 version of tyson vs holy would of gone to scorecards back in 1996 holyfield was tying tyson up on inside so tyson couldnt unload i think tyson was getting frustrated and holyfield made tyson beat himself to be honest and also another reason is holyfield had looked terrible in his last couple of fights and i dont think tyson thought holyfield would be as good as he was that night
Re: is MIKE TYSON underrated?
Holding and holding and more holding helped Holyfield defeat Tyson. A few boxers found Tyson's weakness and were able to exploit it. Holding on the inside frustrated Tyson.
