Re: y dont people like slick boxers
Boxing Ethusisast love slick fighters, its the casual fans who don't
Strange that my Top 3 fave fighters of all time are all slick boxers:
Roy Jonee Junior
Shane Mosley
Pernell Whitaker
i GUESS that make me an Entusiast
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by artest2000
who dont get hit that much. i mean its the name of the game fighters like
roy jones
mayweather
zab judah (fighter before the Kosta fought)
cory spinks
shane mosley
and its all ways the slick boxers who get the pound for pound 1
even if they are disliked.
its art work that these fighters practice.
Have you bought any of their tickets for their major matches?
If not, you have no voice.
I havnt either..
Do i have no voice?
Ive seen probably 80 odd fights between all those fighters and picked up obscene ammounts of news of these fighters having been a boxing fan for years..
Do i have a voice?
How many fights you been to?
Say you hate hatton..Im not saying you do..But use that as an example
Next time you want to talk about say hatton or hopkins or mayweather or gatti..
And you havnt seen them..
Let me just butt in and question your dedication and knowledge of the sport cos you havnt seen them?
You thnk that would be fair?
I dont..
So shall i or shant i do that?
Sorry for sounding like an @ss. cc man.
I might hurt your feelings again, but I don't mean to, I just need to get a point across.
I just mean.... people say they are fans... they say they love boxers like Mayweather..... but hardly any of those same guys buy tickets to their fights. Many fight fans travel over 7 hours just to see the fighters they love. And I hear a lot of people say their favorite is a defensive fighter... yet those type of fighters punch in front of empty seats all the time. I've seen Margarito, Morales, Arce, Barrera, and Pacquiao. Shook hands with Diego Corrales (I'm fortunate) and seen that jerk Larry Merchant (Unfortunate). I mean, it's a sacrifice, and I admit I haven't done it recently because I'm busy, the planning invovled, and the money, I'm not rich so I could never afford to stay in Vegas, I think I drove around 10 hours just to get there... but it's worth it to say I'm a fan and I paid the price to see them. People say they are fans to these defensive marvels, but their fans aren't as loyal as the offensive fighters. If your going to go to a fight that's going to possibly put you behind in rent, are you going to buy tickets to a defensive display of one punch action and feinting... or are you going to watch a valiant display of someone daring to be great, sacrifice his health, and who's going to work for it until he's stopped?
This pay to play attitude is pretty crazy to me. I go to fights, I can't afford to go to my favorite fighters fights but I still go to smaller fights because I love to watch boxing, live at the event or on television. Anyone who appreciates boxing truely has a voice concerning it, because without them boxing wouldn't be important the way it is past competition. You've been to some big fights I'm assuming, have you seen some of the people there? They just want to say they've been to the big fight but you catch them not watching the fight and just talking the whole time, they shouldn't have more of a voice than some kid just getting into boxing and watching it on youtube, or someone who would pay the money to watch Hopkins-Wright. Or even a fight like Cotto-Judah because they want to watch some quality boxing and have a tool to turn some friends onto the sport.
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
For all your slick badass needs..Please see below..
James toney
Also see
Toney - barkley/griffin one :)
That is all :P
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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I prefer fighter come into a fight with the intention of putting their opponent on the canvas. No, not exactly. I like fighters who that are want to land as many punches as possible. I like most of the guys you mentioned, and most of those guys do just that. Mayweather is the clear exception on that list. I like guys who come into fights looking for the KO, even if they don't have the power to get the KO. Even though Malignaggi has ZERO power, he engages and makes an exciting fight. Winky doesn't KO anybody, but I love his steady, relentless pressure combined with his defensive skill.
Many people don't agree with me on this one, but IMHO, if don't come into a fight trying to put hurting on your opponent, you aren't doing your job. For example, Floyd should have tried to stop Oscar. He dominated him, yet his fought a boring, overly defensive fight that made the outcome closer than it should have been on the cards. Had Floyd taken more chances and tried to stop Oscar instead of coasting to an easy decision, he would have won a UD by a large margin. Sure, I enjoyed his slick defense. I'm a smart, hardcore boxing fan and I appreciate that style, but to me it's lazy and a little boring. I prefer guys like Duran, Hagler, Frazier. That's why Shane Mosley is probably my favorite active boxer. He's slick and fast, but he lookes to engage. He'll take one to give three. I'm not a big fan of take 3 to give 1 guys. I love guys with defensive who still can brawl. I'd rather watch Kelly Pavlik any day over Floyd Mayweather. Pavlik could have run and pot-shoted his way to a UD over Miranda. Instead, he ate a few punches, took a few chances, and gave us all FOTY candidate.
Are you a Paul Williams fan then?
Define fan. I've seen him two or three times and I enjoy watching him, and I'm looking forward to his fight with Tony, but I like Margarito, too and I'm not sure who I'll be rooting for. I guess I'm a fan but not a fan-boy.
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But yet i devote most of my days to boxing
But alls cool bro
Agh man I'm sorry. I only hit the strip once.
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Originally Posted by global
This pay to play attitude is pretty crazy to me. I go to fights, I can't afford to go to my favorite fighters fights but I still go to smaller fights because I love to watch boxing, live at the event or on television. Anyone who appreciates boxing truely has a voice concerning it, because without them boxing wouldn't be important the way it is past competition. You've been to some big fights I'm assuming, have you seen some of the people there? They just want to say they've been to the big fight but you catch them not watching the fight and just talking the whole time, they shouldn't have more of a voice than some kid just getting into boxing and watching it on youtube, or someone who would pay the money to watch Hopkins-Wright. Or even a fight like Cotto-Judah because they want to watch some quality boxing and have a tool to turn some friends onto the sport.
cc
I knew I'd feel bad about my post. heheh I was forced to watch the Cotto-Judah fight online a week later, I avoided all boxing news. But some dude said it went to the 7th round..... right when I heard that, I had a bigger feeling Cotto won. He ruined it, even more, for me. Because Miguel always turns up the heat at about the 5th. ....
... It sucks watching everything online. Promoters and HBO make it hard for us.
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
But yet i devote most of my days to boxing
But alls cool bro
Agh man I'm sorry. I only hit the strip once.
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Originally Posted by global
This pay to play attitude is pretty crazy to me. I go to fights, I can't afford to go to my favorite fighters fights but I still go to smaller fights because I love to watch boxing, live at the event or on television. Anyone who appreciates boxing truely has a voice concerning it, because without them boxing wouldn't be important the way it is past competition. You've been to some big fights I'm assuming, have you seen some of the people there? They just want to say they've been to the big fight but you catch them not watching the fight and just talking the whole time, they shouldn't have more of a voice than some kid just getting into boxing and watching it on youtube, or someone who would pay the money to watch Hopkins-Wright. Or even a fight like Cotto-Judah because they want to watch some quality boxing and have a tool to turn some friends onto the sport.
cc
I knew I'd feel bad about my post. heheh I was forced to watch the Cotto-Judah fight online a week later, I avoided all boxing news. But some dude said it went to the 7th round..... right when I heard that, I had a bigger feeling Cotto won. He ruined it, even more, for me. Because Miguel always turns up the heat at about the 5th. ....
... It sucks watching everything online. Promoters and HBO make it hard for us.
Lol :P
There is none more cautious then i on a sunday morning about to watch a long awaited fight..
i can find the fights with my eyes closed and i dont open them till i have it on my media player :P
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
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Originally Posted by SeanE
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by SeanE
I prefer fighter come into a fight with the intention of putting their opponent on the canvas. No, not exactly. I like fighters who that are want to land as many punches as possible. I like most of the guys you mentioned, and most of those guys do just that. Mayweather is the clear exception on that list. I like guys who come into fights looking for the KO, even if they don't have the power to get the KO. Even though Malignaggi has ZERO power, he engages and makes an exciting fight. Winky doesn't KO anybody, but I love his steady, relentless pressure combined with his defensive skill.
Many people don't agree with me on this one, but IMHO, if don't come into a fight trying to put hurting on your opponent, you aren't doing your job. For example, Floyd should have tried to stop Oscar. He dominated him, yet his fought a boring, overly defensive fight that made the outcome closer than it should have been on the cards. Had Floyd taken more chances and tried to stop Oscar instead of coasting to an easy decision, he would have won a UD by a large margin. Sure, I enjoyed his slick defense. I'm a smart, hardcore boxing fan and I appreciate that style, but to me it's lazy and a little boring. I prefer guys like Duran, Hagler, Frazier. That's why Shane Mosley is probably my favorite active boxer. He's slick and fast, but he lookes to engage. He'll take one to give three. I'm not a big fan of take 3 to give 1 guys. I love guys with defensive who still can brawl. I'd rather watch Kelly Pavlik any day over Floyd Mayweather. Pavlik could have run and pot-shoted his way to a UD over Miranda. Instead, he ate a few punches, took a few chances, and gave us all FOTY candidate.
Are you a Paul Williams fan then?
Define fan. I've seen him two or three times and I enjoy watching him, and I'm looking forward to his fight with Tony, but I like Margarito, too and I'm not sure who I'll be rooting for. I guess I'm a fan but not a fan-boy.
That's pretty much what i meant, I don't think he's a world beater yet, but his work rate is phenomenal. I love watching his fights, and I think his fight with Margarito is just what they both need.
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
But yet i devote most of my days to boxing
But alls cool bro
Agh man I'm sorry. I only hit the strip once.
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Originally Posted by global
This pay to play attitude is pretty crazy to me. I go to fights, I can't afford to go to my favorite fighters fights but I still go to smaller fights because I love to watch boxing, live at the event or on television. Anyone who appreciates boxing truely has a voice concerning it, because without them boxing wouldn't be important the way it is past competition. You've been to some big fights I'm assuming, have you seen some of the people there? They just want to say they've been to the big fight but you catch them not watching the fight and just talking the whole time, they shouldn't have more of a voice than some kid just getting into boxing and watching it on youtube, or someone who would pay the money to watch Hopkins-Wright. Or even a fight like Cotto-Judah because they want to watch some quality boxing and have a tool to turn some friends onto the sport.
cc
I knew I'd feel bad about my post. heheh I was forced to watch the Cotto-Judah fight online a week later, I avoided all boxing news. But some dude said it went to the 7th round..... right when I heard that, I had a bigger feeling Cotto won. He ruined it, even more, for me. Because Miguel always turns up the heat at about the 5th. ....
... It sucks watching everything online. Promoters and HBO make it hard for us.
I had to do a job helping my girlfriend being one of those annoying people that has to ask you if you would like to take a survey at a mall for a research company. There was nothing shady about it but it was still not something I ever want to do again. Then to make things worse its a real touristy mall in Orlando and there are a lot of British tourists that end up there, long story short I missed the fight the other night and overheard a bit too much. Its cool though i'd rather be screwed by chance than the promoters and television execs.
Re: y dont people like slick boxers
If it's taught in a gym and a fighter can actually execute in a ring and win a fight on points while taking minimal punishment, more power to him. In fact you should turn your hating to idiot coaches and fighters(cotto) who is 1 dimensional and when faced with a slugger who could give and recieve got broke down. Thats negligent, unprofessional, and his trainer should get locked up for not teaching him to be a "slick boxer".
BTW I think it was B Hop that told Pavlik you need to get some of that slickness that black fighters have.
I appreciate all of boxing, from the boring dudes like Valuev to the Artist like Mayweather. If your only watching for blood, guts, and wild bar room overhand rights..........Just switch to the UFC.
"Hit and not get hit!"
PS. I love slick boxer/punchers
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agree wid that ^^
luv boxin...dont just look for knockouts and stoppages
n talkin of slick boxers i jus luv collozo
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Will someone define "slick boxer" without the use of examples? What makes a boxer slick? What are characteristics of a slick boxer?
Overly defensive fighters are at times boring to watch even if their defensive displays are marvelous. I prefer to see fantastic offensive displays. On the other hand, a good combination of the two, is probably best.
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I dont like slick fighters that have no power or do not try and knock people out like Winky Wright, Malignaggi, and Cory Spinks.
I like Roy because he would knock people out. Mayweather and Hopkins are a toss up, when they let their hands go they are fun to watch but can shell up, pot shot and bore the hell out of me.....
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I LOVE slick fighters. I typically don't like fighters that aren't slick.
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Hunter
I dont like slick fighters that have no power or do not try and knock people out like Winky Wright, Malignaggi, and Cory Spinks...
Guzman, Malinaggi, Calderon, Mijares...
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Rantcatrat
Will someone define "slick boxer" without the use of examples? What makes a boxer slick? What are characteristics of a slick boxer? .
Well maybe:
A slick boxer is a fighter who is able to pull manuveres cleanly and is very technically good.
