Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by Pantera
Miranda thinks Jermain Taylor or Kelly Pavlik would be an easier fight for him than Green was.
He commended Green on his defense. He says he moves very well and was hard to hit. When he did get hit he was able to tie up and hold on long enough to recover. He said Pavlik and Taylor are much easier to hit and they will be hurt early in the fight.
Pavlik would be but he likes to fight on the inside and train.
Personally I think Taylor would beat Miranda handily. All of Miranda's shots love to come from the outside and at a distance is Jermain Taylor's game.
Miranda's not an inside fighter and he'd have to be in order to beat Taylor.
I think Miranda would beat Pavlik easily.
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by amat
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seriously you jump on someone after one loss. You keep discrediting him whats it make Miranda look like to get dropped by him?
Green lost to the better man on Saturday and leave it at that. Whats with the Green hating its just one loss!
Because he looked AWFUL. There's no more damaging loss then a loss in which you look scared imo. He had the tools to beat Miranda just didn't use them because he didn't have confidence in himself.
And what??? Thats no reason to bash a fighter when eh hasn't veen been given the chance to comeback yet. If he came back and looked the same way then thats good to hate on him but its only one loss and if he hasn;t even come back from the loss yet then why is everyone hating on him?
No one is concerned that he lost the fight. Everyone is concerned he lost THE fight......the fight to want to fight. No will. Just float along like a piece of crap whenever he faced adversity. Well that is a heart of a champion. And do you know what?? He will look great next time out, on boxing after dark against Lyle.
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
Green actually used a move I use in sparring vs Miranda. He feinted the right cross and threw the left hook....works whenever you have a guy focused on your cross....it also loads the power up on your hook.
Green just seemed to lazy, the weight probably affected him
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Green still can box...one loss is not the end of the world.He beat Jerz. Ravelo who is a somebody.
Yeah ::** ..........I'm not trying to be condescending but it was the manner in which he lost, it would have been better for him if he lost a close desicion in an entertaining fight or if he got KO'D early in the fight... But to constantly going backwards and throw one or two punches and then hold is purely a chickenshit way to fight.. Again hardly the sizziling hot juggernaut phenom he builds himself up to be
yeah...if he went out like paulie Mag then maybe he would have kept some respect...but to hold on like a worried prom date is a bit over the top...he has lost any respect he had...he needs to get it back...but the question is "Can He?" the only way to do it is to continue to step up and fight the tougher competition....I don't see it happening anytime soon...
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
I think he'd be better suited for 168. #1 The competition isn't as deep there #2 He doesn't kill himself as bad to make the weight, #3 He'll have more power and more stamina there.
I mean Peter Manfredo gets a shot at the top dog of the division....why risk fighting at 160 when you may get a scrap of a belt thrown at you at 168.
I never figured Miranda would get so frustrated fighting Green....I mean he'll NEVER beat Jermain Taylor like that....JT would bug the shit out of him, jabbing, moving, circling. Miranda only wants to brawl and he'll find very few suitors for that
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
Jermain Taylor would beat Miranda. Miranda fights on the outside, its where all his power comes from and Jermain is an outside fighter, so Miranda's style falls into Jermain's game.
People say "Ouma got inside on Jermain so easily" but Ouma is an inside fighter, Miranda isn't.
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Jermain Taylor would beat Miranda. Miranda fights on the outside, its where all his power comes from and Jermain is an outside fighter, so Miranda's style falls into Jermain's game.
People say "Ouma got inside on Jermain so easily" but Ouma is an inside fighter, Miranda isn't.
I agree to disagree ol hidden one ;D Taylor has abandoned everything that got him to the big time, including that Jackhammer of a Jab... He hasnt improved at all even with Steward in his corner, on the contrary he seems wilder and undiscplined wasting punches and expending to much energy.. He is athletically gifted but not enough to get by on it alone.... Miranda would crush him :-\
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Jermain Taylor would beat Miranda. Miranda fights on the outside, its where all his power comes from and Jermain is an outside fighter, so Miranda's style falls into Jermain's game.
People say "Ouma got inside on Jermain so easily" but Ouma is an inside fighter, Miranda isn't.
I agree to disagree ol hidden one ;D Taylor has abandoned everything that got him to the big time, including that Jackhammer of a Jab... He hasnt improved at all even with Steward in his corner, on the contrary he seems wilder and undiscplined wasting punches and expending to much energy.. He is athletically gifted but not enough to get by on it alone.... Miranda would crush him :-\
No, Taylor would pick him apart. If they ever fight I pick Jermain to win that fight. Miranda should fight Pavlik and knock him out while Jermain moves up in weight and Miranda can fight for a vacant title or something.
But I strongly believe that Taylor would beat Miranda
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
Taylor fights all his fights the way Miguel Cotto fights in Puerto Rico....he gets too tense and he tires himself out.
If he relaxes and uses the jab to set up his other punches then he'll be an awesome fighter. I think being at 160 affects his power as well.
Re: Anyone dig up any articles on the myriad of excuses Allen Green probably has
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Jermain Taylor would beat Miranda. Miranda fights on the outside, its where all his power comes from and Jermain is an outside fighter, so Miranda's style falls into Jermain's game.
People say "Ouma got inside on Jermain so easily" but Ouma is an inside fighter, Miranda isn't.
I agree to disagree ol hidden one ;D Taylor has abandoned everything that got him to the big time, including that Jackhammer of a Jab... He hasnt improved at all even with Steward in his corner, on the contrary he seems wilder and undiscplined wasting punches and expending to much energy.. He is athletically gifted but not enough to get by on it alone.... Miranda would crush him :-\
No, Taylor would pick him apart. If they ever fight I pick Jermain to win that fight. Miranda should fight Pavlik and knock him out while Jermain moves up in weight and Miranda can fight for a vacant title or something.
But I strongly believe that Taylor would beat Miranda
I think your right that Taylor moves up and does not risk a fight with Miranda. Even if you don't believe in him, Miranda is a dangerous opponent.
But if the fight did happen, I still think Miranda wins. Yes, Green frustrated him, but Pantera still won by a large UD. If Taylor frustrates him why can't he do the same? Taylor is not a great skilled boxer. He is going to have to fight to win rounds. If he gets hit by Miranda right hand, he too may 'respect' the power and go into survival mode.
Miranda is calling out Taylor big time. He wants the fight badly. Most fans want the fight badly. Let's see what Taylor has to say.
