WAS Holyfield a GREAT heavyweight

If he had retired after the Lewis fights, like I think he should, I think he would be regarded as the 3rd greatest HW of all time. He was 3 time HW champion and had fought and beaten these very good (or at least respectable) HW names. James Tillis, Michael Dokes, Alex Stewart x2, Buster Douglas, George Foreman, Bert Cooper, Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Michael Moorer, Ray Mercer and Mike Tyson x2. Also upto Lewis he had beaten everyone he had faced and I think if he had met Lewis around the time he beat Bowe, Evander would have taken Lewis too.

I though don't think that what someone does in his latter years should really damage their legacy, especially someone who had achieved what Evander had upto the Lewis fights. It's a real shame to see someone so great carrying on like he has done. His beating off Toney was a sad, sad sight. He would have beaten Toney to a pulp in his prime yet there he was (albeit with an injury) getting humiliated by a fat SMW.

So yes Evander was a GREAT Heavyweight!!!

Holyfield is a beast, i think he would give any one in the all time a helluva fight

Holyfield was a great heavyweight, not a great heavyweight champion, too inconsistent.

He was the greatest cruiser weight ever.

Holyfield beat EVERY elite heavyweight from the 1990's except Lewis. And the 1990's was probably the second greatest era in heavyweight history.

Look at his records against other champions:

- The only man to beat Riddick Bowe

-He knocked out Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dokes and Michael Moorer.

-Victories against ATG's George Foreman and Larry Holmes

-Victories over Rahman and Mercer, and at 46 he essentially boxed a shut out against Valuev.

I don't understand....
IF Mike Tyson ..Arguably the BEST HW ever at 45-1 meets an ex CW and gets beaten TWICE.... if evander is only good then Tyson is crap..
If tyson is good.. then... Evander is great.
If Tyson is (was) great then Evander is (was) great+
Isn't this kinda obvious?
30 years old against Holmes he was 27-0! Beat the best HW of all time (IMO larry).
Seems like a dumb question to me.....Is Evander just a good HW???
But I'll try and watch what I say so I don't get banned (again)
Just Flew from Canada to LV to watch him vs Botha. I STILL think he can do some damage in the HW div. Hard to believe but true! Hey even my man the giant hairy sasquatch couldn't stop him!. Id rather see Evander ANY day than Ruiz!
I bet against him VS Donald and it really broke my heart but I won $1600 so It soothed the wound. Untill he gets a serious beatdown he will keep going.. if he picks the right guys to fight it could be awhile....

Well, If Holyfield would have beaten the Tyson version of 1980's, no doubt.
beating a version of Tyson after prison time is nowhere near what it could have been in the 80's. We only supposed that we have lost maybe the best 80's fight of the 80's.

as for the Holyfield of today he beat a Botha version of 260 lbs, out of shape, nowhere near the level he had 10 years ago. what do you think ? that he can compete against klithko. Holyfield needs to stop before hurting himself dangerously.

He cannot compete against top10 heavy of today, and thinking the opposite because og the Botha fight (who came from a draw against a 9-1 guy) is just laughable

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Originally Posted by landmine950

I don't understand....
IF Mike Tyson ..Arguably the BEST HW ever at 45-1 meets an ex CW and gets beaten TWICE.... if evander is only good then Tyson is crap..
If tyson is good.. then... Evander is great.
If Tyson is (was) great then Evander is (was) great+
Isn't this kinda obvious?
30 years old against Holmes he was 27-0! Beat the best HW of all time (IMO larry).
Seems like a dumb question to me.....Is Evander just a good HW???
But I'll try and watch what I say so I don't get banned (again)
Just Flew from Canada to LV to watch him vs Botha. I STILL think he can do some damage in the HW div. Hard to believe but true! Hey even my man the giant hairy sasquatch couldn't stop him!. Id rather see Evander ANY day than Ruiz!
I bet against him VS Donald and it really broke my heart but I won $1600 so It soothed the wound. Untill he gets a serious beatdown he will keep going.. if he picks the right guys to fight it could be awhile....

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Wowwwww!!!! :o
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