it's time the constitution was changed. Laws are repealed so why is the fucking constitution so fucking untouchable? There should be no right to bear arms, no freedom of speech, etc. All these "freedoms" and "rights" are a joke.
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it's time the constitution was changed. Laws are repealed so why is the fucking constitution so fucking untouchable? There should be no right to bear arms, no freedom of speech, etc. All these "freedoms" and "rights" are a joke.
For what it's worth I've ran into some hard core guys that live in the Hills.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Down to scrap and all those fuckers even had tapes of themselves robbing stores.
I understand what your saying BUT thats not necessairly true in order to WANT to survive you don't have to come from some ghetto place all you need is the WANT/WILL to see another day.
Pardon me professor.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
My scencerest apologies for saying other wise and thinking different from you.
I've NEVER studied Criminology but I do know that in order to survive you don't need to be hard or have lived a rough life all you need to be is scared that your gonna die and you might not see your family one more day. That fear that goes through you in that moment in time IS stronger then any sh*t! one might have gone through before.
k LETS AGREE ITS A COMBO OF WILL/ENVIRONMENT THEN K MI HERMANO? :-*Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
....you give someone a gun and I don't care where you are from dude! What you do in those situations is instinctual and not learned in school or on the fucking streets....and it doesn't matter where you grew up.....you hear/see gunfire and you run.....that's as simple as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Trying to attack a guy with a gun is pretty fucking stupid....unless of course you catch him reloading
and the death toll is up to 33 (including the gunman)
This is awful. Thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families. It is disturbing to me that their can be such monsters walking around with us...So senseless
CLASSY! :appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
The BBC site says the death toll is 31 now! :o
Fucking senseless, but why is it ALWAYS in America?
There's got to be something collectively wrong with the way society is over there. It seems like half of all youth fuckups live in the US. The other half are fucking youth sandniggers and live in Britain and the US.
I thank God I live in a tiny little seaside retirement town that is about as sheltered a place on Earth that you could live in
Imagine how many fire arms are in circulation in the US (legally and illegally)..?
Way beyond the point of no return gunwise so i don't see they'll ever stamp this sort of crime out.
It's mad for us Brits when something like this happens.."Oh you f*cked my Girl?"......"BANG" ???
It's some time since I read such cack in a thread, I won't even start however, prepare yourself, I agree with Lyle.
There's always been spree killing nutters who either end up shooting themselves of death by cop so you learn very little about their psychology and what finally pushed them over the edge and there is little you can do to stop it. I even heard some clown suggest students should carry guns in class, ::** yeah great idea, hormonely unstable kids in a classroom with guns, nice one brainiac.
"Your Homeworks late again boy,im giving you a detention"
"Bang" ;D
The gunman turned out to be a South Korean on a student Visa at the school. So I dont think the "American youth" holds any water with this one. I heard that he left a disturbing note hopefully we will learn more in the next couple of days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Spot on TyBuff. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TyBuff
Well, most likley the American youth is inncocent, but there is that slim chance that he was hounded and teased by the American youth until he went "South Korean" on their asses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyBuff
The gunman... Cho Seung-hui.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._070417_sp.jpg
Cho Seung-hui, the man police say carried out America's deadliest massacre, kept himself to himself.
"He was a loner," said Larry Hincker, spokesman for Virginia Tech university.
But details are gradually beginning to emerge about the 23-year-old South Korean, who was in the final year of an English degree at the university.
His creative writing was apparently so disturbing that his teacher referred him to the university's counselling service for help.
Professor Carolyn Rude, chairwoman of the university's English department, told the AP news service she did not personally know Cho but that the director of creative writing described him as "troubled".
He had been referred for counselling, but it was unclear if or when this had taken place and what the outcome had been.
"There was some concern about him," Ms Rude said.
"Sometimes, in creative writing, people reveal things and you never know if it's creative or if they're describing things, if they're imagining things or just how real it might be. But we're all alert to not ignore things like this."
Resident alien
Cho lived on the university campus, in a dormitory called Harper Hall.
"There was some concern about him"
Carolyn Rude
English department
Immigration records show that he was born in South Korea on 18 January 1984 and had moved to the US in 1992, when he was eight.
Cho had resident alien status, and had last renewed his green card in October 2003. However he is thought to have also retained his South Korean citizenship.
According to the Washington Post, his parents live in Fairfax County, an affluent suburb of Washington DC, just outside Arlington and Alexandria.
Cho reportedly left behind a "disturbing note" following the first killings of the morning, but the contents of this have not been revealed.
Reports say that Cho's face was badly damaged when he killed himself, but he has been positively identified by fingerprints and immigration records.
not to talk shiiiiiit or be overly generalizing/stereotypical but Korean parents tend to beat the sh*t out of their kids and abuse them not only physically, but more so IMO WORSE mentally. so im pretty sure this guy had alot of BS instilled on him from his parents growing up as a kid. to break down his mental disorders the guy was a loner, stalker, his creative writings were so disturbing the prof had to send him to seek help? im sorry but HELLO WARNING SIGNS UP THE ASSSSSS HERE.
i hate to say it being API myself, but i tend not to hang out or associate with koreans at all. when in LA i never even party in K-TOWN when all my homiez wanna roll there. something about those people really doesnt vibe well with me :-\
colleges and universities really need to get involve and reach out to their students to prevent this shiiiiit from happening again. there was several WARNING SIGNS that the faculty staff knew about clearly and did not to shiiiiiiiit about.
thats the difference from a good TEACHER and a teacher who's just there to collect a check at the end of the day ::**
i remember having profs in college who i just wanted to KTFO cause they didnt know shiiit nor did they care to relate or even listen to us students
then you had the profs who really were there to educate you on the REAL LIFE, they gave you their personal home #'s to call any time of the day if you had questions or needed help or just needed someone to talk to. those are the ones you actually LEARN something from. the ones that can really open your eyes and make a difference and you can even remember what they taught you.
Anyone read his little play on www.thesmokinggun.com ????
This cat was FUCKED UP!!!!!
I dont understand that after the first shooting,there was a 2hour gap until the next shooting and no one did anything! Anyone know why he did it?>
Ok bilbo i'll break down the problems with american youth (and america in general) to the best of my ability. There is so much political correctiveness going on that if you're not rich or have connections your view will be voided and it will feel like you have no say in the world. I went to school with a kid whose parents sued him up to my grade and into every honor class and everything else. Every other kid would have to earn that stuff but no his parents checkbooks got him what he wanted. To a point it is more socially acceptable in america to be a killer than it is to express your point of view in an argument because god forbid you say something that jeese and al dont like they'll politically blacklist you and any chance you have at a career is down the toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Then theres this horrible emo music. All the girls look like guys and all the guys weigh 110 pounds and they cry themselves to sleep everynight because their rich parents wont buy them a video game or some shit. We're becoming such wimps in this country that we can't even take critism. When i was picked on in school i punched the guy in the face and that was the end of that. Nowadays you either file law suits against them or shoot them. We're not even allowed to play tag in school anymore because meth addicted soccer moms dont want their child (who they have no idea who the father is and they dont care because they're sleeping with their 16 yr old neighbor anyway) to get injured but then again they hope it happens so they can get rich quick without having to work.
You're only given freedom of speech if the minorites think its ok for you to say. They don't want equality anymore they want minority supremacy. A couple islamic extremists (not regular peace loving muslims) are allowed to honor a group that has devoted themselves to kill americans and they're allowed to wear bands on their arms at graduation ceremoneies in schools (this is a cobflict of church and state. They can celebrate radical islam but we cant have the 10 commandments in a couthouse ??? )
I dunno americas going to hell. I'm thinking of moving to poland and getting my names original spelling back.
From the sounds of it,America needs to sort out it's own country first before it can "spread democracy and bring freedom to the opressed peoples of the world" ::** ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
listen i did not want the war in iraq i don't wanna hear about how much freedom we're bringing people that i will never meet when i gotta drive to down town pittsburgh and see homeless people walk the streets. But when you turn on a political program it consists of this "The world is heating up and global flooding will be a problem" I know how to swim and fish if you dont it sucks to be you "The war in iraq is working and it was worth the effort" Like i said before, i could careless about these people until the terrorists and homeless people HERE are taken care of.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Atleast we aren't being completely controlled by muslims (yet) like the uk is. And for the record you're politicians jumped into this mess head first right behind ours. It doesn't matter what we think is right, We dont get to give the orders.
I hate how the news is trying to make this a political argument ......guns are neutral! If a bad person has one then guns are bad and if a good person has one then guns are good.
If everyone carried guns, then yes there would be more accidents but less intentional violent crimes
Gun control won't solve SHIT when it comes to these kind of events....people find ways to hurt people
As I read your post it reminded me of this....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcVwDw4YLE
:appl:Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
oh yeah sorry bilbo i forgot to add something to my previous post. Everytime a kid here gets upset their mommys get them on pills so they think the world is a happy place and when it turns out to be shitty they shoot people.
further more i dont know how many of you actually went to college, but college campuses arent exactly the safest place period.
college campuses in america have some of the highest rates of:
-vandalism
-stolen cars
-burgulary
-arson
-sexual harassment
-stalking
-rape
-drug trafficing
Fucken bullshit. Shit brought me down a ton, I love Virginia. Got an uncle that got his engineering degree from Va Tech 5 years ago, went to class everyday for years in that building. He's kind of shaken up from what my dad says but I didn't pry.
Many prayers to all those affected. Go Hokies.
this is gonna sound WACK but u all notice how all the large scale terrorist like acts( i know this korean dude was no terrorist even tho he did commit a terrorist act) always happen on the EAST coast?????
this big time sh*t never happens on the west coast for some reason always the east coast over and over again unfortunately :(
well since before america was a country all the shit went down on the east coast. Indian invasions (lol not sure how someone can invade their own territory but i was at a loss of words), the revolution, the civil war, i dunno. You forgot about pearl harbor. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
They say on the news, that he always listened to Collective Soul's big hit "Shine".......I guess he was confused, I thought emo pricks usually listened to The Cure or OMD or some other bullshit.
Anyone read his one act bullcrap play yet??? I did, it's hella fucked up....like Quentin Tarintino on PCP
Its reads like some juvenile nutcase's twisted fantasy wank to me, not surprised he killed a load of people after reading this.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...071vtech1.html
pretty shit considering he was studying english. I know people who've had brain damage from doing too much acid who can form more coherent sentences that this fucking fruitcake.
Oh yeah and the gun laws in America are fucking stupid. I dont give a shit about wether its sacred to the american constitution or not, all I know is if this guy had no access to a gun and went on a knife rampage he'd have killed nowhere near as many people as he ended up doing. One of the lads I live with at uni is from detroit, and I was asking him what it was like compared to salford, a notoriously shitty and poor part of Manchester. He said it was very similar economically and socially, working class and post-industrial, but because there are guns so readily available in the US compared to over here its 10 times more dangerous out on the streets. The fact there are more murders in a WEEK in Detroit than there are over the course of a whole YEAR in Manchester, two cities of comparable size and economic position, says enough.
its not the guns thats the problem, its the crack the people smoke before they use the guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sovereign
That gun wielding nutter could never have got a gun in his home country. Gun control can control and have an influence!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
America is fucked up. People in European countries dont feel the need to have a gun so to have a gun in the home to protect oneself is not there andtherefore guncrime is lower...maybe im simplifying things but thats generally correct...
This guy bought a gun with ease...and went through with whatever strong emotions he was going with...
Thats not the way a society should be tolerant of...
Guns are bullshit...
First of all the kid needs to quit being such a whining bitch about his life and his imaginary girl friend (probably had such a self-esteem issue that he probably didnt even imagine a hot one). People get guns in south korea if they can't im sure their neighbor to the north would gladly supply them guns to shoot at someone in south korea. If you want something and you have the money you can get it in the world someway somewhere somehow. If you really want to stop all violence in the world, set-up these rules:
No body can wear clothes or grow long hair because they could choke people with it
no ones allowed to work because the stress might make their emotionally fragile ass freak out
no driving (you could hit a squirrel)
no use of any household chemicals because they could be made into weapons
no drugs because the minority of people who use them give them a bad image
everyone must become the same color because looking different might offend some people
everyone must have their arms and legs cut off so they cant hurt each other
no use of eating utensils, we'd have to eat like pigs with our faces in our food (drowning in soup will become a leading cause of death)
everyone must be brainwashed into thinking the world is a happy place
there must be no religion because different views would provoke torso wrestling
scientists must find away to fuse all of the land in the world together because if we live on different continents we would hate each other
everybody must act exactly the same so that there is no difference between one person and another
and finally the mike tyson vs buster douglas fight must be ruled a ko for tyson
And that is the only way you'll stop violence. i'll give you a 120 year head start hopefully you convince many generations of your family to continue this effort and GO!
You are talking of societies and cultures you have no idea of. I am an Englishman living within Korea and I have to say that the crime is wonderfully low. There are no guns in obvious use. Knives get used on occasion but not enough to shake up society or kill 32 in 1 great helping!! :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
You have no wordly perspective with which to base your limited little rant ;)
Though you are quite funny! :)
there is nothing that could happen to this country anymore that would shake it. this isnt the first school shooting and it wont be the last. How much diversity do you see over in korea? I bet its overwhelmingly korean i'm gonna say atleast 95%. Its not like that in america. you've got people from every country in the world trying to make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Tell 100 puzzle makers to each make a piece to a puzzle without telling them what overall picture you want. don't tell them the size or shape requirements because they aren't set just tell them to make a piece. Take those pieces together and try to make anything that even resembles a picture or coherently recognizable shape. I think we do pretty damn good given our circumstances. Korea couldn't handle everytype of person and culture in the world living side by side neither could any country in the middle east. F*** they can't even get along with themselves and they're all the same race and culture.