Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
But he is fighting and putting weird things into his body and justifying himself to nobody. Even I as a Toney fan find this extremely difficult to digest. Even if Toney were to fight again I would have a difficult time adjusting. Toney has caused a lot of damage here.
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
But he is fighting and putting weird things into his body and justifying himself to nobody. Even I as a Toney fan find this extremely difficult to digest. Even if Toney were to fight again I would have a difficult time adjusting. Toney has caused a lot of damage here.
Your right..
Theres way more to it then just his will to fight..
His skill is stil there to an extent but he just doesnt seem to find motivation to train and right for twelve rounds..
Even when he was p4p best he never fought all of every round.. But at this late stage..And with rumours of minor brain injury its probably not wise to carry on..
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
But he is fighting and putting weird things into his body and justifying himself to nobody. Even I as a Toney fan find this extremely difficult to digest. Even if Toney were to fight again I would have a difficult time adjusting. Toney has caused a lot of damage here.
Your right..
Theres way more to it then just his will to fight..
His skill is stil there to an extent but he just doesnt seem to find motivation to train and right for twelve rounds..
Even when he was p4p best he never fought all of every round.. But at this late stage..And with rumours of minor brain injury its probably not wise to carry on..
I dont know how he could carry on really. I would really like to hear James Toney's take on all of this to be honest. His silence isnt a glowing admission of innocence though. :-\
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
Toney has been done twice for steroids now he is becoming abit of a joke this time they found 2 types in him 3 types in the guy he fought last aswell this is'nt good for heavyweight boxing and boxing in general.
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
Duran never took steroids though. With Duran's tendency to make excuses maybe he would have used steroids, but he never was positive for it and by the looks of his body I would say he never took steroids.
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
Duran never took steroids though. With Duran's tendency to make excuses maybe he would have used steroids, but he never was positive for it and by the looks of his body I would say he never took steroids.
Nobody said that duran ever took steriods..
I doubt he ever did..
And in all fairness You couldnt exactly tell toney was on steroids!..I mean look at him! Lol
He wasnt quite ripped for his last fight
Re: Toney suspended for Steroids?!
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
He's only been banned to fight in Calafornia right?
To be honest as far as affecting Toney's career it won't make any difference. The guy is the new milleniums Roberto Duran and will keep fighting until he has a car crash or some other injury that finally finishes him off for good.
Toney lives to fight. If the entire USA banned him he'd probably go fight in Columbia or Mexico.
This won't be the last we see of him in the ring.
Good point! Cc
The proof of that is in his last fight.. It wasnt televised.. He doesnt even really have the urge to have his fights on tv..
Hes just still fighting
Duran never took steroids though. With Duran's tendency to make excuses maybe he would have used steroids, but he never was positive for it and by the looks of his body I would say he never took steroids.
Nobody said that duran ever took steriods..
I doubt he ever did..
And in all fairness You couldnt exactly tell toney was on steroids!..I mean look at him! Lol
He wasnt quite ripped for his last fight
No I didn't mean Duran took steroids. I am just saying his tendency to make excuses and lie about fights he was in makes you think he would have tried them if he could have gotten away with it. Duran was the king of excuses. If he lost a fight fair and square against the better guys he had an excuse always, and then when he lost he was miraculously in shape. Yet the problem was when he lost he lost to Benitez,Leonard,Hagler,Hearns etc etc. The only time he was not in shape is when he fought those 4 guys. What a coincidence that he was not in shape for the 4 best guys of the 80s, but in shape for the lesser fighters. That was just Duran. I know I strayed from the subject. But the excuses have something to do with all this.
Toney tests positive for steroids. Suspended for a year!!!
Three-time world champion James Toney has tested positive for steroids and has been given a one-year suspension.
The state of California Athletic Commission issued the ban, pending an appeal, and said Toney tested positive after beating Danny Batchelder in May.
Batchelder also tested positive and has also been suspended until 22 May, 2008.
Toney, 38, also tested positive for nandrolone two years ago and it cost him victory over then WBC heavyweight champion John Ruiz.
"They have a right to appeal," said California Athletic Commission chief Armando Garcia.
"My recommendation is suspension until the end of the licensing year and a $2,500 (£1,267) fine for both.
"We will give them the 30 days to appeal. If they don't, that's what the suspension will be."
Toney won a split decision over Batchelder, an outcome that will not be changed, Garcia said.
Toney is a former middleweight, super middleweight and cruiserweight world champion and has 70 wins from 79 fights.
In Toney's defence, I completely believe he has never used steroids. The only proof you need is to look at the blubber he calls an abdomen
Re: Toney tests positive for steroids. Suspended for a year!!!
after the first steroid allegation or test I felt ok give him a chance, but 2 of them? Just seems idiotic for Toney to have another positive test. I do not understand how he would take the chance again.. He should be banned from the sport. If boxing has standards then it will be respected. I always thought Mike Tyson should have been banned after he bit Evander's ear. Does that sound harsh? I am one of those who thinks Mike is an all time great. But biting someones ear or taking steroids has to be something which boxing cannot stand for.. But in my view both Mike Tyson and James Toney are all time greats and deserve to be.
