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05-02-2007, 01:31 AM
CFH

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Ohh.. Hackey not sure if its the same dude ..

But that reminds me of oba carr's trainer.. He was banned from working the corner in most states for removing padding from his fighters glove which resulted in fatality..

What was his trainers name though..

Panama lewis? Was that him? I know it was panama something?!
Peace

Yeah, it was Panama Lewis, who is one of, if not the, biggest piece of shit in the boxing world (and that's saying something!)
Apparently he's only been banned in certain areas, like you said. I actually saw him on TV not too long ago, wearing that stupid fucking hat of his... As you can probably tell, I absolutely loathe the bastard.

Since we're on the subject there is NO DOUBT in my mind that Lewis gave Pryor some type of substance in that bottle.

Judging by his track record, there's no reason to believe he didn't. Which is a shame because Pryor was a great fighter and one crazy MoFo, and this hurts his legacy.
05-02-2007, 01:35 AM
Tito BHB

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Ohh.. Hackey not sure if its the same dude ..

But that reminds me of oba carr's trainer.. He was banned from working the corner in most states for removing padding from his fighters glove which resulted in fatality..

What was his trainers name though..

Panama lewis? Was that him? I know it was panama something?!
Peace

Yeah, it was Panama Lewis, who is one of, if not the, biggest piece of shit in the boxing world (and that's saying something!)
Apparently he's only been banned in certain areas, like you said. I actually saw him on TV not too long ago, wearing that stupid fucking hat of his... As you can probably tell, I absolutely loathe the bastard.

Since we're on the subject there is NO DOUBT in my mind that Lewis gave Pryor some type of substance in that bottle.

I never heard of this incident?
Would you tell me what had supposedly gone down?
05-02-2007, 01:43 AM
CFH

Re: Most Deaths?

I'm not sure about the rules for posting links, so if this is not allowed I appologize in advance.
Here's a story about Aaron Pryor, the issue with Panama Lewis and the black bottle is covered somewhere near the middle.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=7068&more=1
05-02-2007, 01:48 AM
Tito BHB

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by CFH

I'm not sure about the rules for posting links, so if this is not allowed I appologize in advance.
Here's a story about Aaron Pryor, the issue with Panama Lewis and the black bottle is covered somewhere near the middle.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=7068&more=1

Sweet read !! Cc brother
05-02-2007, 01:52 AM
CutMeMick

Re: Most Deaths?

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I never heard of this incident?

:o
WHAT!!

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Would you tell me what had supposedly gone down?

Well for starters heres what happened in one of the best/greatest fights of all time will forever give it a question mark?
Arguello at the time of the fight was beating Pryor to the punch and was getting the better share of the punches. If I'm not mistaken in the break of the 9th round Panama Lewis instructs one of his corner men to give him the bottle "THE ONE HE MIXED" well you don't mix water with water.
Lewis stated that he said those words to just give Pryor some type of mental edge to make him think he was suplementing him with some type of substance to give him energy. Pryor comes out of his corner with flying colors and as fresh as a daisy. For the following rounds Arguello lands some of the most brutal punches he had ever landed in his career at one point and this I can sware on I thought Pryors head would snap off. But Pryor didn't even blink took all the shots for at least 3 rds.
Heres a short video on that incident:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/807031517...e_and_rematch/

Also suprisingly enough the comission forgot to take post urine samples from both fighters. How this happens is beyond me.

Tito_BHB heres the fight incase you haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39xb9Slp2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfqeglaR1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85rFHEE7cic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWW9g0WOYOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ68emTvpQ8
05-02-2007, 01:57 AM
Tito BHB

Re: Most Deaths?

Ive seen highlights of the fight before and remember checking it because one of the forum mentioned about thinking his head would snap off..And your right..He barely blinked cos i was completely bemused as to what people were talking about..

I find it hard to keep with the more underground old school stuff personally..Lol

I kinda pride myself on bieng big on new school and knowing my generation! :P

Cc in 24 for the fight bro!
05-02-2007, 02:03 AM
FBEAR

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Yea odd question... But to attempt to answer it, I would doubt that any fighter has killed more than one opponent in the ring.. At least in relatively modern times.. Could be wrong.

I think Max Baer might of bludgeoned 2 guys to death in a Boxing ring

That is correct. Also a Cnadain beat two guys in a row in the 70's or 80's and they both died...I think.

The Canadian you are thinking of is Gaetan Hart who ko'd Cleveland Denny on the undercard of Duran-Leonard I. Denny suffered a brain injury and dies a couple weeks later. There may have been another injury but no death that I know of.

I remember at the time there were issues about the wrapping of Hart's hands, I do not know if illegal wrapping was proven. Also, I recall comments by Aaron Pryor saying he was going make Hart pay for what happened to Denny. Pryor of course cleaned hiis clock.
05-02-2007, 02:23 AM
tedsares

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Gaetan Hart
05-02-2007, 02:42 AM
BoomBoom

Re: Most Deaths?

Is Panama Lewis still training Sultan Imbomivog??
05-02-2007, 02:43 AM
Kel

Re: Most Deaths?

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There was a young fighter who had his face hammered to pieces a few years back. It turned out that the opponent had no stuffing in his gloves. A while after the kid took his own life. His father said that he had never recovered after the fight. I'm sure somebody on here knows what I'm talking about. In that case it was pretty much murder. GBH at least.

God yeah I remember that. One of his corner men went over to congratulate the guy and grabbed his gloves to find he could feel his knuckles through them.
05-02-2007, 02:48 AM
Tito BHB

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There was a young fighter who had his face hammered to pieces a few years back. It turned out that the opponent had no stuffing in his gloves. A while after the kid took his own life. His father said that he had never recovered after the fight. I'm sure somebody on here knows what I'm talking about. In that case it was pretty much murder. GBH at least.

God yeah I remember that. One of his corner men went over to congratulate the guy and grabbed his gloves to find he could feel his knuckles through them.

Thats mental!
05-02-2007, 02:56 AM
FBEAR

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by zzz

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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Yea odd question... But to attempt to answer it, I would doubt that any fighter has killed more than one opponent in the ring.. At least in relatively modern times.. Could be wrong.

I think Max Baer might of bludgeoned 2 guys to death in a Boxing ring

That is correct. Also a Cnadain beat two guys in a row in the 70's or 80's and they both died...I think.

The Canadian you are thinking of is Gaetan Hart who ko'd Cleveland Denny on the undercard of Duran-Leonard I. Denny suffered a brain injury and dies a couple weeks later. There may have been another injury but no death that I know of.

I remember at the time there were issues about the wrapping of Hart's hands, I do not know if illegal wrapping was proven. Also, I recall comments by Aaron Pryor saying he was going make Hart pay for what happened to Denny. Pryor of course cleaned hiis clock.

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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

Gaetan Hart

Actually the fight before the Denny Fight saw Gaetan Hart leave a fighter by the name of Ralph Racine with brain damage.
05-02-2007, 04:09 AM
THE THIRD MAN

Re: Most Deaths?

Australian Light- Welterweight Hector Thompson who fought both Roberto Duran and Antonio Cervantes in the 70's unfortunately killed two guys in the ring. He was a heavy puncher and gave Duran a hell of a fight in 1973. It affected his career and i'm sure at times he was pulling punches in some of his fights after the deaths.
05-02-2007, 04:14 AM
Cortez The Killer

Re: Most Deaths?

Back in 1985 Ivan Drago brutally killed Apollo Creed in the ring. Perhaps the most disturbing thing is how little remorse he showed afterwards.
05-02-2007, 04:51 AM
Kel

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by hackey100

There was a young fighter who had his face hammered to pieces a few years back. It turned out that the opponent had no stuffing in his gloves. A while after the kid took his own life. His father said that he had never recovered after the fight. I'm sure somebody on here knows what I'm talking about. In that case it was pretty much murder. GBH at least.

God yeah I remember that. One of his corner men went over to congratulate the guy and grabbed his gloves to find he could feel his knuckles through them.

Thats mental!

The poor guys face was black and blue, they could not understand why he was in so much trouble so early on. Like I said though, one of his team grabbed his gloves and started shouting at the ref and it all became clear. I think it went the distance too, 12 rounds of bare fisted blows. Just awful.
05-02-2007, 11:38 PM
Cortez The Killer

Re: Most Deaths?

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by Kel

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There was a young fighter who had his face hammered to pieces a few years back. It turned out that the opponent had no stuffing in his gloves. A while after the kid took his own life. His father said that he had never recovered after the fight. I'm sure somebody on here knows what I'm talking about. In that case it was pretty much murder. GBH at least.

God yeah I remember that. One of his corner men went over to congratulate the guy and grabbed his gloves to find he could feel his knuckles through them.

Thats mental!

The poor guys face was black and blue, they could not understand why he was in so much trouble so early on. Like I said though, one of his team grabbed his gloves and started shouting at the ref and it all became clear. I think it went the distance too, 12 rounds of bare fisted blows. Just awful.

Thats crazy. Does anyone remember the names of the fighters? Charges shouldve been pressed against the guy with no stuffing in his gloves, what a coward.

It is really suprising that no one noticed this...the ref, none of the audience, I think I would be able to tell the difference the first punch.
05-03-2007, 12:01 AM
meowza

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Originally Posted by dasamm

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by Kel

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Originally Posted by hackey100

There was a young fighter who had his face hammered to pieces a few years back. It turned out that the opponent had no stuffing in his gloves. A while after the kid took his own life. His father said that he had never recovered after the fight. I'm sure somebody on here knows what I'm talking about. In that case it was pretty much murder. GBH at least.

God yeah I remember that. One of his corner men went over to congratulate the guy and grabbed his gloves to find he could feel his knuckles through them.

Thats mental!

The poor guys face was black and blue, they could not understand why he was in so much trouble so early on. Like I said though, one of his team grabbed his gloves and started shouting at the ref and it all became clear. I think it went the distance too, 12 rounds of bare fisted blows. Just awful.

Thats crazy. Does anyone remember the names of the fighters? Charges shouldve been pressed against the guy with no stuffing in his gloves, what a coward.

It is really suprising that no one noticed this...the ref, none of the audience, I think I would be able to tell the difference the first punch.

The fighter with the stripped gloves was Luis Resto.
He served 2 and a half years in prison for assualt I believe.
The poor victim was Billy Collins Jr.

One of the blackest eyes the sport has ever faced.
05-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Cortez The Killer

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Thanks for the info meowza. So that is why panama lewis can only train overseas.

Anyways, cc.
05-08-2007, 06:01 AM
Rick_Rack

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8) God why dont you guys let this thread go away now! Its a messed up question anyways! 8)
05-08-2007, 06:08 AM
CutMeMick

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8) God why dont you guys let this thread go away now! Its a messed up question anyways! 8)

What?
Rick_Rack no one had responded to it since the 2nd of May if anyone didn't let this thread go away it was you by replying to it on the 7th of May. ???
05-08-2007, 06:15 AM
Rick_Rack

Re: Most Deaths?

8) Well thanks again CutMeMick so now im the first poster? Is that right? I dont think so but Im going to look right now! Know I didnt start this girlface did BHB /HBH whoever that fag is started up everyone. Not the Rick_Rack

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