Why Do People Always Criticize Roy Jones Record

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

the guy beat James Toney Reggie Johnson Bernard Hopkins Clinton Woods Virgil Hill Montell Griffin and bunch of other great fighters to the people who criticize Jones record tell me who else he could of fought at that time that was any greater than the names i just mentioned

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Don't get me wrong, I think RJJ would've beaten any of these guys, but he could've fought some of these names and didn't

McCallum (fought him eventually)
Eubank
Liles
Jackson
Barkley
Nunn
McClellan
Benn
Collins

The problem is nobody wanted to fight Jones here in america. ALl these little names like Dariusz and even the guys from Brittain wtih bigger names would not come here, and expected Jones to fight in their weight class.

Almost every fighters record gets criticized once they reach a certain level of succes.All fighters have somone they "could've" fought but didnt..it doesnt matter.

I don't think oscar has ever been criticized. He has the highest level of opposition anyone has ever had.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I don't think oscar has ever been criticized. He has the highest level of opposition anyone has ever had.

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someone on here was dissing Oscar level of opposition aswell can't remember who but yes Oscar fought loads of greats but he didn't beat as many greats as Roy Jones

RJJ is criticized because he made great fighters look average.plain and simple. He was TOO good for his own good. And most of the guys mentioned whom RJJ did not fight,you have to ask yourself,was it RJJ that did not fight them OR did they choose not to fight him? And some,Eubank for example,openly admitted that he did not think he could beat RJJ(I think it was in his autobiography),so knowing that,I HIGHLY doubt he ever actually wanted to fight him.

And in beating James Toney and B Hop,RJJ arguably beat 2 opponents who have far far greater legacies than anyone he did not face. Plain and simple,RJJ was,at his a prime,a superman,a genetic freak blessed with every PHYSICAL attribute a fighter could want. :D ;D

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

RJJ is criticized because he made great fighters look average.plain and simple. He was TOO good for his own good. And most of the guys mentioned whom RJJ did not fight,you have to ask yourself,was it RJJ that did not fight them OR did they choose not to fight him? And some,Eubank for example,openly admitted that he did not think he could beat RJJ(I think it was in his autobiography),so knowing that,I HIGHLY doubt he ever actually wanted to fight him.

And in beating James Toney and B Hop,RJJ arguably beat 2 opponents who have far far greater legacies than anyone he did not face. Plain and simple,RJJ was,at his a prime,a superman,a genetic freak blessed with every attribute a fighter could want.

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well said agreed :coolclick:

CC back bruv¬ :D ;)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

RJJ is criticized because he made great fighters look average.plain and simple. He was TOO good for his own good. And most of the guys mentioned whom RJJ did not fight,you have to ask yourself,was it RJJ that did not fight them OR did they choose not to fight him? And some,Eubank for example,openly admitted that he did not think he could beat RJJ(I think it was in his autobiography),so knowing that,I HIGHLY doubt he ever actually wanted to fight him.

And in beating James Toney and B Hop,RJJ arguably beat 2 opponents who have far far greater legacies than anyone he did not face. Plain and simple,RJJ was,at his a prime,a superman,a genetic freak blessed with every attribute a fighter could want.

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:coolclick: #1476 Agreed on all things except last statement... If you are speaky physically yes!!!! But as far as Fundamentals, Technique, Hell NO!!! Not being picky mind you, but with Roy you find greatness in alot of ways, but Imagine a Roy that worked on boxing basics and sound defense... He would still be flourishing today as we speak without the Tarver and Johnson situations :-\ But good solid points Gamo

cc back JT,you're totally correct hence the change in wording. Man I wish RJJ had just retired after the Ruiz fight!!! >:mad >:mad >:mad

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Originally Posted by the phenom

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Originally Posted by the phenom

i challange u roy jones critics find a fighter in the last 30 years that u think was good and list his competition and roy......... basicly list all the good fighters they fought and won and then ull see no big defrence .............and under heavyweight czu we know 30 years ago heavyweights was who who of the greaets

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no takers on the challange thas what i thought

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i think i prove my point noone in the last thirty years had that great of opposition cuz the dominant fighters stay dominant ur guys problem is u guys compare jones to ray robinson...... aguy who had almost 200 fight afcourse hell have toughre oposition cuz it wasnt bout promring urself back then times have changed andin the modern day jones is the greatest of this era

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

RJJ is criticized because he made great fighters look average.plain and simple. He was TOO good for his own good. And most of the guys mentioned whom RJJ did not fight,you have to ask yourself,was it RJJ that did not fight them OR did they choose not to fight him? And some,Eubank for example,openly admitted that he did not think he could beat RJJ(I think it was in his autobiography),so knowing that,I HIGHLY doubt he ever actually wanted to fight him.

And in beating James Toney and B Hop,RJJ arguably beat 2 opponents who have far far greater legacies than anyone he did not face. Plain and simple,RJJ was,at his a prime,a superman,a genetic freak blessed with every attribute a fighter could want.

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:coolclick: #1476 Agreed on all things except last statement... If you are speaky physically yes!!!! But as far as Fundamentals, Technique, Hell NO!!! Not being picky mind you, but with Roy you find greatness in alot of ways, but Imagine a Roy that worked on boxing basics and sound defense... He would still be flourishing today as we speak without the Tarver and Johnson situations :-\ But good solid points Gamo

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Life doesn't work like that (not that I have a clue about life, of course :-\)

Change anything about Roy Jones and we might not even "know" him

His natural talent, uniqueness, training, work, upbringing is what made him who he is. Change any of that and you have a completely different person.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

RJJ is criticized because he made great fighters look average.plain and simple. He was TOO good for his own good. And most of the guys mentioned whom RJJ did not fight,you have to ask yourself,was it RJJ that did not fight them OR did they choose not to fight him?  And some,Eubank for example,openly admitted that he did not think he could beat RJJ(I think it was in his autobiography),so knowing that,I HIGHLY doubt he ever actually wanted to fight him.

And in beating James Toney and B Hop,RJJ arguably beat 2 opponents who have far far greater legacies than anyone he did not face. Plain and simple,RJJ was,at his a prime,a superman,a genetic freak blessed with every attribute a fighter could want.

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:coolclick: #1476        Agreed on all things except last statement... If you are speaking physically yes!!!! But as far as Fundamentals, Technique, Hell NO!!!  Not being picky mind you, but with Roy you find greatness in alot of ways, but Imagine a Roy that worked on boxing basics and sound defense... He would still be flourishing today as we speak without the Tarver and Johnson situations  :-\  But good solid points Gamo 

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Life doesn't work like that (not that I have a clue about life, of course :-\)

Change anything about Roy Jones and we might not even "know" him

His natural talent, uniqueness, training, work, upbringing is what made him who he is. Change any of that and you have a completely different person.

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OH YEA PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






























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