Re: setting measurable goals for improvement of technique
Is it just me or is it so easy to overtrain by accident because it can be the little easy workouts ometimes that put you over the edge. The ones you think shouldn't count for much like the easy 30 min jog you do with a friend or transport cycling. Also I used to feel fine the first and second day I would overtrain in the week - it wasn't until I'd already overdone it I for several days that I felt really burnt out and sleep deprived.
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Me, I never had any problem over training. I'd just get the achies when starting something new and in a week I'm increasing like a madman.
Not to beat my own drum but I gotta tell you when I started weight training a few years ago. Everone lifting was doing at least their own bodyweight on the free weights. For me the first few days I was so sore I had half the range of motion in my arms, and my legs were shaky. Like magic the soreness went away after the week and I was adding several pounds everyday. On some machines like the leg extensions I could squeeze off more than 65 lbs (3 sets/10 reps) but after a month I was doing 180 which was the machines max, with the addition of ankle weights and 15 reps. I have good endurance when I'm in season, I was only outdone by a friend of mine that could have given Bruce Lee a run for the money. Biggest factors that helped me go full throttal was going to bed at 10:00/30ish and getting a good 8 hours sleep. A good labor job helps, and also a good routine along with a good diet.
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A big part of it with me might have been sleep but I also just became enthused with running and overtrained with that. If spread the same time over other parts of my training a little more like low intensity weights and more swimming perhaps it wouldn't have been so bad? Perhaps it also crept up on me because I was used to running enough to get sore legs relatively rarely and it was just overall fatigue that hit me when I overtrained.
Although I am guessing here as since everyones probably already worked out I'm not a sports scientist/trainer - just a plant geek trying to pick up a few things from everyone else.
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It sounds like you need to run without impact
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wha'd you have in mind, scrap? ;)
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A cross country nordic track would do the trick. I also heard that Rocky Marciano would run for about 45 minutes in the early morning would do about that much in walking in the evening. Walking isn't in addition isn't bad, you don't really have to concentrate on the task at hand and you can concentrate more on your plans, listen to music or talk on the phone. Except I'd take it easy on the legs until you know what's wrong with them.
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If you have read her posts, you'll know she spends time swimming. Of course I bet Jesus didn't have to worry about any high impact problems when walking on water.
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Chris not swiming Running in it
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My bad. That's a good one, it also offers some good resistance. I remember when I spent some time vacationing in the Philippines I'd go running barefoot on the beach with water past my knees. What a workout! Normally I run up a hilly landscape that would take the best of me, but with water, and sand it's a whole different experience. I also read some time back that the sand is good for the Achilles tendon, for your ankles and the arch of your feet.
On another note, both Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali would shadowbox a few rounds in the water. One account from one of Rocky's long time friends is that after boxing a few rounds on the heavybag, he'd go jump in the pool and mostly threw left hooks and uppercuts.
I have reason to believe that Rocky's acute handspeed, and prodigious hitting power can be accredited to the fact that a lot of his early effort went into baseball.
I won't go into detail but I remember reading in one of the books on him that he was examined by a doctor after he had a shoulder injury a doctor remarked on his impressive handspeed. After that Rocky couldn't pit a fastball from home to second, but his shoulder wasn't a factor in boxing.
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Up to the chin with a life jacket on otherwise you can damage the upper vertabrae
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I've shadowboxed up to my chin. But I wasn't aware that the spine was under any stress when I ran in the water. Could you explain a little a more in light of what happens to the spine?
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Thanks Scrap and Yes I'd be interested in how it damages your vertebrae too.
I've got a couple of other running friends who are injured at the mo too - one has a heel spur and the other rolled her ankle recently. So if it's fine for them too I'll drag them along :)
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Scrap and his free physio therapy advice... Bring Friends! :)
You know what Sharla, you're making more smilies now. What's on your mind?
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I miss my old running buddies - I'm glad Scrap could come up with a way for us to run together again :) :) :)
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i used to work on my baseball swing in my pool. worked wonders. In fact it's primarily why I played in the majors.
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Oh really--you played in the majors!?
Now I'd like to see some stats. :)
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The neck is working and is free of the density of water will move differently to the rest of the body and is working to stablise whats above doing its job
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Thanks Scrap, I'll keep that in mind. I think I read something about that before in waterpolo athletes and spinal injuries.
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Yep, thanks Scrap. We'll be careful to stay in the deep water - the last thing we need is more injuries!