Best handspeed?

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Sugar Ray Leonard.

One of the best round thief's of all time.

I never thought of it as stealing rounds. I called securing the round. Sugar Ray was smart.His flurries were awesome. His show boating was a treat :)

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That's more like it. He had almost everything, and it's coming from a guy who used to shout on the tube 'cmon, smack the clown on the face, smack him hard!' Believe me, I never liked the guy but always had to reluctantly concede 'he's damn good!'

1. without a doubt roy jones jr
2. meldrick taylor
3. muhamed ali as a young heavyweight
4. mike tyson BEST COMBINATION OF SPEED AND POWER EVER

fastest combinations, Ray Leonard and Meldrick Taylor

fastest straight shots, Ali, Mayweather, Judah and Thomas Hearns

fastest hooks, Tyson and Roy Jones Jr

fastest hand speed over all....I'd have to say Roy Jones Jr because of his jab when he used it he had one of the quickest and most accurate jabs when he used it and all around Roy had a better all around hand speed department.

The rest of them were just either good at one thing or the other.

Ok I can't pass this up ;D

Who am I?


FASTEST HAM SPEED HAS TO BE MIKEL KESSLER!!! HE FAST HANDS THEN JONES ROY AND HOPKINS PUT TOGETHER!! HE JAB SHOPTH ON THE FACE HARD!!! HOPKIS NA JONES WINKY DODFGE HIM CAUSE HE DESTROY ALL IN PATH!!! KESSLER HAND SPEEDD BLUR NEVER SEE IT COMING TO YOUT FACE AND BREAK BODY BONES!!! KO!! KESSLER KING OF SPEED!!!


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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by pacfan

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Originally Posted by cockey cockney

SRL

...Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

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Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk! :'(

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No offence, but that made me laugh out loud... Until I realized you weren't joking. I don't think any natural middleweight in history would have KOed Hagler.. And to say SRL would have evver had any chance is really really a ridiculous statement imo. If he had ever tried to KO Hagler at any point in his career it only would have lead to him taking more punishment.. He had to fight Marvin the way he did, he couldn't take good shots from him, and he had no ability to hurt Hagler. Have you even seen the fight? I kind of doubt it.

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I think Roy Jones Jr. could have. Or Julian Jackson

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Originally Posted by Majesty

fastest combinations, Ray Leonard and Meldrick Taylor

fastest straight shots, Ali, Mayweather, Judah and Thomas Hearns

fastest hooks, Tyson and Roy Jones Jr

fastest hand speed over all....I'd have to say Roy Jones Jr because of his jab when he used it he had one of the quickest and most accurate jabs when he used it and all around Roy had a better all around hand speed department.

The rest of them were just either good at one thing or the other.

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CC, but Roy only had a good jab in 2 or 3 of his fights, and it wasn't as quick asthe rest of his punches. Only against Pazienza and Ruiz did it look like a frightening tool.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

if tommy hearns or john mugabi couldnt ko hagler leonard definetly wouldnt who had only just about over average power

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I dont think Leonard could stop Hagler or anything close to it. But in his prime at Welter he cracked like a MOFO when he wanted to.....jsut above average is a big understatement IMO.

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if tommy hearns or john mugabi couldnt ko hagler leonard definetly wouldnt who had only just about over average power

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I dont think Leonard could stop Hagler or anything close to it. But in his prime at Welter he cracked like a MOFO when he wanted to.....jsut above average is a big understatement IMO.

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well out of 10 id rate his power 6 out of 10 he had power that would make you respect him but he didnt have kinda power that could turn fight around he would have to hit you multiple times to do that and Shane Mosley has very quick hands and combos he is top 5 easily at moment

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Originally Posted by cockey cockney

SRL

...Imagine if Leonard never came across that eye injury as pacfan stated. Considering he was already one of the finest P4P fighters OF ALL TIME imo.....without long lay off's who knows what he would of achieved.

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Yup, not only the layoffs but also the mental baggage he carried after coming off such a serious condition - detached retina - which simply means his eyeball could've come out of the socket anytime if it weren't corrected. How can he ever come forward fighting after coming off such a shock? He hardly did but still managed to 'box' Hagler beautifully. If he weren't bothered with that, I think he would've come more forward and could've KO'd him - at least he would have had the means to do so, IMO, with more experience and in his prime. What a damn good boxer he could've been?! Tsk, tsk! :'(

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No offence, but that made me laugh out loud... Until I realized you weren't joking. I don't think any natural middleweight in history would have KOed Hagler.. And to say SRL would have evver had any chance is really really a ridiculous statement imo. If he had ever tried to KO Hagler at any point in his career it only would have lead to him taking more punishment.. He had to fight Marvin the way he did, he couldn't take good shots from him, and he had no ability to hurt Hagler. Have you even seen the fight? I kind of doubt it.

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I think Roy Jones Jr. could have. Or Julian Jackson

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It's possible.. Id see Roy Jones winning a competitive fight by decision being more likely.. Maybe Jackson would have a chance to KO Hagler but imo he would more likely be KOed himself in trying to. Those two would have probably as good a chance as anonyone ever though, certainly SRL didn't have power anywhere near comparable to theirs at 160...