all thaT crap and the fight only lasted 5secs?!?!?!?

Getting a shot off on a top wrestler and knocking him out is far harder for the boxer than the wrestler taking him down. The boxer gets only a few chances to make it happen. The rest of the match he's scrambling to get back to his feet. He can't base up. He can't stick out an arm. He can't roll over when he's getting ground and pound in the face. And as far as stats go I'll throw out a few names right now... I'll stick with the champs = Matt Sera (Jiu Jitsu), Randy Couture (wrestler at the olympic level for Army), Shaun Sherk (college wrestler), Anderson Silva (jiu jitsu, muay thai), Rampage Jackson (college wrestler). The three biggest names of the last several years are Tito Ortiz (college wrestler at Cal State), Chuck Liddell (kickboxing and high school wrestling) abd Matt Hughes (high school/college wrestler). These guys started with a ground game foundation and there's good reason for that. The ground is where most of the fight takes place. That's the bottom line. The only exception is when you have two guys with no ground game or two guys who just want to kill each other. On the feet, you better know how to throw some kicks with those punches. I'll take a wrestler against a striker any day of the week (especially a hands only striker). I'd take an average college wrestler against a world class boxer no problem. Now, you throw out someone who has great striking AND grappling. Now that's dangerous. That's where the sport is heading.

so a college wrestler, in a fight that starts on the feet and with fists, and who's never had a guy throwng hands at him, could take a guy like RJJ in his prime. Sorry man, but you're insane.

....College Wrestler vs Boxer.....nah buddy the wrestler has NO CHANCE. I've seen wrestling and you have to get in quick to do so without taking punishment would be very difficult to do vs a Boxer.....besides David Tua only needed 19 seconds to beat John Ruiz.....end of argument

when we have a boxer only champ give me call. meanwhile, i guess we'll have to watch hughes, couture, henderson, tito, gracie, serra, sherk, GSP, silva, monson, sakuraba, horn, rampage and everyone else actually winning in MMA. :-*

*yawn*

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Well done to the original poster. What an insightful post. I would call him a halfwit ignoramus who has no respect for the combat sports other than the armchair fan of boxing he most clearly is but...

I really can't be arsed.

Carry on

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Originally Posted by Munky

*yawn*

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Well done to the original poster. What an insightful post. I would call him a halfwit ignoramus who has no respect for the combat sports other than the armchair fan of boxing he most clearly is but...

I really can't be arsed.

Carry on

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That's fine..you're entitled to your opinion as I'm I mine....It's funny that everyone tries to play therapist or something..you don't know anything about me and all you know is what was posted. Armchair fan is hilarious esp when we've never met...

The point is with all the noise that liddell and the ufc supporters had been making prior to this "event" esp following delahoya mayweather. this was simply horrible and in fact only pointed to how amateurish the sport itself looks. despite that these were two of the top guys in the sport and if this was their attempt to win over boxing fans it was a swing and miss. Futhermore I consider UFC as a combat sport about as much as do i hockey fighting..It looks extremely amateurish even though these guys have trained to the highest levels in some diciplines, but stand up fighting isn't one of them...

And again thanks for your opinion as it is welcome.... ;)