Pacman wants Soto!

where is 70miles from big bear bro?

every summer theres Fin brush fires in so cal lol. if you lived in the 909 u get hit hard by that. all my properties in the 909 was covering in ash and u can smell something burning in the air lol.

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Yeah but that judge who scored the first wrong also gave rounds to Pacquiao where there was no way in hell he won. He won the first two rounds and then pretty much got shut out.

And Pacquiao can be beaten in the ring, not just because of his gloves or distractions. He's an open fighter who takes some to give some. Obviously he's not invincible like Pac fans tend to believe he is. And personally I believe that at this stage, Guzman and Marquez would both take Pacquiao. Both are style nightmares for Pac.

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thats a good point he did give pac alot of the later rounds where jmm was schooling him, but he the judge admitted if he knew how to properly score the first round then PAC MAN would of won by decision that night. so basically it really does come down to the 1st round since that is a FACT and not an opinion that the judge admitted he made an error. its a FACT and not an opinion, its a FACT and not an opinion :-*

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There you go we both agree on the fact the judge was incompetent. But the record remains intact and no amount of bitching is going to change that "FACT" . Pac Man is over it why not the Pac Fans ? No pay raise, the Peso devalued ?

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exactly the judge F'd that draw decision over, yet people act like JMM won it hands down. despite schooling Pac man for the later rounds which he did, the best he could do was grab a DRAW and that was even ONLY DUE to the incompetant judge's admitted error. can you say ASTORIX next to the DRAW? ;D

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where is 70miles from big bear bro?

every summer theres Fin brush fires in so cal lol. if you lived in the 909 u get hit hard by that. all my properties in the 909 was covering in ash and u can smell something burning in the air lol.

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Bro since when is Oct/Nov considered summer ? MAB was training in Hollywood not Big Bear that year.

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where is 70miles from big bear bro?

every summer theres Fin brush fires in so cal lol. if you lived in the 909 u get hit hard by that. all my properties in the 909 was covering in ash and u can smell something burning in the air lol.

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Well that year end of OCT/ Nov it was the San Fernando Valley under seige and I am in the South Bay (on the beach) and I could hardly breathe. I was lucky enough to have an Int'l business trip to get out of the ash.

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where is 70miles from big bear bro?

every summer theres Fin brush fires in so cal lol. if you lived in the 909 u get hit hard by that. all my properties in the 909 was covering in ash and u can smell something burning in the air lol.

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Bro since when is Oct/Nov considered summer ? MAB was training in Hollywood not Big Bear that year.

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wtf son u arguing about seasons now with me? u crack me up bro! CC to you!

for the record i went to santa barbara two weeks before thanksgiving and walked around with no shirt on and got a nice tan and brought some hawaiian dimes back to my ocean view pimp suite. so it might not be summer but its good enough lol

i heard theres a good wine bar in the south bay area that shows PPV fights do u know of this place i am speaking of?

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i heard theres a good wine bar in the south bay area that shows PPV fights do u know of this place i am speaking of?

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I used to go to Legends in Long Beach or Yankee Doodles in Long Beach or Santa Monica and Q's in Los Angeles are my favorites. Cirivellos in Long Beach has a more hard core wanna fight me client base love their fighters/teams my kinda place but too old to be bar fighting according to my wife and she is right (lol) Are talking pure sports bar or sports and ladies ?

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i heard theres a good wine bar in the south bay area that shows PPV fights do u know of this place i am speaking of?

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I used to go to Legends in Long Beach or Yankee Doodles in Long Beach or Santa Monica and Q's in Los Angeles are my favorites. Cirivellos in Long Beach has a more hard core wanna fight me client base love their fighters/teams my kinda place but too old to be bar fighting according to my wife and she is right (lol) Are talking pure sports bar or sports and ladies ?

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i used to go to all those spots u mentioned bro, but one of my girls told me she watches all of her fights at this more upscale wine bar i guess its a bar but more upscale and they got a decent wine selection? she says its in the south bay area. ill ask her what the name is. its a low key spot. they cater to more classy fight fans im sure u follow bro

i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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i heard theres a good wine bar in the south bay area that shows PPV fights do u know of this place i am speaking of?

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I used to go to Legends in Long Beach or Yankee Doodles in Long Beach or Santa Monica and Q's in Los Angeles are my favorites. Cirivellos in Long Beach has a more hard core wanna fight me client base love their fighters/teams my kinda place but too old to be bar fighting according to my wife and she is right (lol) Are talking pure sports bar or sports and ladies ?

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i used to go to all those spots u mentioned bro, but one of my girls told me she watches all of her fights at this more upscale wine bar i guess its a bar but more upscale and they got a decent wine selection? she says its in the south bay area. ill ask her what the name is. its a low key spot. they cater to more classy fight fans im sure u follow bro

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You know I would love to find out myself but my friends would never go there they are more blue collar and my wife wonders why I hang out with them if they are nothing like me. Guess its from my rough upbringing. I have one friend who probably knows but more from chasing the cat ,,,,,,,, he's a real dog and white collar too. Plus my wife is Filipina so I have a houseful of family usually here watching the fights. She is more ant Pac than me ....... Cuz all her friends are out there like the ESPN commercial talking out of their *sses as if they are knowledgeable about boxing. Its funny cuz my house is filled with Mexicans and filipinos and there is lots love, lots of booze, no disrespect and piles of food. All the Filipinos want Pac but its funny cuz they seem as though they are just waiting/hooping for his downfall. If you find out please let me know

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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Have you tried the Staples Sports Bar

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i heard theres a good wine bar in the south bay area that shows PPV fights do u know of this place i am speaking of?

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I used to go to Legends in Long Beach or Yankee Doodles in Long Beach or Santa Monica and Q's in Los Angeles are my favorites. Cirivellos in Long Beach has a more hard core wanna fight me client base love their fighters/teams my kinda place but too old to be bar fighting according to my wife and she is right (lol) Are talking pure sports bar or sports and ladies ?

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i used to go to all those spots u mentioned bro, but one of my girls told me she watches all of her fights at this more upscale wine bar i guess its a bar but more upscale and they got a decent wine selection? she says its in the south bay area. ill ask her what the name is. its a low key spot. they cater to more classy fight fans im sure u follow bro

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You know I would love to find out myself but my friends would never go there they are more blue collar and my wife wonders why I hang out with them if they are nothing like me. Guess its from my rough upbringing. I have one friend who probably knows but more from chasing the cat ,,,,,,,, he's a real dog and white collar too. Plus my wife is Filipina so I have a houseful of family usually here watching the fights. She is more ant Pac than me ....... Cuz all her friends are out there like the ESPN commercial talking out of their *sses as if they are knowledgeable about boxing. Its funny cuz my house is filled with Mexicans and filipinos and there is lots love, lots of booze, no disrespect and piles of food. All the Filipinos want Pac but its funny cuz they seem as though they are just waiting/hooping for his downfall. If you find out please let me know

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honestly i just wanna see a DAMN GOOD FIGHT period. especially if im sitting RINGSIDE lol! even tho i usually dont even pay for my seats lol.

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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yeah cuz i was working all day and i was starving lol and i didnt want to miss the undercards and i wanted a good seat lol. they would sucker us in by having a free buffet for peeps who paid like 5 bucks more or something lol

oh man i was on the toliet all night every time i ate there :-[

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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Have you tried the Staples Sports Bar

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naw we rolled deep to the VITALI KLITSCHKO vs Corrie Sanders fight which was at staples center and they was filming ENTOURAGE that same night there. hella fine honeys up in there and it looked nice, but we rolled deep to CENTURY CLUB after the fight so we had to bizounce lol.

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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Have you tried the Staples Sports Bar

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naw we rolled deep to the VITALI KLITSCHKO vs Corrie Sanders fight which was at staples center and they was filming ENTOURAGE that same night there. hella fine honeys up in there and it looked nice, but we rolled deep to CENTURY CLUB after the fight so we had to bizounce lol.

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How you gonna see a fight at the century club with all that coochie there ?

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i love watching fights at yankee doodle in SM bro! great place but whenever i ate the food there i got sick?????

did u have this problem too bro?

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When it comes to boxing we are both knowledeable but bro you really ate the food? LOL

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Have you tried the Staples Sports Bar

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naw we rolled deep to the VITALI KLITSCHKO vs Corrie Sanders fight which was at staples center and they was filming ENTOURAGE that same night there. hella fine honeys up in there and it looked nice, but we rolled deep to CENTURY CLUB after the fight so we had to bizounce lol.

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How you gonna see a fight at the century club with all that coochie there ?

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no no we saw the fight on main floor of staples center. we was there at the actual fight bro lol

damn century club was CRACKIN hard late 90's early 2000! was the best club in LA for years! :'(

ok guys get real, soto is ok but pac will ktfo him.


anyone who thinks pac will lose to soto is delusional or seriously hating of the pacman.

keep hoping though haters, you'll just keep getting dissapointed ;D

manny having witness soto beating bobby, will gaurantee pacman coming in to fwock soto up bad. not good for soto not at all pissing off the pacman. soto's only hope of ever beating pac is if pac doesn't train. But since he lit a fire under pacs ass soto is going to get fwock in the b-hind ;D

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I was really close on my Bobpac-Soto prediction :beerchug:. I predicted Soto by mid-round KO.

Bobby rocked Soto twice in 4th round. Manny is a vicious finisher, Bobby's NOT.

With Soto's lack of lateral footwork, less head movements, and weak chin... he would make a great prey for Pac.

I don't think Soto will last 6 rounds with Manny.

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WOAH!! Lets not hug on to Manny too much. He's a wonderful fighter,someone whom I've defended many many times BUT he is flawed and can be beaten. To describe Soto's chin as weak is very poor judgement. He took a haymaker which would have staggered ALOT of fighters and rather than hold on,fought back.He also showed his chin in the Juarez match in which Rocky landed that super(and his ONLY good punch ) left hook and Soto took it. He has decent lateral movement and his defence was good apart from those 2 moments.

I'd favour Manny but I think Soto has the tools to beat him,it's his lapses in concentration which would be his problem.

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Are you actually comparing Pac/Juarez power punching? ???

Juarez can't even carry MAB's spit bucket.

I like Soto. He's very humble and he reminds me of young Erik Morales. And we all know that EM beat Pac.

But Soto haven't been in real war yet. Pac is a pressure fighter and Soto will just be overwhelm.

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You need to be reminded that both Medgoen Singsurat & Rustico Torrecampo KTFO of your PACDEAR. YES I am comparing Juarez power not velocity to Pac. Also MAB barely escaped Juarez twice. Ans not being in a war does not mean the inability to excel in one. The funniest thing are the references to Soto being humble as if he would be lesser if he were saying he would KNTFO Pac. Pac man is also humble and I like him for that. It is his followers that lack personal success, class and in some instances common sense. That is why they post as if you were talking about their mama.

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Oh that memory lane again. "I have to base my aguements now on Pac's defeat to win the debate". LOL!

FYI, Pac's defeats was from 1995-96 when could no longer make 106 and 112 as young skinny teen-ager. He got KOed both from body shots.

You didn't have to throw the "mama" joke as personal insult.

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To further solidify my post in lacking common sense look at your reference to: "win the debate" I was unaware that this was a win, win win post situation. I was under the belief that this was just a room for expression of personal belief in the field of boxing.

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I was really close on my Bobpac-Soto prediction :beerchug:. I predicted Soto by mid-round KO.

Bobby rocked Soto twice in 4th round. Manny is a vicious finisher, Bobby's NOT.

With Soto's lack of lateral footwork, less head movements, and weak chin... he would make a great prey for Pac.

I don't think Soto will last 6 rounds with Manny.

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WOAH!! Lets not hug on to Manny too much. He's a wonderful fighter,someone whom I've defended many many times BUT he is flawed and can be beaten. To describe Soto's chin as weak is very poor judgement. He took a haymaker which would have staggered ALOT of fighters and rather than hold on,fought back.He also showed his chin in the Juarez match in which Rocky landed that super(and his ONLY good punch ) left hook and Soto took it. He has decent lateral movement and his defence was good apart from those 2 moments.

I'd favour Manny but I think Soto has the tools to beat him,it's his lapses in concentration which would be his problem.

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Are you actually comparing Pac/Juarez power punching? ???

Juarez can't even carry MAB's spit bucket.

I like Soto. He's very humble and he reminds me of young Erik Morales. And we all know that EM beat Pac.

But Soto haven't been in real war yet. Pac is a pressure fighter and Soto will just be overwhelm.

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You need to be reminded that both Medgoen Singsurat & Rustico Torrecampo KTFO of your PACDEAR. YES I am comparing Juarez power not velocity to Pac. Also MAB barely escaped Juarez twice. Ans not being in a war does not mean the inability to excel in one. The funniest thing are the references to Soto being humble as if he would be lesser if he were saying he would KNTFO Pac. Pac man is also humble and I like him for that. It is his followers that lack personal success, class and in some instances common sense. That is why they post as if you were talking about their mama.

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Oh that memory lane again. "I have to base my aguements now on Pac's defeat to win the debate". LOL!

FYI, Pac's defeats was from 1995-96 when could no longer make 106 and 112 as young skinny teen-ager. He got KOed both from body shots. - Sorry just not valid enough reasons. Why are Pacmans excuse more valid than those of MAB in his loss to Pac Man? A plate in head revealed to sanctioning committee and in the press, camp interrupted due to severe brush fires, last minute managerial changes.. Seems these are much more valid than not being able to woof down a steak as a teenager and absorb body shots. Now he has money and still has a problem with body shots.

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Pac destroyed MAB convincingly in front of his crowd fyi. I thought MAB had superb team and always have plan B for everything.

And money has something to do with body shots now? I don't think the more money you have, the lesser body hit you will receive. Money has nothing to do with it my brother.

Did somebody KOed Pac by body shot in his prime lately? Really?... who knocked him out?

Oops! I must have missed that one. ;D

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The fact that you do not live in Los Angeles only shows that you are unaware of the caos during MAB camp prior to the Pac fight. He had just left his promoter to join GBP in anger he disclosed to the public and press that MAB had a metal plate in his head in hopes that it would cancel the fight. In addition there were severe brush fires that forced people indoors for close to a week due to ashes floating about in the air @ 200 mile radius and in the centered where MAB was training. I live 70 miles away and my cars were covered with residue. I addition the sanctioning body deeply investigated the claims leaving MAB in Limbo and in my estimation MAB under estimated his opponent. So unless you know all the variables stop claiming to have any boxing wit, saavy or anything else.


FYI Soto does not have a weak chin

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More proof of the fires disrupting MAB camp prior to PAC fight :http://www.talkingproud.us/Firefighter110203.html

How about you Pac fans start offering valid excuses with facts rather than hot air. And Cotto and Pac man are not upholding boxing only chat rooms filled with Cotto Salamis and PAC Fans.
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Pac got KTFO twice in his early days NO EXCUSES. But he learned from his mistakes and kept succeeding (p4p best, ring mag foty, boxers writter assc. foty, and many more awards) ;)

Why can't you accept the fact that Pac raped your boy Barrera in front of his crowd.

Sssheeezzz! No more excuses please. ;D