Re: Another Question Who Is Best Defensive Fighter Of All Time
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he was off balance against kelley!
Exactly!
If there's one common trait that all the great defensive fighters share, it's phenomenal balance. Naz's balance was consistently awful, I don't see how anyone can dispute this. Any cleanly landed punch could either knock him down or send him flailing.
I wouldn't even rank Hamed among the top 15-20 defensive fighters of this decade, let alone all-time.
his balance was not awful!to throw the punches he did from the angles he did takes exceptional balance.In his first 25 pro fights he barely ever got hit,then he changed his style (and trainer) and became far more hittable,culmulating in his defeat to MAB, a defeat he would not have suffered if he'd stayed with Ingle
Ya, it was all Emmanuel Steward's fault.
The difference in results after the first 25 fights might have something to do with the fact that he started fighting good fighters.
damn,you're just too good.it was all naz's fault.it really was,he wasted his talent.also can you not see the obvious change in his style once he left ingle?and that that change would make him more hittable?
I know you're being sarcastic, but is it so wrong to believe that a fighter's loss was actually HIS fault? Have we gone so far with these lame modern day excuses that this is now a strange concept?
Thank you.
Hamed didn't lose to Barrera because he changed his style, or because he left his genius trainer, etc.
He lost because Barrera was BETTER.
If all Hamed had to do to be the best was switch back to his old style or get away from Steward, then he would have done that. Instead, he ran away from the sport and spent the last 5 years eating cheeseburgers. What does that tell you?
did you sc me?you B******
If by "SC", you mean sad click, then no, it wasn't me. I come here to discuss boxing, not to sad click Hamed fanboys.
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im not a hamed fan boy,holy shit!i just said he had a decent defense for the most part.not the best!and he deserved to lose against MAB.done
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To be fair I got my hands on a Prince Career set and the guy had some amazing reflexes. He could avoid a punch, no question.
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To be fair I got my hands on a Prince Career set and the guy had some amazing reflexes. He could avoid a punch, no question.
Not that amazing.
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Burn. However reflexes aren't everything because once Haseem would lean back he was screwed whereas WHitaker, Mayweather, Jones in their prime could all recover once they were in that position. THere is no question all three had better defense than Haseem. If Roy Jones Jr. actually used defense as opposed to reflexes I would say he by far has the best defense.
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Re: Another Question Who Is Best Defensive Fighter Of All Time
Willy Pepp
Muhammed Ali
Gene Tunney
Pernell Whitaker=a master of defense
There are others but their careers are still going. One that wasn't mentioned was the late Floyd Patterson who had a chin made of china and he fought everybody. Plus he had a great deal of speed. The only problem is that he would have made a great cruiser weight. He was a small heavyweight and everyone else was bigger especially today. The best example of that was Klitskho over Byrd. Floyd was also the first two time heavyweight champ undisputed and no alphabet soup.
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Willy Pepp
Muhammed Ali
Gene Tunney
Pernell Whitaker=a master of defense
There are others but their careers are still going. One that wasn't mentioned was the late Floyd Patterson who had a chin made of china and he fought everybody. Plus he had a great deal of speed. The only problem is that he would have made a great cruiser weight. He was a small heavyweight and everyone else was bigger especially today. The best example of that was Klitskho over Byrd. Floyd was also the first two time heavyweight champ undisputed and no alphabet soup.
Wouldn't mention Floyd Patterson wasn't he the most knocked down Heavyweight champion ever ??
