oscar won't get down to 147.
hatton won't go up to 154.
this fight won't happen.
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oscar won't get down to 147.
hatton won't go up to 154.
this fight won't happen.
8) ds91 I couldnt agree whith you more. 8)
Oh please...Hatton aint shit @ 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
He needs to stick to beer & whatever hodge podge he crams down his trap & that's that.
Oscar would eat him for lunch...unless Hatton ate Oscar first.
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Originally Posted by ds91
They both say they want to fight so i see no reason this can't happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Rick_Rack
By Graham Shaw www.skysports.com
Ricky Hatton is dreaming of a megabucks showdown with Oscar De La Hoya once the 'Golden Boy' is through with Floyd Mayweather Jr on Saturday night.
Both De La Hoya and Mayweather have hinted they could retire after their superfight here at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, but the two men have also been quoted as saying they'd like one more bout, against the undefeated Mancunian light-welterweight king.
Hatton, given the choice, says he'd plump for a meeting with the 'Golden Boy'.
Earlier this year De La Hoya said he'd be happy to move back down to welterweight if Hatton moves up, a prospect that intrigues the British superstar.
He said: “I don't think they have made their minds up yet about retirement. They talk about retiring but the next minute I read on the internet that they want one more fight and they'd both like it to be against me.
“I think they've seen my fights. They see what I bring to the table as far as the whole package is concerned, in terms of fan base as well. I think the fact they're considering one more fight and they want it to be against me speaks volumes for myself.
“If I had the choice I think I'd like to fight De La Hoya. He's just a massive massive name. He's not just a modern-day legend, looking at all the world titles he's won, he's a legend. He's said he'd come down to welterweight to fight me if I move up.”
Hatton himself is preparing for his own Las Vegas superfight, against Mexico's Jose Luis Castillo on June 23. And he's full of confidence as he starts the countdown to what should be a classic confrontation.
“The preparation is going absolutely superbly, things couldn't be going better. Before the Urango fight, due to TV dates, I ended up having eight months off and that was disappointing. Obviously I put a lot of weight on and that made the job a lot harder.
“After the Urango fight I only had eight weeks off and because of that I think I'm really going to shine against Castillo.
“I don't think my last three opponents have enabled me to look my best. Maussa for example, I'm not sure what style he comes under. Collazo was a very slick southpaw and Urango was a southpaw as well, and they're never ideal. He was very compact and very negative.
“I think someone like Castillo, who will stand toe-to-toe with me in a slugfest, will help me to shine. I still feel I can improve on what I've done already. I think in my last three fights the results have been better than the performances.
“I went off the boil before the Tszyu fight, going six rounds with Dennis Pedersen and 12 rounds with Wilfredo Vilches. On those performances you wouldn't have given me a prayer against Tszyu.
“But then when the big name came along I raised my game, and I just can't wait for Castillo, I can't wait. I was happy fighting world champions but now I'm fighting pound-for-pounders.”
Castillo warmed up for his clash with the Hitman by fighting Herman Ngoudjo on the same Vegas bill as Hatton v Urango.
He struggled to a points win that night, but Hatton says there are valid reasons for that performance and expects a mighty challenge next month.
“I think Castillo had been off for a long while and it was his first fight at light-welterweight. And they handed him a fella who had only 15 fights under his belt, a real novice. With that in mind I could understand why he was laboured.
“I think sometimes you find that little bit extra when you're in with a big name. I think I was a little bit of a victim of that against Urango. And I think Castillo was a victim of it against a 15-fight novice. Castillo nearly caught a cold because of it. He probably took him a little bit lightly.”
But before that massive night against Castillo Hatton will settle back and watch De La Hoya and Mayweather do battle.
He's picking the 'Golden Boy' to prevail, believing he'll have too much strength and experience for Mayweather.
“Floyd Mayweather I think has unbelievable talent. But the biggest fights he's been in were against Gatti, against Baldomir and against Corrales. And Zab Judah had seen better days when he fought him.
“When you compare that to the fights De La Hoya has had against Vargas, against Mosley, against Hopkins and all the other big names, I think that will stand Oscar in good stead. Oscar is the bigger fighter and he's not exactly slow.
“I think Mayweather has been very negative in his last two fights against Baldomir and Judah. The fights were quite dull to be honest.
“I think if Mayweather is going to win the fight he'll have to do it in a very negative way. Personally I think Oscar will win, I think he'll use his size and reach.
“I see Mayweather has been doing a lot of talking and I think maybe he's a little bit nervous. But it's a fantastic match and you'd have to go a long way to find one better.”
It ain't right that your saying Hatton ain't shit at 147, he faught a champion (and a good one at that) on his debut and went up to 147 on 8 weeks notice, in his first top of the bill debut in USA, its not like Floyd Mayweather dipping his toe in against ex 140 man who is miles past his best, then faught another ex 140 man in Zab Judah. Mayweather outgrew his weight class, Hatton didn't. I think he deserves a little leway.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
yo, guys in the UK, all i remember about wembleyt is that there was a WWF PPV when i was a kid where british bulldoig did a match witgh bret hart and they sold the fuck out oft that place, and i rememneber it being big, but thats a not a soxccer stadium , right????
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cuz if its a soccer stadium thats intendsxse intense, otherwie otherwise thats still big in my memory but no azteca
No doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
8) He doest want Oscar he wants an easy pay day is what he wants. 8)
El Temible is el MAS MACHO all the way! O0Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
The old wembley held 80,000 and they tore it down, thats the one your talking about. The new Wembley is 90,000 capacity and the most expensive stadium ever built, it's absolutley incredible, every seat has a flawless view, and it has that cauldron feeling about it. They're gonna be using it for music events, rugby etc. but it's main use will be for football (soccer) but it looks perfect for Hatton v Oscar/Floyd IMO ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
I just cannot imagine Hatton: DLH ever happening. It just doesnt have any relevance.
Oscar has lost his 3rd fight in 4 and is a natural 154 punder and Hatton had a daliance at 147 and found the pressure too much and jumped back down quickly...
I cannot see their paths crossing...
May be the best until Jerry Jones Dallas Cowboys stadium becomes the stadium of all stadiums http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/. Enjoy the short run much like Hattons term...
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
c'mon miles... Oscar was 1 point off retaining his title in the last round against the number 1 pound for pound and yet you imply he is a loser? Ask yourself could anyone under 154 have done a better job?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Obviously he would have trouble coming down in weight but that is what makes it interesting and Ricky given more than 8 days to adjust would at very least make a decent welterweight.
I think it would be an interesting but cruel fight.
Hatton wants a payday, he doesn't really want Oscar. Especially at 147, or 154. Cannot see this fight ever happening though.
lol what a fucking loser :sadclick: you've turned fucking stadiums into USA vs UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
Now this is a Stadium!Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Talk about losers.... their is no mention of countries only state of the art stadiums. Scroll up and down and look for a reference to USA. Seems you need to stop jacking off while posting.
What's that then? Seems you need to read between the lines moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
Hello people, its pretty heated here so i gonna tread carefully ;)
The first point i want to raise is my beliefs on hattons 140/147 issue. I feel the hatton we all witnessed v Collazo was a poor representation of hattons potential as a welter. As a ricky fan i do not usually criticise Hitman but his preparation for that fight was irresponsible and unprofessional. I do believe hatton can be very competive at welter with a "few" lifestyle/attitude adjustments :)
A few members of the forum have questioned the significance of this bout. Well i feel thats fairly self explanatory. For Oscar his motivation would be the money and perhaps the closing of his career with a win over a recognised top ten p4p fighter. For Richard the fight would present an opporunity to silence the doubter and gain the prominance he yearns so badly. All IMO :)
And guys, jus chillax ;D
To be honest, this fight doesn't do that much for me. Floyds style allowed him to hang at 154...Ricky would get mullered...it'd be like ODH v Gatti all over again.
Possibly, but did anyone actually say it was at 154? In the unlikely event of this happening i believe they would implement a catch weight of 149/150????
No way Oscar fights a hair below 154. and by fight nite he would be at least 160.. I like Ricky alot but Delahoya would TKO him within 5. Oscar does very well when he dosent have to be the agressor, Ricky would be in front of Oscar catching bombs....Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
...did hatton already beat castillo ?? Cause i'm not even convinced he'll get past that hurdle
Good point :thumb: Castillo is no pushover. This will be a balls to the wall fight and I cant waitQuote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Yep this is all neither here nor there until June 24th, Ricky has far too much on his late at the minute, the thing that gives this fight a chance of is Oscar's desire to hold the highest attendance at a boxing match, the chance to fight in Britain, and his respect for Hatton as a fighter. In De La Hoya speak I think all that means "An easy payday against a guy who is a lot smaller than me, with about 90,000 people all paying to see it," ;D
By the way I don't think that'd be the case, if Hatton could survive past 6 rounds there's no doubt Oscar would be blowing out of his arse and I think Ricky would be far too much for him over the last six, he really isn't as bad as people think as a boxer, he has good movement, he is just made to look really bad by southpaws because he can't go to the body like he does and is always walking onto right hooks. Against orthodox fighters I think a lot of you americans will be really impressed, I reckon against Castillo he'll be spectacular, a lot more impressive than when he beat Kostya.
Thats a great post dan :) i totally agree and we all saw against Collazo that ricky can survive tough times without caving.
:coolclick: cheers pal I think the americans have yet to see the best of ricky hatton, they've seen all the qualities in him that on his top form he doesn't require because he's usually dishing out too much for the his opponent to show that ricky has a great chin and spirit ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I think DLH would be to good technically for Hatton! But I could definitely see this fight coming together if Hatton can get past Castillo. The money that it would generate almost demands it
Yup dan CC right back Hattons chin n spirit have yet to be displayed to the americans....as i believe is his boxing SKILL. as an am, in major comps ricky used to take "break" fights wher he would sit back use his skill n box, conserving his energy for the finals!!! And back then i remember being so impressed with his kinda old school skills and subtle defensive techniques. Best of hatton to come me thinks/hopes ;D
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
You are truly delusional if you think Collazo has anything close to the power and number of body shots that Castillo will give him and Oscar would just sit back and wait for Hatton to make a mistake to put him to sleep. ODLH is at his best when he does not have to be the aggressor. Talk you Sunday anything can happen that is why we watch all though some in here would have you thing the are the next coming of Nostradamus.
It would be a better match than mayweather-hatton. they have complimentry styles to me and i think they would both be at their best..
these are two of my most favorite boxers for their personalities in the ring and out.. i would have to see the castillo-hatton fight before i could see if hatton is on DLH's level though
they would have to meet at 147 and i think DLH is to big for that
I never actually said anything about Collazo punching hard...Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
I actually went to Wembley Stadium on Sunday and it's f*cking Amazing 8)
Absolutely massive and stunning stadium.
A Hatton fight their would be mind blowing!
Just comparing Collazo to JLC is a joke, the good thing is Castill may have aged ring wise very fast recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
well this isn't going to happen for a number of reasons, De La Hoya is not going to go to England to fight Hatton frankly because he's already at that point of his career that if you want to fight him you follow through with his demands, so yea that's a big reason, plus there is no way that this would be anywhere below 154, he's not going to go down to 147 much less to 140, and no matter at what weight IMO DLH would kill Hatton and he would beat him very very badly, this would be a slightly more competitive version of Mayorga/DLH, but i think DLH would either box the hell out of Hatton and stop him by knockdowns, or forced stoppage, or by cuts and swelling
SORRY MATE BUT YOUR WRONG ;)
ALL OVER THE BACKPAGES OF THE PAPERS THIS MORNING AND OSCAR WANTS THIS SO THEY COULD EASILY DO THIS AT A CATCHWEIGHT 8)
www.mirror.co.uk
RICKY HATTON will be offered a £30million super-fight against Oscar De La Hoya at the new Wembley Stadium if he beats Jose Luis Castillo here tonight.
De La Hoya, known as The Golden Boy, has told friends it is one of his last ambitions to fight Hatton at Wembley before he retires. And Hatton, who is being supported in Las Vegas by pal Wayne Rooney and a host of Premiership stars, is desperate to add another big name to his list of conquests.
Manchester City fan Hatton, who received a message of support from the club's potential new owner Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday, is quickly becoming one of boxing's most sought-after opponents.
Negotiations have not yet begun but it is thought that the fight would take place in September or October at welterweight, with Hatton moving up a division and De La Hoya moving down one.
Hatton's all-action style has already turned him into the leading boxing attraction in Britain and he is an outstanding ambassador for the sport.
But if he beats Castillo tonight and then inks a deal to face De La Hoya, it will turn him into one of the country's sporting superstars. Hatton is already one of the biggest draws in world boxing and nearly 10,000 British fight fans, including Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole and Wes Brown, have travelled to Las Vegas to see tonight's fight at the Thomas and Mack Center.
Rooney visited Hatton at his gym off the Las Vegas strip here on Wednesday and will carry Hatton's IBO world title belt into the ring.
"I'm really buzzing about it all because Ricky has become a great pal," said Rooney. "It's the first time in Vegas for me and Coleen and we are looking forward to the fight immensely.
"I'm incredibly proud of what Ricky has done and also to carry his belt into the ring. I know it will be one of the most fabulous experiences of my life."
News like this will make me root for Castillo even more. Hatton has no business getting into the ring with De La Hoya. Oscar would not go down to 140. Hell, he'd be hard pressed to go down to 147. Hatton has not proven SQUAT at 147. So what the hell's the point? I'd rather see someone like Floyd go down to some catch weight and fight Hatton. Either way, it's a sure loss for Hatton. I'd just rather not see it happen against the "Golden Boy."
If oscar wer to go down to 147 id favour most fighters to beat him. The weight loss would be far to gruelling on his aging body.
With hatton, a horrible weight drop like that and ricky's high pace, Oscar would wilt. It would be near a physical impossibility for him to go the distance, IMO
If you're right about Oscar wilting at 147, and I'm not quite so sure, then be assured that Oscar will not fight at 147. The fight would then be made at a higher weight...... say, 150-151. My point? That ol' Oscar NEVER gets himself in a position where he can lose. He made Floyd fight him at 154, way above Floyd's optimum fighting weight. Somehow it backfired, however, and Oscar still lost. Oscar is a calculating, smart, savvy guy. He will not fight Hatton at a weight where he is weight drained and set up for the kill. And if he did, it would be only the second miscalculation of his career. (Fighting Hopkins at 160 was his first).Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
I am a fan of Hatton and like watching his fights but I am sorry.....
For Hatton to meet DLH at 147 would be bad news for the hitman who was lucky to win his last visit to 147...at 154 DLH would slaughter him....Ricky is not exactly defensive minded and love him or hate him DLH can bang in close and WILL go to to toe if you want to...Too much power for Hatton to handle especially if DLH unloads on him
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