You're welcome. It's a very good book, I refer to it often.Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneFlint
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You're welcome. It's a very good book, I refer to it often.Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneFlint
could i ask what other books you find usefull? you seem to have a lot of knowledge of boxing and i am kind of self training as there are no good boxing gyms around here to take lessons, ive been training a while now and my form is ok id just really like to find out some more set ups i think theyre called like ''the outside triple'' and also i think its called ''drop shifting'' is really good ive been using it during sparring with a left hook or jab/cross for a while now without the short step back with the lead foot, but now trying it with the short drop back of the lead foot is working out a lot smoother for me, i found that a lot of things ihave learned from this book i have been able to use to great effect in sparring straight away thank you again and sorry for the bad grammar ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris NagelYou're welcome. It's a very good book, I refer to it often.Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneFlint
Hi Wayne. There are a couple more books that I can recommend. There's Curtis Cokes' The Complete Book of Boxing, and J.C. Thomas' How to Be an Ass-Whipping Boxer. Curtis Cokes' book is great, you'll want to read it with a pen in hand as there are a lot of parts that should be highlighted and reread multiple times. You'll probably become eager to get the ideas off of the page and into actual practice. :)
In J.C. Thomas's book, he advocates a stance akin to George Benton and the Mayweathers. He often speaks with a self-promotional tone, but the techniques that he teaches makes the book rewarding. However it's not a book for beginners.
You should also browse the Boxing E-books thread in the Important/Useful posts section. There's a couple more interesting books that you'll want to read, see Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting, and Ross Enamait's In The Ring.
As for picking up new moves and incorporating it into your boxing, one of the best ways is to watch good fighters and try to incorporate their moves into your style. Remember that some of the moves won't work for you, but if you find something that impresses you should practice it. Also realize that watching fighters on your screen is different when you're standing in front of an opponent. The real learning is when you try out different things in the ring. Watch as many fights as you can. Get yourself some favorites, and watch some guys that you would like to emulate.
Thank you for your reply mate, ive just had a glance at the useful post section i cant believe i missed it before its like finding a gold mine :o so much material, i think ill go for the J.C. Thomas book first as i seemd to naturally box out of a crouch and shoulder roll a lot when i first started sparring before i even knew what it was that i was doing, so maybe that style will suit me?. im still enjoying studying the E.L. Haislet book, plenty to learn and try and encorporate into my sparring sessions yet til im ready to move on to the next book, thanks again for the references and advice mate its much appreciated and u can bet ill be back picking ur brain again sometime in the near future :P
The link given in Dizaster's original post now seems to be dead:
http://www.geocities.com/cillenmolin/boxing_manual.pdf
(And because Geocities serves up a default web page this won't be obvious until one actually tries to open the pdf.)
Does anyone have this or a link to it?
Thanks in advance...
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HerbM
Thanks (again) Chris. Now I have copy that is readable.
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OK, I've repubed a new (old) boxing manual that I want to let everyone know about and this is a cheap way to bump my post-count. Sux, but those are the forum rules so I have to live by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyAll thanks to the effort of Kirk Lawson who republished and re-transcribed the book.][/COLOR][/SIZE]Quote:
Originally Posted by sardineking
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
It's a shame that there isn't a generalized forum for other manuals, such as antique wrestling manuals. I have a ton of them too.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Hello, this may sound ridiculous but could someone give me a summary of the books and manuels talked about on here and how i can obtain copies? I have skimmed through here and tried some posts and a couple didnt work. I would really like to read these manuals.
Start here:
Boxing History and Ring Science Ebooks (with an explanation of most of them):
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ce-ebooks.html
The thread is in the Important and Useful Posts Subforum (of Ask the Trainer)
Important / Useful Posts
Personally I love the Dempsey, Haislett, Frazier, Champ Thomas, & Inside the Ring (Ross Enamait) book -- the fairly modern books on actual technique. I have learned so much from reading, and re-reading these books.
By 'modern' I mean anything that deals with the general sport that uses something approaching modern rules and modern techniques.
Dempsey's book is about as good as you can find on the subject and it is from about 1950, 50 or 60 years ago.
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HerbM
I briefly summarized a few of the books earlier in this thread. Herb posted the link to the thread that I referred to. I need to fix some of the books in that thread. In the past a forum glitch prevented me from editing some of the posts, but I should be able to now. In the meantime for the Haislet book, d/l it from Kirk Lawson's storefront. It's great.
Anyway, if you have the time, it's worth going through the older manuals as well. These old-timers deserve respect as they had to contend with harsher conditions than what is given today. There are moves that can be learned from the old manuals are still applicable in ring if given the time.
Hey Kirk, do you recall Stickgrappler's forum? I think that your books would've found a nice home there. I think the archives of it is still around, would've been nice if that forum was still active though.Quote:
Originally Posted by lklawson
oh yes thank you so much!! There is so much good stuff in here the only time i will leave the computer is to go to the gym lol. Seriously thank you so much herb for the link and the help once again and chris thank you for all the posts in that thread. You both are very generous with your knowledge
Chris is 'da Man'.
I haven't seen many posts from him in recent weeks, but he has been EXTREMELY helpful to me ever since I started visiting these forums, specifically in responding to my questions, in posts intended to share his knowledge with everyone, and in his posts of book links where I learned so much.
A good strategy on learning here, would be to search on Chris Nagal's name and read most anything he wrote.
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HerbM
Yeah, Stickgrappler is a great guy. The first electronic version of Dempsey I found was on his site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Nagel
He still blogs occasionally but is a family man so that eats a lot of his time.
I guess it was really just an idle thought. :)
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Hey Chris N,
I am new to this site (and to the sport of boxing), and discovered your post saying that you had a copy of "Boxing" by Edwin L Haislet. I was curious if you still had that and would be willing to send me a pdf (or whatever format it's in)? I want to learn more about the sport of boxing, and will likely buy a book on it, but it seems that Edwin's book may have some pretty good information.
Thanks for your time!
Ian
what are those books about sponsorships and boxing about? i would be interested in seeing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Nagel