Is it just me? But why does EVERYONE rate Calzaghe so highly?

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Originally Posted by ds91

wbo champ for many years. no losses, 20 successful title defenses. not against the best opposition but still a good achievement.

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Artur Grigorian made 17 title defenses of his crappy ass WBO title. Are you going to embarrass yourself by saying Grigorian was a good fighter?

why the hell would he go to germany, knowing if it goes 12 rounds he's gona get robbed simple as. he has beaten every1 he could of beaten, and give me a break every1 knows he would of beaten ottke fair and square. maybe you could of blamed warren for the fight with hopkins not comming off. It now seems he has the big fights comming his way at this late stage in his career, starting with Kessler.

beat Kessler, taylor, Hopknis and he is an all time great without doubt.

There's know doubt in my mind this can happen

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Have you been TYSONBRUNO in the past 3 months?

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Who's he?

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Some guy that hates Calzaghe about his opposition ect and i would have to agree because most of Calzaghes opponents have been cab drivers or former world champions that are washed up or prospects.

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Okay then Ice, I know you're a bit more savvy than some of the other Calzaghe haters that we have on the forum, so which SMW's should Calzaghe have faced during the 10-year rreign that he didn't?

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I'm pretty savy too there, Cupcake ;D

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Have you been TYSONBRUNO in the past 3 months?

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Who's he?

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Some guy that hates Calzaghe about his opposition ect and i would have to agree because most of Calzaghes opponents have been cab drivers or former world champions that are washed up or prospects.

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Okay then Ice, I know you're a bit more savvy than some of the other Calzaghe haters that we have on the forum, so which SMW's should Calzaghe have faced during the 10-year rreign that he didn't?

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I'm pretty savy too there, Cupcake ;D

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Hey don't try steal my thunder ;D

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

why the hell would he go to germany, knowing if it goes 12 rounds he's gona get robbed simple as. he has beaten every1 he could of beaten, and give me a break every1 knows he would of beaten ottke fair and square. maybe you could of blamed warren for the fight with hopkins not comming off. It now seems he has the big fights comming his way at this late stage in his career, starting with Kessler.

beat Kessler, taylor, Hopknis and he is an all time great without doubt.

There's know doubt in my mind this can happen

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What big fights? At one time or other Calzaghe has been rumored to fight everybody at some point. But he always seems to end up in the ring with garbage fighters like Manfredo, Ashira, Salem or Viet (twice). I don't care how close a fight with Kessler is. I won't believe Calzaghe has the balls to face him until I actually see him in the ring with Kessler. Even if it gets a officially signed, there's still Calzaghe bitch ass habit of postponing fights or supposedly breaking his hand.

Calzaghe's career is still very much case open. If he can get a couple more big fights and win them then his reign will go down as being a very good one indeed, certainly up there with Bernard Hopkins.

However if he doesn't get the fights, or fights and loses then his record will be seen as largely inflated on a diet of veteran no hopers and journeymen.

I'll reserve judgement until I see him in the ring with Jermain Taylor or B Hop.

I'll say this much though. Only Floyd Mayweather in the entire sport has beaten all of their opponents as comfortably and unanimously as Joe.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'll say this much though. Only Floyd Mayweather in the entire sport has beaten all of their opponents as comfortably and unanimously as Joe.

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Floyds resume is head and shoulders above Joe Calzaghe's  ;)

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'll say this much though. Only Floyd Mayweather in the entire sport has beaten all of their opponents as comfortably and unanimously as Joe.

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Floyds resume is head and shoulders above Joe Calzaghe's ;)

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Yes I agree completely I just mean there is no other top level fighter, who has reigned at the top as long as they have who has beaten every opponent as decisively as Floyd and Joe.

I think it's interesting though that no fighter's career more hinges on a big win than Joe's does.

Right now we just don't know how good he is, even though he's had 40 fights or so and been champion for a decade.

If he fights and beats Hopkins or Taylor he could go as high as top 3 p4p, if he loses he could drop out of the top 20!

It's disrespectful to Mayweather and the boxing world to even compare Calzaghe to Mayweather

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

It's disrespectful to Mayweather and the boxing world to even compare Calzaghe to Mayweather

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This is a boxing forum. A place to discuss, so if we can't compare fighters why are we here. Maybe so we can all line up and have a look at the shiny wheels on VD's truck? And you're right, I'm sure Mayweather wouldn't like to be compared to anyone because he is a ghetto bitch with a bad attitude and a big mouth. I don't care if it takes a double decker full of scallies with cricket bats arriving on a tour outside his house, he needs a lesson giving to him, even if he is that most gifted boxer of his generation.

And another thing, Hopkins had already agreed to fight for 3 mill and contracts were being drawn up where he, out of the blue, then demands 6 mill, that behaviour don't sound to me like a guy who's itching to get in the ring. And if someone's just agreed to fight for a price, then asks to double it, you'd tell him to f**k off wouldn't you.

The bottom line is Joe *duck duck* Calzaghe dodged Johnston *I feel Woods would beat Calzaghe* and was afraid to fight Jones, and is running from Kessler! He has made a reputation and a fortune from fighting opponants he knows he can beat! I quote Rocky, 'always some angle to hold onto the title, longer than I should have had it', and people are duped into thinking he is good! Calzaghe never fights anyone on a level playing field, don't delude yourselves!

Christ, he was talking about fighting Hopkins *isn't he about 90 now, and lighter*? That is cowardice, a superfight my arse! An easy fight more like!
Christ Dot Cotton could beat up Hopkins now! And Calzaghe knows it! The people who rate Calzaghe SOOO highly, are probably the people who reckoned Audley Harrison was the next world champion too, or Amir Khan will be undisputed champion too, and Hamed would beat Barrera!

i dont honestly believe Calzaghe has ducked anyone. from what i can gather, RJJ didnt want anything to do with him offers were made, Hopkins started demanding mad amounts after an amount was agreed, taylor fight could still be made, Kessler know seems to be the one back tracking on the demands, and everyone said JC was scared of Lacy till he showed the world what he was made of, dont forget JC was an underdog for that fight!

Maybe frank Warren has spoilt JC career in many way, JC should of been fighting in the US on a regular basis like Hatton, would of been alot easier to make the fights happen then.

silly man, JC has agreed to go to denmark and has signed his part of the deal, know Palle has said he want the fight moved forward 2 months for his annaversary, who F**king the fight up know...

get your facts straight Columbo

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

i dont honestly believe Calzaghe has ducked anyone. from what i can gather, RJJ didnt want anything to do with him offers were made, Hopkins started demanding mad amounts after an amount was agreed, taylor fight could still be made, Kessler know seems to be the one back tracking on the demands, and everyone said JC was scared of Lacy till he showed the world what he was made of, dont forget JC was an underdog for that fight!

Maybe frank Warren has spoilt JC career in many way, JC should of been fighting in the US on a regular basis like Hatton, would of been alot easier to make the fights happen then.

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When has Calzaghe offered Jones a fight i already replied to this Calzaghe wasn't even a name outside of UK when Jones was p4p number 1 and i don't remember any offers.

Columbo is spot on, Joe is one of the most over rated boxers, if not the most over Britain has ever produced. He has ducked everyone out their who is any good, as do all of Wank Warren fighters, naseem (i can drive for shit) Hamed, the worlds biggest scum bag was a prime example.
it the WBC sanctioned a fight with a reality T.V nobody they would be a laughing stock, but the WBO or the Warren boxing organization as it should be called can get away with it because everybody knows it's a Micky mouse title that people use a stepping stone to a real title.
Joe has know intentions of fighting outside of Wales or trying to unify the belts.
JOE the chicken shit bottle, anyone who pays him and Wank Warren any money need their heads looked at.

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

silly man, JC has agreed to go to denmark and has signed his part of the deal, know Palle has said he want the fight moved forward 2 months for his annaversary, who F**king the fight up know...

get your facts straight Columbo

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Erm, okay then, if *duck duck* Calzaghe is SO wonderful, charming and handsome, not to mention an incredibly talented boxer, why does he need ALL that preparation time? Surely, he would be ready to fight at a moments notice, erm like Kessler, and other champions! I'll tell you why, he needs more time to hurt his wrist carrying in the shopping from the car *large boxes of cornflakes can be extremely heavy, especially if they have a free toy inside*, or time to hurt his back whilst eating his pizza *damn they make those pizza boxes damn awkward to get into*!

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

I'm sure Mayweather wouldn't like to be compared to anyone because he is a ghetto bitch with a bad attitude and a big mouth. I don't care if it takes a double decker full of scallies with cricket bats arriving on a tour outside his house, he needs a lesson giving to him, even if he is that most gifted boxer of his generation.

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Your an angry young man Rhun..... Since you seem to be an expert on justice being sorted out properly, I think you should lead the charge to Las Vegas, show up at the humble Mayweather Abode and personally tell him what a ghetto bitch he is ;)

Calzaghr has agreed to fight kessler in sept, but guess what his promoter wants it now at a latter date. HAHA explain that Columbo, who's ready to fight and who's not. hhhmmmmmm

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

Calzaghr has agreed to fight kessler in sept, but guess what his promoter wants it now at a latter date. HAHA explain that Columbo, who's ready to fight and who's not. hhhmmmmmm

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Well maybe Kessler has taken a page out of Calzaghes book, and sprained his wrist whilst playing with his rubber duck in the bath, or pouring hot water on his pot noodle! And you REALLy think Warren would allow *duck duck* to fight in September, bah, of course not, hang on maybe Kessler has an operation planned which requires him to be in a wheelchair for a bit, during which time *duck duck* will offer to fight him, and and both of his arms would have to be in traction too ! WBO, sorry i mean the warren boxing organisation, yea that's a great title to have mind isn't it!

Yea cause its not like Calzaghe stroked and dragged his feet ever whilst trying to make a fight.... I have heard a myriad excuses and delays before, whether they were legit or not ;)

So the one time he wasnt being a pain in the azz........ I"LL REMIND YOU WHAT A HISTORY OF BEING PAINS IN THE AZZ TEAM CALZAGHE HAS BEEN ;)

well he did win the IBF off the great American hope Jeff Lacy, remember??????

Yep thats right and when he wins the two tittles of Kessler, you wont really have any argument at all..

Cant wait!

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Originally Posted by columbo

The bottom line is Joe *duck duck* Calzaghe dodged Johnston *I feel Woods would beat Calzaghe* and was afraid to fight Jones, and is running from Kessler! He has made a reputation and a fortune from fighting opponants he knows he can beat! I quote Rocky, 'always some angle to hold onto the title, longer than I should have had it', and people are duped into thinking he is good! Calzaghe never fights anyone on a level playing field, don't delude yourselves!

Christ, he was talking about fighting Hopkins *isn't he about 90 now, and lighter*? That is cowardice, a superfight my a***! An easy fight more like!
Christ Dot Cotton could beat up Hopkins now! And Calzaghe knows it! The people who rate Calzaghe SOOO highly, are probably the people who reckoned Audley Harrison was the next world champion too, or Amir Khan will be undisputed champion too, and Hamed would beat Barrera!

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First of all calzaghe hasnt ducked sh!t!!! He made offer to rjj OH BUT CALZAGHE WAS A NO NAME THEN RIGHT rjj ducked

CALZAGHE made a reasonable offer to jermain but OH JERMAIN WANTS 10mil!!!! jermain ducked

he made an offer to hopkins, 3 mill is reasonable oh but HOPKINS DOUBLE IT OUT OF NOWHERE hopkins ducked

now the most feared smw besides calzaghe, kessler finally offerd joe a fight IN DENMARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you know what CALZAGHE TOOK THE CHALLENGE...

calzaghe overrated????: he deserves to be 8 in the ring p4p thats where most of the experts put him..

if you feel hes sucks and doesnt deserve p4p rating well The Ring Magazine expert staff agrees with me!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats not overrated thats reality... HATERS, HATE ITS YOUR JOB

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Originally Posted by columbo

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

Calzaghr has agreed to fight kessler in sept, but guess what his promoter wants it now at a latter date. HAHA explain that Columbo, who's ready to fight and who's not. hhhmmmmmm

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Well maybe Kessler has taken a page out of Calzaghes book, and sprained his wrist whilst playing with his rubber duck in the bath, or pouring hot water on his pot noodle! And you REALLy think Warren would allow *duck duck* to fight in September, bah, of course not, hang on maybe Kessler has an operation planned which requires him to be in a wheelchair for a bit, during which time *duck duck* will offer to fight him, and and both of his arms would have to be in traction too ! WBO, sorry i mean the warren boxing organisation, yea that's a great title to have mind isn't it!

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Have a :coolclick: on me and keep fighting the good fight on the antibullshit Calzaghe front ;D

all joe has to do to get out of the fight is to pay a visit to his ex girl friend, he seems to damage his hands fighting her, hits like a girl anyway.

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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

well he did win the IBF off the great American hope Jeff Lacy, remember??????

Yep thats right and when he wins the two tittles of Kessler, you wont really have any argument at all..

Cant wait!

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Well you can wait in one hand a have a shitter in the other and see what fills up fast..... Calzaghe is getting on in age and and when he meets a well rounded Bona fied superstar boxer(Kessler) we will know how good he really is.... Win or Lose I look forward to it, but doubt it happens. Cause with Team Calzaghe, if its not one thing its another :-\

Come on Rhun, I know your getting cranked up, get mad you sumbitch ;D

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Come on Rhun, I know your getting cranked up, get mad you sumbitch ;D

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I'm on the phone. Will get mad later.

I think the people in wales cling to joe as they have never really had a world class fighter before, or a world class anything apart from singers, I'd pay good money to see charlotte church punched in the face several times.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Blake

I think the people in wales cling to joe as they have never really had a world class fighter before, or a world class anything apart from singers, I'd pay good money to see charlotte church punched in the face several times.

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Now then, now then, I can't let that pass now can I. We were world leaders in sheep-shagging Rugby in the 70s and 80s, and both Jimmy Wilde and Tommy Farr were world class boxers, who along with Steve Robinson, who won the WBO featherweight title at 48 hours notice, have represented Wales well on the world stage. And with present company of Maccarinelli, and prospects coming through, I'd reckon Wales is punching very well for the size of country we are.

And I'm bored of defending Calzaghe to people who are too ignorant to read my posts and reply to my points- *columbo*.

columbo=FOOL

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by Colonel Blake

I think the people in wales cling to joe as they have never really had a world class fighter before, or a world class anything apart from singers, I'd pay good money to see charlotte church punched in the face several times.

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Now then, now then, I can't let that pass now can I.  We were world leaders in sheep-shagging Rugby in the 70s and 80s, and both Jimmy Wilde and Tommy Farr were world class boxers, who along with Steve Robinson, who won the WBO featherweight title at 48 hours notice, have represented Wales well on the world stage.  And with present company of Maccarinelli, and prospects coming through, I'd reckon Wales is punching very well for the size of country we are.

And I'm bored of defending Calzaghe to people who are too ignorant to read my posts and reply to my points- *columbo*.

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OH no you dont Mr.Happy pants.... I expect an answer to my comment about you sorting out Mayweather with a bus full of Welsh hillbillies ;D

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by Colonel Blake

I think the people in wales cling to joe as they have never really had a world class fighter before, or a world class anything apart from singers, I'd pay good money to see charlotte church punched in the face several times.

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Now then, now then, I can't let that pass now can I. We were world leaders in sheep-shagging Rugby in the 70s and 80s, and both Jimmy Wilde and Tommy Farr were world class boxers, who along with Steve Robinson, who won the WBO featherweight title at 48 hours notice, have represented Wales well on the world stage. And with present company of Maccarinelli, and prospects coming through, I'd reckon Wales is punching very well for the size of country we are.

And I'm bored of defending Calzaghe to people who are too ignorant to read my posts and reply to my points- *columbo*.

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Erm, you're Welsh I guess, therefore do I need to treat you as an equal! You already used the terms sheep shaggers and world class in the same sentence! If you had a sheep under each arm, would be you classed as a pimp in Wales? According to you, you would! And who mentioned rugby (small r by the way boyo)? This is a boxing forum, oh wait, I'll discuss quiots or darts, coz apparently we can! Learn to read young man, learn to read! And who manages Maccarinell? Nuff said dullard!

Rugby is not a sport, it's just people who cant play football take up egg chasing. It's up there with synchronized swimming, or ball room dancing, both of which are in the Olympics for some unknown reason, now darts should be in the Olympics, wales should be able to knock out a darts champ.
PS the welsh were world class in the slave trade mind you. O0

I agree with Col Blake, rugby is played by men with funny shaped balls, probably due to all the sheep shagging that goes on!

Alright as a senior member of the forum, I have to make a citizens Admonishment.... Lets not have this dissolve into a countrymen battle please ;)

i'm not welsh i'm from texas and calzaghe is legit

i'm hearing all the haters spew opinion and take low blows at calzaghe why isnt any one bashing my previous comment... caus its fact and you cant respond to fact only made up bullsh!t..

true boxing fans respect all highly skilled boxers.. i dislike zab and mayweather with a passion, but i respect their skills because i respect boxing

columbo i thought u was really asking the question: why calzaghe was rated so highly?
i didnt know your mind was already made up

cl blake: talk about boxing and not racist commits about welsh

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Alright as a senior member of the forum, I have to make a citizens Admonishment.... Lets not have this dissolve into a countrymen battle please ;)

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If i may just make this final remark, Tom Jones is crap, I think he's a curly tosser, 'whats new pussycat'? I'll tell you whats new, *duck duck -oooh my hand* Calzaghe fighting someone under the age of 90 with a colostomy bag!

Yep your right, it's not his fault he's welsh he's got it bad enough i suppose, the way they spit on each other when they talk.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Blake

Yep your right, it's not his fault he's welsh he's got it bad enough i suppose, the way they spit on each other when they talk.

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stop with the welsh sh!t...... you probably dont even know any welsh and proclaim yourself as a anit-racist huh

talk about boxing or shut the f@ck up!

right so you see Calzaghe in a bar and you would call the man a sheep shagger, hmmm ok then

NO THATS RIGHT YOU WOULD SOIL YOUR UNDERPANTS