Guzman to fight Katsidis?

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by amat

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

Well why is Guzman moving up to Lightweight ??? He barely just for to 130 ??? He's got guts but why leave 130 ???

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Is it at 135? Well what other fights are there for Guzman?

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If Guzman is moving up,that is a mistake imo. He has little power at 130. And there are plenty of fights at 130,Juarez,Valero,Soto etc.

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I thought maybe Juarez but he has a May 5 date and possibly a matchup with Chris John. I don't know what the deal on that one is. Valero's camp isn't stupid enough to put him in with Guzman, at least I don't think but Soto would be an awesome fight. Huge clash of styles, would love to see that one.

JMM would beat Guzman quite handily. I would never rule V Nom out of any fight,his power is freakish and as he gets more experience,he will only get better and better. Juarez and Guzman has a real nice styles clash but I really don't think Jaurez has what it takes to beat a top opponent(I don't rate Juarez highly at all) and I think Guzman's defence would frustrate him. Soto Guzman would be a barnburner,I really like Soto alot but I don't HOW good he is. He needs to fight a good name soon or later though!

Yeah,I forgot,I posted it,Juarez is fighting Hernandez I think,the guy who KTFO lITZAU if I'm correct.

Well as long as Guzman comes back down and fights at 130 win or lose this fight I'll be happy.

I'd like to see the Soto fight too!!


But I give Guzman props he will fight anyone especially someone bigger at 135 who isnt a soft puncher and Guzman doesn't have that power anymore, I just hope his boxing skill is as good as its been at his best

Yeah,credit to Guzman for taking this fight,there was absolutely no need to. I dont know about you guys but wheneever I watch Guzman,I get the feeling that he finds everything ridiculously easY! The Barrios fight is the perfect example,I thought he could have pressed Barrios more but he looked so cool,so relaxed against the ropes and if Barrios cannot get him out of that rythm,it'll be tough for other fighters too! Katsidis power could be a factor here but he looks very open to counters though!

How do you guys see a Soto Guzman fight playing out?

I would pick Guzman to stop him in about 5 rounds Earl made him touch down and he was badly shaken aswell at that point Guzman is miles ahead of Earl in class

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I would pick Guzman to stop him in about 5 rounds Earl made him touch down and he was badly shaken aswell at that point Guzman is miles ahead of Earl in class

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True, but all it takes is one punch.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Yeah,I forgot,I posted it,Juarez is fighting Hernandez I think,the guy who KTFO lITZAU if I'm correct.

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Yup. If you want to see a really good fight to see why Juarez - Hernandez is good matchmaking, watch Hernandez take on Antonio Escalante who has a similar style to Juarez. Happened in early 06, shouldn't be hard to find.

This is a good fight for Katsidis, a good name in Guzman and a good fighter too.
Katsidis wins this and he moves into big time territory, he loses...big deal he has youth and
time on his side. I think he will win it!

Put me down for a Katsidis UD win....

And to think this shit! is going down in my backyard.... :D

Can't fwocken wait..... 8)

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Originally Posted by glennf

This is a good fight for Katsidis, a good name in Guzman and a good fighter too.
Katsidis wins this and he moves into big time territory, he loses...big deal he has youth and
time on his side. I think he will win it!

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Are you going to go and see it? That is of course,if the fight is still on >:mad :(

Sycuan denies Guzman bout!

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...uPkoiMfTT.html

Sycuan Ringside Promotions officials denied Saturday that a proposed bout between undefeated WBO junior lightweight champion Joan Guzman and WBO lightweight interim titlist Michael Katsidis is made.

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I would pick Guzman to stop him in about 5 rounds Earl made him touch down and he was badly shaken aswell at that point Guzman is miles ahead of Earl in class

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i didnt think katsidis was too shaken against earl, and i have rarely been as impressed by someones power.It was like he had bricks for fists!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by glennf

This is a good fight for Katsidis, a good name in Guzman and a good fighter too.
Katsidis wins this and he moves into big time territory, he loses...big deal he has youth and
time on his side. I think he will win it!

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Are you going to go and see it? That is of course,if the fight is still on >:mad :(

Sycuan denies Guzman bout!

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...iMfTT.htmlWhat a bummer if this fight does not happen! :o

Sycuan Ringside Promotions officials denied Saturday that a proposed bout between undefeated WBO junior lightweight champion Joan Guzman and WBO lightweight interim titlist Michael Katsidis is made.

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

I'd like to see Guzman against JMM

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id like this fight too.. im just anxious to see what happens if jmm punches guzman while he rolls his shoulder... maybe jmm could dislocate it

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I would pick Guzman to stop him in about 5 rounds Earl made him touch down and he was badly shaken aswell at that point Guzman is miles ahead of Earl in class

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i didnt think katsidis was too shaken against earl, and i have rarely been as impressed by someones power.It was like he had bricks for fists!

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Yeah Katsidis is a banger and his record supports this but he couldnt miss Earl . Graham has to have the worst defence iver ever seen and it still took Katsidis afew rounds to finish him off plus he was decked himself

Its a massive jump up in class to face Guzman . Katsidis wont have sucess landing punches infact if he can land as many punches on Joan in 12 rounds as he did on Eral in 1 round then I'll be surprised . Guzmans shoulder roll, reflex defence rivals that of PBF and he has teh speed to go with it . Katsisdis will have trouble trying to land a glove on him as he plods forward taking flurries from the superior Guzman . Katsisdis seems like a good bloke and he deserves respect for taking this fight but I think he is guna get owned big time

Kastisdis is a good fighter i was really impressed with him watching him go about his work .

The Earl fight was an eye opener for alot of people but truth is Earl is domestic class only .

I respect MK for takingon Guzman it'll be hard but he has power and Guzman is a fighter whom blows hot and cold.

cant wait for this one either. 2007 keeps looking better and better for boxing.

Is Guzman moving up? Can someone tell me WHY!?!?!?!?

Odd matchup.

I mean I give credit to Katsidis for taking it but I don't give him much of a chance.

I've only seen him once but I find it hard to believe that the guy in the Earl fight could beat Guzman.

Anything's possible, I guess he could outwork Guzman and maybe Guzman would get tired down the stretch, his stamina is a bit iffy but I would be very surprised if Guzman didn't win a UD and I wouldn't be shocked by a late stoppage. Not that Guzman has much power but Katsidis is gonna be taking a lot of clean punches for 12 rounds and might get broken down.

Guzmans power took a serious hit moving up from 126 to 130... I don't understand why he want's to fight at lightweight at all.

It was a good decision for Guzman to go up. He was not known in the superfeatherweight division. I think he wants to make a lasting impression so he decided to go up (where there is still no great boxer).

Ive only seen each fighter once.
I see Earl v Katsidis..

Graham Earl was infuriatingly poor in his fight with Katsidis. So im not too sold on the distruction of a punch bag.

Guzman is a mile better than Katsidis but a fight at 135?! Madness! :-\

I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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Originally Posted by GAME

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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EM = Erik Morales ;D
I know Katsidis was on his ass against Earl and rocked in a few spots, but even Graham Earl was a step up for Katsidis in that stage and he coped pretty well, I'd liken it to Hatton getting put down and rocked again a round later by Eamon Magee, or Cotto getting nailed by Torres, it usually happens to upstart world class contenders. I think Katsidis size and power will always give him a chance against Guzman, potentially he could be one of the best.

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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EM = Erik Morales ;D
I know Katsidis was on his a** against Earl and rocked in a few spots, but even Graham Earl was a step up for Katsidis in that stage and he coped pretty well, I'd liken it to Hatton getting put down and rocked again a round later by Eamon Magee, or Cotto getting nailed by Torres, it usually happens to upstart world class contenders. I think Katsidis size and power will always give him a chance against Guzman, potentially he could be one of the best.

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Thats what I thought but Erik isnt retired . He is fighting David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title in his next fight .

Hatton and Cotto are alot easier to hit than Guzman . Joan has a defence rivalled only by Pretty Boy Floyd . His reflexes are superb and I dont think Katsidis will land a glove on him . I could be wrong but it took several flush shots to finish Earl and Earls defence is pi*s poor . Guzman wont take that many and when he does he can absorb them

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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EM = Erik Morales ;D
I know Katsidis was on his a** against Earl and rocked in a few spots, but even Graham Earl was a step up for Katsidis in that stage and he coped pretty well, I'd liken it to Hatton getting put down and rocked again a round later by Eamon Magee, or Cotto getting nailed by Torres, it usually happens to upstart world class contenders. I think Katsidis size and power will always give him a chance against Guzman, potentially he could be one of the best.

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Thats what I thought but Erik isnt retired . He is fighting David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title in his next fight .

Hatton and Cotto are alot easier to hit than Guzman . Joan has a defence rivalled only by Pretty Boy Floyd . His reflexes are superb and I dont think Katsidis will land a glove on him . I could be wrong but it took several flush shots to finish Earl and Earls defence is pi*s poor . Guzman wont take that many and when he does he can absorb them

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At lightweight? you really think?

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM would beat Guzman quite handily. I would never rule V Nom out of any fight,his power is freakish and as he gets more experience,he will only get better and better. Juarez and Guzman has a real nice styles clash but I really don't think Jaurez has what it takes to beat a top opponent(I don't rate Juarez highly at all) and I think Guzman's defence would frustrate him. Soto Guzman would be a barnburner,I really like Soto alot but I don't HOW good he is. He needs to fight a good name soon or later though!

Yeah,I forgot,I posted it,Juarez is fighting Hernandez I think,the guy who KTFO lITZAU if I'm correct.

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There's not a chance in hell that Jmm would "beat Guzman handily", Guzman isn't a washed up Barera you know!!, and even he gave Jmm hell and should have had a knock down against him, Guzman is one of the most exciting well schooled boxers in the game right now, i personally think he'd ud Jmm or even stop him late on, people talk about Joan's supposed "lack of power" but the man can hit hard, he rocked the hell out of Barrios on many occasions and but for Joan's relaxed attitude that night i'm sure he could have stopped Barrios easy, i saw the Katsidis vs Earl fight the other day and he hit Earl with all he had and still couldn't knock him clean out, he's also way too open and will get picked off at will imo, i think it will be Easy for Guzman and when he's done with Katsidis hopefully Pac will stop running for once and fight him.

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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spot on my friend cc for you

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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EM = Erik Morales ;D
I know Katsidis was on his a** against Earl and rocked in a few spots, but even Graham Earl was a step up for Katsidis in that stage and he coped pretty well, I'd liken it to Hatton getting put down and rocked again a round later by Eamon Magee, or Cotto getting nailed by Torres, it usually happens to upstart world class contenders. I think Katsidis size and power will always give him a chance against Guzman, potentially he could be one of the best.

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Thats what I thought but Erik isnt retired . He is fighting David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title in his next fight .

Hatton and Cotto are alot easier to hit than Guzman . Joan has a defence rivalled only by Pretty Boy Floyd . His reflexes are superb and I dont think Katsidis will land a glove on him . I could be wrong but it took several flush shots to finish Earl and Earls defence is pi*s poor . Guzman wont take that many and when he does he can absorb them

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Cheers for that, great news ;D.
As for Guzman having the best defence other than floyd, thats arguble, I've seen Guzman eat clean punches in a few of his fights, particularly the Barrios fight he got caught a few times which garnered one of the best responses I've ever seen in a ring, he was so pissed off that he got hit that he put on a really mean face and clocked Barrios with a big combo (2nd round I think). I think Guzman is the full package, and I think he'll be able to fight at lightweight no problem, and I think in the next few years he could rise to P4P status, but... Katsidis is also untested and clearly capable of finishing off anyone if he gets the chance, he has tremendous power, and is still learning how to use it, he could be the hardest puncher Guzman has ever faced.

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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I just think its a huge jump up in class from Earl to Katsidis . Remember the Aussie was on the floor in that one so I think he's in trouble here

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EM = Erik Morales ;D
I know Katsidis was on his a** against Earl and rocked in a few spots, but even Graham Earl was a step up for Katsidis in that stage and he coped pretty well, I'd liken it to Hatton getting put down and rocked again a round later by Eamon Magee, or Cotto getting nailed by Torres, it usually happens to upstart world class contenders. I think Katsidis size and power will always give him a chance against Guzman, potentially he could be one of the best.

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Thats what I thought but Erik isnt retired . He is fighting David Diaz for the WBC lightweight title in his next fight .

Hatton and Cotto are alot easier to hit than Guzman . Joan has a defence rivalled only by Pretty Boy Floyd . His reflexes are superb and I dont think Katsidis will land a glove on him . I could be wrong but it took several flush shots to finish Earl and Earls defence is pi*s poor . Guzman wont take that many and when he does he can absorb them

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At lightweight? you really think?

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Yup I do . Earl did for a few rounds and that was when he was taking clean shot after clean shot . I dont expect Guzman to have to absorb that many but he has the whiskers to if they do come at him . Ive never even seen teh guy buzzed or fazed by a shot

Yoitsdan - I duno if I agree with you here

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Katsidis is also untested and clearly capable of finishing off anyone

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He had opportunity after opportunity to finish off Earl . He even tried the uncharacteristic flurries but in the end the corner had to stop it despite his best efforts. He is inexperienced at finishing fighters with abit of class . Guzman is a defensive genius and even if he does get hurt which I doubt I cant see Katsidis following up being able to catch him again . Joan is in total control of everything he does so he'll cover up , do the shoulder roll , let Michael punch himself out and then come right back at him .

He'll be too quick and classy for Katsidis and im almost certain he'll make it look easy too .

Topics merged for a better talk. :)

Fearless prediction:
Guzman by late stoppage.

Every boxer is only 1 punch away from a loss ;) Kats is only 26 so who knows how much he will improve as his competition does.

I've seen both guys fight quite a bit & I'm going with Katsidis by decision.

This is a great match up though & I gotta give credit to both guys for making the fight!

Guzman is better technically but Katsidis has got some mean talent also. They both got power but @ 135 I give the edge to Katsidis.

Guzman seems to coast @ times where I feel Katsidis is all intensity all the time, this will be the key to victory. Make Guzman fight every second of the fight, don't let him rest or lay back, make it a brawl.

Guzman needs to box but I just don't think he can keep Michael of off him.

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I think everyone are selling Katsidis way too short, he showed some inexperience against Earl but overall he was mightily impressive, he's a destroyer. I think this is another potential fight of the year baby, but I'm going for a Guzman UD. Maybe Guzman can coax EM out of retirement if he wins this, that would be a beauty.

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It's a big step up for Katsidis no doubt, you are right nobody should sell him short and you have to swim with the big fish at some point in your career. This will be a great fight!

Guzman is old school. He will fight anyone. I respect that.

Whats good my people at Saddos....

Your boy CutMeMick has just finished buying ringside seats to "Katsidis vs. Guzman' 8)
Very thankful that this year is turning out to be a really fun year for me. I've already done the whole concert thing and it's cool and all but to me theres nothing like beeing ringside at a boxing event....

So with that being said heres hoping I can bring you guys another 'Exclusive' ringside photo gallery of the event like the one I did for
"Marquez vs. Vasquez" incase you missed it here it is... check it out ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,43924.0.html

Can't wait really, and wheres my patna' KlitschkoFan whos the only other Katsidis fan I know of here? Talk to me....

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Whats good my people at Saddos....

Your boy CutMeMick has just finished buying ringside seats to "Katsidis vs. Guzman' 8)
Very thankful that this year is turning out to be a really fun year for me. I've already done the whole concert thing and it's cool and all but to me theres nothing like beeing ringside at a boxing event....

So with that being said heres hoping I can bring you guys another 'Exclusive' ringside photo gallery of the event like the one I did for
"Marquez vs. Vasquez" incase you missed it here it is... check it out ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,43924.0.html

Can't wait really, and wheres my patna' KlitschkoFan whos the only other Katsidis fan I know of here? Talk to me....

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Yeah boy, I been taking notice of Katsidis since he beat Swan in only his second pro fight to win the Aussie LW title. But I really started following him after his stoppage of Kinuthia who had just fought 12 rds with L. Ndou.

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Whats good my people at Saddos....

Your boy CutMeMick has just finished buying ringside seats to "Katsidis vs. Guzman' 8)
Very thankful that this year is turning out to be a really fun year for me. I've already done the whole concert thing and it's cool and all but to me theres nothing like beeing ringside at a boxing event....

So with that being said heres hoping I can bring you guys another 'Exclusive' ringside photo gallery of the event like the one I did for
"Marquez vs. Vasquez" incase you missed it here it is... check it out ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,43924.0.html

Can't wait really, and wheres my patna' KlitschkoFan whos the only other Katsidis fan I know of here? Talk to me....

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Yeah boy, I been taking notice of Katsidis since he beat Swan in only his second pro fight to win the Aussie LW title. But I really started following him after his stoppage of Kinuthia who had just fought 12 rds with L. Ndou.

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You sir get :coolclick: #109 on me and welcome aboard the 'Katsidis Express' 8)
Kid looks really good in the ring but I will say he needs to control himself a bit more I like his aggressive styel but if he can add control to it, then it would be even more effective IMO.

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Whats good my people at Saddos....

Your boy CutMeMick has just finished buying ringside seats to "Katsidis vs. Guzman' 8)
Very thankful that this year is turning out to be a really fun year for me. I've already done the whole concert thing and it's cool and all but to me theres nothing like beeing ringside at a boxing event....

So with that being said heres hoping I can bring you guys another 'Exclusive' ringside photo gallery of the event like the one I did for
"Marquez vs. Vasquez" incase you missed it here it is... check it out ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,43924.0.html

Can't wait really, and wheres my patna' KlitschkoFan whos the only other Katsidis fan I know of here? Talk to me....

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Yeah boy, I been taking notice of Katsidis since he beat Swan in only his second pro fight to win the Aussie LW title. But I really started following him after his stoppage of Kinuthia who had just fought 12 rds with L. Ndou.

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You sir get :coolclick: #109 on me and welcome aboard the 'Katsidis Express' 8)
Kid looks really good in the ring but I will say he needs to control himself a bit more I like his aggressive styel but if he can add control to it, then it would be even more effective IMO.

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Have to return the favor in 24 as already click ya, but your right he needs to control himself, that's why he got caught against Earl. Up to that point he was dominating!!!