I've given you guys lots of info. ;) The key is to resist the forward and upward movement of the elbow through plyos.
I plan on taking some pics, just haven't had time yet.
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I've given you guys lots of info. ;) The key is to resist the forward and upward movement of the elbow through plyos.
I plan on taking some pics, just haven't had time yet.
So its the gluets then
yep.
sharla, can we see your gulets? 8)
Von honey, I'm all gluts - but I'm blonde too and taking a photo of my own arse for you is just too difficult!! No you'll just have to take pity on me and show me your invention out of the goodness of your heart.
:lol: you're alright Von
Q is Chris what did you show him to get the answer PMed to you personally eh?
Are you asking me if I had to show him my glutes? Frankly I don't swing that way. I guess what it came down to was good timing, and that he was so excited about the idea, and at first I wasn't buying it. Or maybe I did show him something-- something so awesome that I wouldn't trade for all the you-showing-me-something's in the world. You decide. ;)
Anyways, I'm not going to tell you. It's Von's baby so I'll leave it up to him. But I will tell you that it's awesomeness is in the fact that it's so simple. ;D
Right Von? 8)
That's absolutely right Chris.
Before I thought if this contraption, my jab had an impact force of a mere 129psi. Now, not even a week later, it measured in at 1768psi...enough to crush a man's skull (IF his head were prevented from moving backwards)
1768 psi in a week??? Cmon' the anticipation is killin me here Von Drago.
dude stop shitting us! I would become your apprentice, if you taught me to smash ones skull like a melon with just my jab.
Hahaha ok..., you could be the next biggest puncher since tyson, see you on HBO.
I'll post pics today. scouts on her.
I shouldn't even bother with you guys. Nobody but Chris seems to be appreciative around here.
WTF have YOU guys done for ME?
the one that goes around your bicep attaches behind you and as low as possible. This prevents the forwards and upwards motion of the elbow, thereby working the SHOULDER.
The one on the wrist attaches behind you and slightly downward. This prevents the upwards motion of the hand without encumbering the true jab mechanics, thereby working the tris and the shoulder. Alternatively, you can attach the wrist one to your back ankle and the elbow one to your elbow, connect them by a piece of byngee and this works well too, IF you don't have any other anchoring options.
You can do one at a time, or both, as I've shown in the last pic. This is the ultimate jab plyo. I'm contacting Grant Boxing tomorrow to propose a meeting of this little gem.
fair play von cc :appl:
thanks bro. cc back.
try this. it's simple as hell, but you'll see... it's KILLER.
I'll defintetely give this a go. Thanks von :thumb:
btw when you use it do you jab at full speed?
Well done Von, but its 30 years to late. cc
There's no reason why you shouldn't. This isn't an extra weight in your hand, therefore you don't run the risk of hyperextending your elbow and ruining your shoulder. If you want more of a challenge you can use thicker bungee cords, or add an additional bungee. Obviously if you want to make it easier on yourself you can use a thinner bungee cord, and alternate with and without the cord. Of course this could be used any elastic band, but it's more convenient with bungee cords, as it's already has a hook attached.Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoo_dude
As I was telling Von in the PM is that because of the downward pull it doesn't assist the movement that brings your hand back to the on guard position that you see with holding the cord in your hand. On the flipside it does the opposite, you're working against it as you punch and while you're trying to keep your hands up.
I've found when messing with it that there's a lot of useful set-ups. You can change the angle from where it's pulling from, and you can put the strap around different parts of your arm as the pictures were showing.
This is good for building up your shoulder strength/endurance, IMO better than dumbells, or at least a good supplement.
This can help make a better jab. You can do this along with other exercises such as plyometrics and regular calisthenics to work on strength and explosiveness in your arm. Plyometric-pushups will help work on the muscles that propell the arm, and exercises with medicine-ball would do the same.
This isn't to say that shoulder is the biggest factor in a jab, but it is a big part of it. The biggest thing is getting the whole body involved in it, stepping into it, shifting the weight and pivoting. Another point is that you don't always want to commit to your jab, because that will make you more susceptible to counters.
It's a good idea, but it only works if you use it, just like the jab it helps.
show me the one on the market and then I'll beleive you. ;) Everythnig is shit with them plastic handles that you hold in your hands.... nothing on the wrist and nothing on the elbow exists as far as I can tell. The ones that are out are utterly USELESS and don't work the proper muscles or mechanics, nor do they offer enough resistance to make an impact.
or are you talking about the one YOU invented? lol.
you know, we could have that made inChina... together. ;)
I have one of those elastic cords with the handles, it's in a box somewhere that I could less. I think the best I got out of it was stretching, but I can do the same thing with my jumprope so I could pretty much bury it.
It'll the give the kids over there something to do. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
cc for the above post chris. good reply to Gally.
btw, I didn't mention the wrist connection to yuo a couple days ago because I hadn't thought of it yet! that that one too. they're both pretty good, but I think the elbow one is harder on the shoulder, while letting you snap it out there faster. Right now I mix it up between the two, and sometimes I'll connect them both as I've shown, but that's a very hard workout. a few reps and your arm is tired as hell.
Anyways Von, you should be proud. After all the anticipation and attention this thread was getting you should have announced a release date, or better yet made a public service announcement. ;)
By the way I got a good exercise with the bungees that you try. Bungees + Speedbag. I think hell comes next. ;D I haven't tried it, but I have tried doing my favorite speed bag work after 5 intense minutes using the bungees. You should know first hand that after doing the bungee work how beat your arms feel.
Anyways you should come up with a name for your new baby.
the pulley system is the power puncher 2000. This is the power jabber 3000.
Yeah, I thought of that...the speedbag motion. Haven't tried it either though.
have you ever tried a speedbag with wristweights, or even little dumbells and hitting it with the butt ends?
That's good.
Talking about the speedbag, I've used wrist weights before, it does make it harder. I don't like the idea about sacrificing speed when I'm trying get better at a move. Maybe you've saw that way in your experience in baseball where you have those weighted balls which aren't much good besides beaning pricks you don't like. I'd like to try the power jabber with the speedbag. I like the fact that you don't end up losing speed, snap or power. First I gotta get some longer bungees and a good ankle strap.
I was just thinking of how you could make it more portable say for instance when you're doing bagwork. One thing I thought might work is to anchor it to a heavy weight such as putting a hook around a dumbell's handle.
you wanna oatent or copyright this or simething von could make you some serious dosh!!
I put something up regards bunji rope and the bag the best way from a belt on the bag to a belt round the waist 3" shorter than your jab try it its good with the elbow attachment put the other below the opposite knee teaches posture makes the gluets work with the elbow.
and obviously wrap it around in back of you.... otherwise it's simply lateral movement and no real resistance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
You told me that before Scrap. cc. I'll try that, because truth be told, although it's getting better, my jab sucks on the bag. In shadow boxing, no problemo, but on the bag it's always been an issue of finding my range.
Von shut your right eye while on the bag.
will do. thanks.
Top man cc
Never heard that before, how does it help?Quote:
Von shut your right eye while on the bag.
also stepping forward with your jab puts weight behind it and snapping it. That is why some guys like Hearns keep it low, somehow you can put more snap when it is moving up.
hearns got more leverage by simply dangling it and swinging it back and forth and that provided some momentum for when he actually threw it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
What Hearns did was the term hitting them with the back foot the back foot lands the same time as the fist.
Scrap, don't you mean the front foot? I thought you'd push off the back foot.
no the back foot chris, they both land at the same time. Early Tyson was brilliant at it.