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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by zhubin
Floyd is a highly skilled fighter with great defense...so i don't think he would embarrass himself against any of the three (or 4, if you include Hagler)...BUT...it would be a tough match up for him against any of them...especially the larger guys. Some people have mentioned how Tommy didn't fight well on the inside...but how the hell would Floyd get in the inside against such a rangy, powerful fighter like Hearns (and don't forget, Hearns had a tremendous jab). Duran would be his best chance...and Duran was a MONSTER puncher who pressured you...so that would be a risky fight as well...and we all know...Floyd doesn't take big risks.
CC,good post.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that would ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather its not that easy to get inside against someone of the size of Hearns and as they were trying Hearns would hit them with right hand Hearns wouldn't just stand there and let Mayweather work on inside he would be on his toes and ready to blast that right hand out when Mayweather gets close.
Mayweather hasn't even been closed to sparked by any punch. I don't think Mayweather could get inside early on in the fight, but I think he has the reflexes to stay out of the way of almost everyone Hearns would throw. Even though he got totally outboxed Randy Shields was able to work inside on Hearns for 12 rounds before he got stopped by cuts. Leonard was able to get inside on Hearns relatively easily. While Hearns was tall he was also a stick. I don't think Hearns had a very strong lower body which allowed him to move in and out quickly. Hearns would begin the fight by chasing Mayweather around with his jab and occasional right hand, but eventually Mayweather would slip them, and get into the pocket where he would take Hearns apart one punch at a time. Mayweather is very good against taller opponents, and his left jab to the body would take some speed out of Hearns. I think if Hearns had better stamina he would easily win, but he doesn't.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Mayweather has never faced a guy of hearns reach and Leonard did get in after taking a beating to the face and his eyes were closing i don't think PBF has the balls to try to get close to hearns.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I think leonard was better then hearns and duran and think out of the 3 he be the hardest for PBf.
I also think Leonard was the best of the lot....And would beat PBF at welter.
I think they all beat him , i mean come on hes not fooking superman lol
I think Floyd would beat Duran but lose to Leonard and Hearns. Floyd is good now with the guys who he is fighting, but those guys back then were all that level. Floyd would be in the company of guys just as good as him only bigger. He would not beat Tommy Hearns no way. Leonard no way either. Duran? Duran is just the guy Floyd could beat. A good boxer beats Duran.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
hmmmm i would say PBF is slower then SRL....especially at combo punching personally! All depends how you rated the fab 4 i suppose...and in what order! I think PBF would be beaten by SRL, Hagler...not sure about Hearns, becuase he was such a tricky customer which the rangey power punches...i think Mayweather vs Duran would be veryyyyy interesting!
PBF has more explosive speed, but he doesn't throw combinations the same way. 130-135 pound Mayweather was faster than Leonard, but latter on I think they equaled out in speed or maybe little in favor of Mayweather. I think Mayweather would beat Duran in close fights from 135-147 or split wins like Leonard did with Duran, I think he would go on the offensive against Leonard like he did against Judah, and win a close decision. Against Hearns I think he gets outboxed early because of Hearns' height and speed, but then Mayweather will work inside and eventually take over the fight as Hearns would tire out. Hagler... Mayweather would have never fought Hagler.
While I know these guys are all bigger than Mayweather, and comparible athletes I think he is a more schooled fighter than any of them.
Its easy to say Mayweather would work on inside against Hearns but i disagree you honestly think he would work on inside with Hearns power that would ko Mayweather instantly if he hit Mayweather with his right hand which he did too mostly everyone Hearns was monster at Welterweight and would beat stuffing out of Mayweather its not that easy to get inside against someone of the size of Hearns and as they were trying Hearns would hit them with right hand Hearns wouldn't just stand there and let Mayweather work on inside he would be on his toes and ready to blast that right hand out when Mayweather gets close.
Mayweather hasn't even been closed to sparked by any punch. I don't think Mayweather could get inside early on in the fight, but I think he has the reflexes to stay out of the way of almost everyone Hearns would throw. Even though he got totally outboxed Randy Shields was able to work inside on Hearns for 12 rounds before he got stopped by cuts. Leonard was able to get inside on Hearns relatively easily. While Hearns was tall he was also a stick. I don't think Hearns had a very strong lower body which allowed him to move in and out quickly. Hearns would begin the fight by chasing Mayweather around with his jab and occasional right hand, but eventually Mayweather would slip them, and get into the pocket where he would take Hearns apart one punch at a time. Mayweather is very good against taller opponents, and his left jab to the body would take some speed out of Hearns. I think if Hearns had better stamina he would easily win, but he doesn't.
When has Mayweather ever been hit though only against Corley.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
i think pbf could of beat duran
srl it depends how suga ray fights
hearns no way pbf beats him
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I think he woulda done alright.
It would be the classic case of on any given night at their best they could all defeat each other!
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
He clearly loses to all 3, I don't see how anyone says otherwise. He probably wouldn't fight them in truth. He may fight Duran, but he would duck Hearns like the plague and probably would find a way to not fight Leonard, and if he did he loses.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Hagler and Hearns would straight KO mayweather
Duran would make him quit in the late rounds
Leonard would beat PBF by UD
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by headson
i think pbf could of beat duran
srl it depends how suga ray fights
hearns no way pbf beats him
Your 15 years old u never even saw Tommy in his prime you are caught up in the Mayweather hype , he hasnt fought and great welters although he is a fine fighter no way on earth does he beat Thomas Hearns , and i mean NO WAY
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Anyone who says Floyd wouldn't be competitive with the others is disrespecting Floyd's talent. I don't even like Mayweather but you have to respect his ability. Sure Duran beat Leonard in the 1st but Ray made him look silly in the return. Theres no reason to believe that Mayweather couldn't do the same. As for being KO'd Floyd's defense ranks among some of the best of all time, plus the fact he's been in there with some big punches & has never suffered a legitimate knock down leads me to think he would be extremely competitive against these greats!
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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If he wants to call him self the pound for pound best i think he should take Winky no problem right.
Come on he is the p4p 1! He has beaten most of the guys around his weight, he's already moved up in weight way too much and even if I don't like him I think he's the best fighter todey if he comes out retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if someone in this forum wanted him to fight wladimir...
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Originally Posted by MikeTysonKnockOut
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Originally Posted by Mr140
If he wants to call him self the pound for pound best i think he should take Winky no problem right.
Come on he is the p4p 1! He has beaten most of the guys around his weight, he's already moved up in weight way too much and even if I don't like him I think he's the best fighter todey if he comes out retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if someone in this forum wanted him to fight wladimir...
i know right, totally agree....it reminds of roy jones as many people most times wonder if he could have beaten the ATGs like ALi, Louis, Holyfield, lewis, marciano, and totally forget that those guys are fucking heavyweights....
Floyd only had three fights at 147...he's a 135-140 pounder and they say if he's p4p best he should take winky easy or even taylor....how dumb is that...even if he beat vitaly they'd say vitaly was shot after his fight with lewis that's why floyd beat him....
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by headson
i think pbf could of beat duran
srl it depends how suga ray fights
hearns no way pbf beats him
Your 15 years old u never even saw Tommy in his prime you are caught up in the Mayweather hype , he hasnt fought and great welters although he is a fine fighter no way on earth does he beat Thomas Hearns , and i mean NO WAY
I think he was saying PBF wouldn't beat him.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by headson
i think pbf could of beat duran
srl it depends how suga ray fights
hearns no way pbf beats him
Your 15 years old u never even saw Tommy in his prime you are caught up in the Mayweather hype , he hasnt fought and great welters although he is a fine fighter no way on earth does he beat Thomas Hearns , and i mean NO WAY
I think he was saying PBF wouldn't beat him.
ahh sorry i think u r right lol
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
80-90% of the people on this forum were'nt alive when Sugar Ray Robinson was in his prime, that doesn't stop a person obtaining footage of his fights and appreciating his greatness.
Why does erbody gotta dogg all the younger members? Cos they're easy targets?
If he thinks that PBF would knock out marvin hagler in the first round with his jab he's still perfectly entitled to his opinion.
Il take my SC's now :laugh:
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yes and you are entitled to your average 1 also donny ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
only joking :)
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HaHa no worries Dark lord, u caught me pretty good ther :)
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
look at all the controversy i started wow
let me say
tommy hearns jab and power will be to much for pbf
still i like to say im young SO
i love the sport
someday i'll be in the sport
damn let a playa breath
plus if ya saw me ya would think i would be a grown ass man
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Most championship fights then were fifteen rounders. I opine that PBF has to knock-out any of the three during the early rounds or else he will be in trouble during the championship rounds (remember, we take into consideration the mindset of each fighter during his prime). Those rounds you are slower, very difficult to evade so you have to fight (please look at fights of that era and you will see what I mean). Even Ali, tired and slowed down during those rounds.
Prime Duran vs. Prime PBF - Duran's prime was not when he fought Leonard. Watch his earlier fights. He was a scrapper...much faster and meaner. Verdict - if Duran survives the 7th, he picks PBF apart.
Prime Sugar Ray vs. Prime PBF - very difficult to decide (mirror image). Who has more heart will be the final decider. Both men are pure boxers. Sweet science applies to both. I have it even going to the 8th. I do not think PBF nor Ray can knock each other out before the eight. A lucky punch or better conditioning will decide.
Prime Hearns vs. Prime SRL - Hearns does have the speed and power to knock PBF during the early rounds. A repeat of the SRL - Hearns fight (which SRL won). Question is, will PBF have the heart to go toe-to -toe with the Hitman during the championship rounds like leonard did?
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by halo
Most championship fights then were fifteen rounders. I opine that PBF has to knock-out any of the three during the early rounds or else he will be in trouble during the championship rounds (remember, we take into consideration the mindset of each fighter during his prime). Those rounds you are slower, very difficult to evade so you have to fight (please look at fights of that era and you will see what I mean). Even Ali, tired and slowed down during those rounds.
Prime Duran vs. Prime PBF - Duran's prime was not when he fought Leonard. Watch his earlier fights. He was a scrapper...much faster and meaner. Verdict - if Duran survives the 7th, he picks PBF apart.
Prime Sugar Ray vs. Prime PBF - very difficult to decide (mirror image). Who has more heart will be the final decider. Both men are pure boxers. Sweet science applies to both. I have it even going to the 8th. I do not think PBF nor Ray can knock each other out before the eight. A lucky punch or better conditioning will decide.
Prime Hearns vs. Prime SRL - Hearns does have the speed and power to knock PBF during the early rounds. A repeat of the SRL - Hearns fight (which SRL won). Question is, will PBF have the heart to go toe-to -toe with the Hitman during the championship rounds like leonard did?
I think you're giving PBF a little too much credit. IF Duran makes the 7th? Are you kidding? WHat the hell could PBF possibly do to make it so Duran doesn't survive the 7th? PBF has problems with guys like Jesus Chavez and Castillo and you think he has a chance with Duran? AT least you said Duran wins though.
PBF is way more defensive than a prime SRL at 147, and SRL is bigger, more powerful, and just as quick, but let his hands go more and was plain and simple better at that weight. SRL has tyhe ability to put PBF out, PBF can't say the same.
There is no way on this planet or any other PBF beats Hearns. There is just no way. It took a great pressure fighter or someone with a lot of power who might land a big shot to beat Hearns, and PBF was neither. Hearns by KO.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
No waY would Pbf ever have entered a ring with Tommy. He's already selective about who he fights (strangely floating by Margarito ^-^) But Tommy Hearns? I dont care if Floyd can go 12 rounds and only get hit with mayb20% of punches. All tommy Hearns needed was a 1% connect percentage and there were problems.
yeah I agree with you and ice cold Donny. CC for both of you.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by halo
Most championship fights then were fifteen rounders. I opine that PBF has to knock-out any of the three during the early rounds or else he will be in trouble during the championship rounds (remember, we take into consideration the mindset of each fighter during his prime). Those rounds you are slower, very difficult to evade so you have to fight (please look at fights of that era and you will see what I mean). Even Ali, tired and slowed down during those rounds.
Prime Duran vs. Prime PBF - Duran's prime was not when he fought Leonard. Watch his earlier fights. He was a scrapper...much faster and meaner. Verdict - if Duran survives the 7th, he picks PBF apart.
Prime Sugar Ray vs. Prime PBF - very difficult to decide (mirror image). Who has more heart will be the final decider. Both men are pure boxers. Sweet science applies to both. I have it even going to the 8th. I do not think PBF nor Ray can knock each other out before the eight. A lucky punch or better conditioning will decide.
Prime Hearns vs. Prime SRL - Hearns does have the speed and power to knock PBF during the early rounds. A repeat of the SRL - Hearns fight (which SRL won). Question is, will PBF have the heart to go toe-to -toe with the Hitman during the championship rounds like leonard did?
I think you're giving PBF a little too much credit. IF Duran makes the 7th? Are you kidding? WHat the hell could PBF possibly do to make it so Duran doesn't survive the 7th? PBF has problems with guys like Jesus Chavez and Castillo and you think he has a chance with Duran? AT least you said Duran wins though.
PBF is way more defensive than a prime SRL at 147, and SRL is bigger, more powerful, and just as quick, but let his hands go more and was plain and simple better at that weight. SRL has tyhe ability to put PBF out, PBF can't say the same.
There is no way on this planet or any other PBF beats Hearns. There is just no way. It took a great pressure fighter or someone with a lot of power who might land a big shot to beat Hearns, and PBF was neither. Hearns by KO.
Duran in known to be a late round fighter right? Very durable. So he takes it easy. I am sure he can weather anything PBF can throw. Remember I said "if". That is a BIG IF he he he. My forecast would be Prime Duran (pre SRL fight) with his work rate will win against PBF via KO or decision.
I have to agree that SRL lets his hands go more than PBF. And he was never afraid to fight the best there is. Never ducked anyone. Very little politics then at those weight levels. Still if PBF will not commit, it will be one boring fight to watch and a difficult one to judge, wouldn't it? This is where the championship rounds play a major role. Both will be tired and both will have to commit. And we both know who has more experience in that territory, both in conditioning and in committing.
Thomas Hearns will not allow you to dictate the fight. You have to commit with him or he imposes his will. So I agree it would be very difficult for PBF to win other than a decision. And we would know what that would mean with a Hearns PBF fight. A lot of pot shots and movement and holding. Only Hearns knows what to do when a boxer tries to run away. Watch his fights and see how he corners his opponent and flail away. Actually, Duran has the same style, only rougher and meaner.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by halo
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
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Originally Posted by halo
Most championship fights then were fifteen rounders. I opine that PBF has to knock-out any of the three during the early rounds or else he will be in trouble during the championship rounds (remember, we take into consideration the mindset of each fighter during his prime). Those rounds you are slower, very difficult to evade so you have to fight (please look at fights of that era and you will see what I mean). Even Ali, tired and slowed down during those rounds.
Prime Duran vs. Prime PBF - Duran's prime was not when he fought Leonard. Watch his earlier fights. He was a scrapper...much faster and meaner. Verdict - if Duran survives the 7th, he picks PBF apart.
Prime Sugar Ray vs. Prime PBF - very difficult to decide (mirror image). Who has more heart will be the final decider. Both men are pure boxers. Sweet science applies to both. I have it even going to the 8th. I do not think PBF nor Ray can knock each other out before the eight. A lucky punch or better conditioning will decide.
Prime Hearns vs. Prime SRL - Hearns does have the speed and power to knock PBF during the early rounds. A repeat of the SRL - Hearns fight (which SRL won). Question is, will PBF have the heart to go toe-to -toe with the Hitman during the championship rounds like leonard did?
I think you're giving PBF a little too much credit. IF Duran makes the 7th? Are you kidding? WHat the hell could PBF possibly do to make it so Duran doesn't survive the 7th? PBF has problems with guys like Jesus Chavez and Castillo and you think he has a chance with Duran? AT least you said Duran wins though.
PBF is way more defensive than a prime SRL at 147, and SRL is bigger, more powerful, and just as quick, but let his hands go more and was plain and simple better at that weight. SRL has tyhe ability to put PBF out, PBF can't say the same.
There is no way on this planet or any other PBF beats Hearns. There is just no way. It took a great pressure fighter or someone with a lot of power who might land a big shot to beat Hearns, and PBF was neither. Hearns by KO.
Duran in known to be a late round fighter right? Very durable. So he takes it easy. I am sure he can weather anything PBF can throw. Remember I said "if". That is a BIG IF he he he. My forecast would be Prime Duran (pre SRL fight) with his work rate will win against PBF via KO or decision.
I have to agree that SRL lets his hands go more than PBF. And he was never afraid to fight the best there is. Never ducked anyone. Very little politics then at those weight levels. Still if PBF will not commit, it will be one boring fight to watch and a difficult one to judge, wouldn't it? This is where the championship rounds play a major role. Both will be tired and both will have to commit. And we both know who has more experience in that territory, both in conditioning and in committing.
Thomas Hearns will not allow you to dictate the fight. You have to commit with him or he imposes his will. So I agree it would be very difficult for PBF to win other than a decision. And we would know what that would mean with a Hearns PBF fight. A lot of pot shots and movement and holding. Only Hearns knows what to do when a boxer tries to run away. Watch his fights and see how he corners his opponent and flail away. Actually, Duran has the same style, only rougher and meaner.
Hearns was more a pure boxer than Duran.
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CC back legend, great posting.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
No waY would Pbf ever have entered a ring with Tommy. He's already selective about who he fights (strangely floating by Margarito ^-^) But Tommy Hearns? I dont care if Floyd can go 12 rounds and only get hit with mayb20% of punches. All tommy Hearns needed was a 1% connect percentage and there were problems.
yeah I agree with you and ice cold Donny. CC for both of you.
:coolclick: back bro.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
I think Floyd would do better than his father and uncle Roger did. He was more polished, and had a better sense of rhythm.
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the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
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the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
Please tell me you didn't just compare Roberto Duran to Arturo Gatti....
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the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
Please tell me you didn't just compare Roberto Duran to Arturo Gatti....
in terms of how much punishment he'd take yeah..but no i totally understand how absurd it sounds..because duran was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY stronger than gatti so it would have taken at least 10 rounds before his corner threw in the towel...
here's the final punch stats
MAYWEATHER DURAN
POWER PUNCHES
337 of 478 = 70% 112 of 978 = 11%
JABS
40 of 112 = 35% 29 of 134 = 21%
who can blame them for stopping it.... ;)
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the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
Please tell me you didn't just compare Roberto Duran to Arturo Gatti....
in terms of how much punishment he'd take yeah..but no i totally understand how absurd it sounds..because duran was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY stronger than gatti so it would have taken at least 10 rounds before his corner threw in the towel...
here's the final punch stats
MAYWEATHER DURAN
POWER PUNCHES
337 of 478 = 70% 112 of 978 = 11%
JABS
40 of 112 = 35% 29 of 134 = 21%
who can blame them for stopping it.... ;)
I liked your comments when we were discussing Roy Jones but this bro was a silly statement in my eyes.
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It never fails to astound me how some people have put Floyd on such a pedestal...where they actually think he could beat fighters like Duran, Hearns, and Leonard. I have mentioned this so often...Floyd is a great fighter...no doubt...but he has NEVER faced the level of opposition anywhere close to those legends. And unless you are just a pure Floyd jocker...you will not use Castillo and Delahoya as examples to refute this point. I also mentioned earlier in this thread that Floyd is talented enough and has a strong enough defense....to not embarrass himself against anyone. But all three of those fights would have been BIG risks for him. And we all know Floyd is not a big risk taker. He would NEVER fight Hearns...a fighter who had a tremendous jab, was rangy, and was one of the most devastating punchers of all time. Leonard would also have been a tough fought for the obvious reasons...he was extremely quick and slick and one of the smartest fighters in the history of the sport...Zab Judah he was not. Floyd might have had his best chance against Duran...but that too would have been a HUGE risk. Duran was a great boxer...pure and simple. He applied great pressure and was a TREMENDOUS puncher. So while we should all respect Floyd's talents....lets not get carried away and start thinking that guys like Castillo, Oscar, Judah, and Gatti (the biggest names on Floyd's resume) in anyway would represent how Mayweather would have faired against 3 LEGENDS.
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the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
CC Jones Jr. Although I agree with Sweetpea, Gatti to Duran is stretching it. Duran was a technical fighter and put his punches together better than Gatti. Just a much better fighter. His level of fighting was high.
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
the very fact that floyd is smaller than leonard and hearns is why they'd be favored...at 140 he beats both of them hearns is probably more of a threat because of his range...and duran...please :lolhaha: can you say GATTI?
CC Jones Jr. Although I agree with Sweetpea, Gatti to Duran is stretching it. Duran was a technical fighter and put his punches together better than Gatti. Just a much better fighter. His level of fighting was high.
I can't believe some people are comparing Duran to Gatti thats ridiculous.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
It's inconceivable to favour PBF against SRL and Hearns at 140, as matches would never have been made at that weight. Both SRL and Hearns were full welters and always fought north of 140. (SRL could theoretically have made 140 at the very start of his career as he was 141 or 142, but surely we're talking prime.) Hell, I'd fancy PBF against Hagler at 140, because you'd have to chop off both Hagler's arms for him to make the weight - but PBF wouldn't stop him. ;)
For the record, PBF isn't the natural welter that SRL was so would be disadvantaged. SRL would be altogether stronger, and much the better puncher at 147.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I can't believe some people are comparing Duran to Gatti thats ridiculous.
I know right....apparently JONESJRMAYWEATHER likes the flashy guys a little too much and doesn't realize actually how GREAT Roberto Duran was, on offense and defense!
He had a really good tight defense on the inside much better than pretty much everyone from 135-154 today barring of course Winky Wright.
When you talk about Roberto Duran, you talk about one of the BEST pound for pound boxers OF ALL TIME
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
:coolclick: Lyle.Durans resume is far superior to Mayweathers. I think if they fought it could be a difficult fight for both guys, but reguardless of who would win Duran is the greater fighter.
SRL, even though he was flashy, was never afraid to mix it up and as Teddy Atlas would say "Act lika a fighter." Floyd is more concerned with winning than putting on a show and giving people a fight. Duran, Hearns, Hagler, and Leonard would go to war for a win, or make a classic fight in defeat. Floyd has never had a truly entertaining fight so hes not the entertainer he thinks he is.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
Well you see the first Leonard fight Duran BAITED Ray to stand and fight and whaddaya know it played into Duran's favor.
Who would have thought all you needed to do is be an asshole curse his family in spanish and then spit at his wife and kids to draw him into a fight......if Tommy Hearns did that first he would have KO'd Ray in 3!
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
:coolclick: Lyle nice clip.
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Re: If PBF fought in the era Leonard, Hearns and Duran how do you think he do
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Originally Posted by BoomBoom
:coolclick: Lyle.Durans resume is far superior to Mayweathers. I think if they fought it could be a difficult fight for both guys, but reguardless of who would win Duran is the greater fighter.
SRL, even though he was flashy, was never afraid to mix it up and as Teddy Atlas would say "Act lika a fighter." Floyd is more concerned with winning than putting on a show and giving people a fight. Duran, Hearns, Hagler, and Leonard would go to war for a win, or make a classic fight in defeat. Floyd has never had a truly entertaining fight so hes not the entertainer he thinks he is.
I agree 100%!!!
