Hatton fans booing national anthems?

Why call someone a mindless sheep if that person respects where you are coming from ?
Maybe people are being polite when they silence during a national anthem

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

From Dan Rafael of ESPN today:

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Few fans are as passionate as the Brits are when they get behind a fighter like they have Hatton. But as great as it was to see all those thousands who traveled to see Hatton-Castillo (and to hear their inventive songs about him), many of those same fans displayed disgusting and disrespectful behavior. You didn't see it on HBO's broadcast because it happened just before the telecast began, but they booed throughout the American and Mexican national anthems. That's like school on Saturday: No class.

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I'm not overly-patriotic, so normally stuff like this doesn't bother me... but it still shows a lack of class.

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Our British Fans in Boxing and Football aren't very classy at all. Theres far worse but were pretty bad.

It feels right though. Im actually compelled to 'boo' too :-\

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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That's not old school, it's just plain decent and polite

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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I just think there are better ways to express national pride. Our national anthem is about saving the fucking queen. It has nothing to do with sport, so seriously, whats the point?

No fighters national anthem should be booed out of respect for him as a fighter and his country.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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I just think there are better ways to express national pride. Our national anthem is about saving the F****** queen. It has nothing to do with sport, so seriously, whats the point?

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It's not so much the words it's the bringing together of everybody that means somethin

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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I just think there are better ways to express national pride. Our national anthem is about saving the F****** queen. It has nothing to do with sport, so seriously, whats the point?

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It's not so much the words it's the bringing together of everybody that means somethin

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Doesn't singing the Ricky Hatton songs bring everyone together in a fight?

If you think they shouldn't play anthems at sporting events, that's a different argument.

The fact remains that it's just stupid to boo an anthem.

When Morales and Pacquiao fought, there were huge Mexican and Filipino fanbases there, and both showed a lot of pride and cheered loudly during their own anthems. But you didn't hear anybody booing the other side's anthem. Because they were acting the way you're supposed to act, they weren't acting like jackasses.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

If you think they shouldn't play anthems at sporting events, that's a different argument.

The fact remains that it's just stupid to boo an anthem.

When Morales and Pacquiao fought, there were huge Mexican and Filipino fanbases there, and both showed a lot of pride and cheered loudly during their own anthems. But you didn't hear anybody booing the other side's anthem. Because they were acting the way you're supposed to act, they weren't acting like jackasses.

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Fair point. I think the booing is done more in jest at the fighter and his supporters, rather than the country. In my eyes, when they sung the Mexican national anthem, they were doing it in support of their fighter, and the booing is aimed in support of their own fighter, not against the country itself.

Songs about hatton are fine.. But booing a national anthem is bang out of order

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Songs about hatton are fine.. But booing a national anthem is bang out of order

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Hence why they shouldn't bother with them. People just get pissed off, and it causes more trouble than it's worth. You won't stop some dickhead from booing. It's nothing compared with football here. Sometimes, during minute silences for the death of people, opposing fans heckle and boo. That is disrespectful.

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Songs about hatton are fine.. But booing a national anthem is bang out of order

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Hence why they shouldn't bother with them. People just get pissed off, and it causes more trouble than it's worth. You won't stop some dickhead from booing. It's nothing compared with football here. Sometimes, during minute silences for the death of people, opposing fans heckle and boo. That is disrespectful.

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Yea thats bad..

I wouldnt say scrap anthems though..

I mean its too hard to explain.. But just think about it..

Say you got Miguel Cotto vs Antonio margarito..

A full house of mexicans and puerto ricans.. And you know these latino cats get passionate..

Its just nice and a real atmousphere setter to have you national anthem sung!

Just like pac vs Morales.. That was a really cool couple anthems before the fight..Sets a mood

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Songs about hatton are fine.. But booing a national anthem is bang out of order

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Hence why they shouldn't bother with them. People just get pissed off, and it causes more trouble than it's worth. You won't stop some dickhead from booing. It's nothing compared with football here. Sometimes, during minute silences for the death of people, opposing fans heckle and boo. That is disrespectful.

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Yea thats bad..

I wouldnt say scrap anthems though..

I mean its too hard to explain.. But just think about it..

Say you got Miguel Cotto vs Antonio margarito..

A full house of mexicans and puerto ricans.. And you know these latino cats get passionate..

Its just nice and a real atmousphere setter to have you national anthem sung!

Just like pac vs Morales.. That was a really cool couple anthems before the fight..Sets a mood

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If you like it then fair enough. Maybe because I hate our national anthem and have no real pride singing it makes me want rid. I mean, have you heard it? I'd boo ours, it's terrible.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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;D Pride in what exactly? Define Britishness? What makes you think I want to be brought together with you lot? ;D They should have more fun songs like Gay Bar. Sing along to that one you monkeys. 8)

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

Why call someone a mindless sheep if that person respects where you are coming from ?
Maybe people are being polite when they silence during a national anthem

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I call it mindless because I imagine very few people examine what they are doing or why. You get taught to do as you are told from a very early age and there is a forced community spirit about it which I think is false. All that nonsence, flag pledge, stand up for our national anthem? Would the Queen stand up for me? Bollocks.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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;D Pride in what exactly? Define Britishness? What makes you think I want to be brought together with you lot? ;D They should have more fun songs like Gay Bar. Sing along to that one you monkeys. 8)

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Well if ya don't fukk off somewhere lese rather than whinging and whining like a bitter old gasser ;D

Best case of this was Manfredo v Calzaghe and the Boo's he got were Quality ;D
Don't think it was anything anti American if i'm honest ...more the fact he's a prize c*nt and didn't the Welsh know it ;D

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I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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YOU! I WANNA TAKE YOU TO A GAY BAR!

You're right, that was fun to sing. (cue the gay jokes coming my way now)
;D Pride in what exactly? Define Britishness? What makes you think I want to be brought together with you lot? ;D They should have more fun songs like Gay Bar. Sing along to that one you monkeys. 8)

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

Why call someone a mindless sheep if that person respects where you are coming from ?
Maybe people are being polite when they silence during a national anthem

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I call it mindless because I imagine very few people examine what they are doing or why. You get taught to do as you are told from a very early age and there is a forced community spirit about it which I think is false. All that nonsence, flag pledge, stand up for our national anthem? Would the Queen stand up for me? Bollocks.

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What was your childhood trauma ? ;)

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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer

Why call someone a mindless sheep if that person respects where you are coming from ?
Maybe people are being polite when they silence during a national anthem

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I call it mindless because I imagine very few people examine what they are doing or why. You get taught to do as you are told from a very early age and there is a forced community spirit about it which I think is false. All that nonsence, flag pledge, stand up for our national anthem? Would the Queen stand up for me? Bollocks.

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To be fair, at her age she can barely stand up at all ;D

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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;D Pride in what exactly? Define Britishness? What makes you think I want to be brought together with you lot? ;D They should have more fun songs like Gay Bar. Sing along to that one you monkeys. 8)

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Well if ya don't fukk off somewhere lese rather than whinging and whining like a bitter old gasser ;D

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Oi Slappy 8) it's you lot complaining about a whole bunch of nothing, boo-hiss panto & getting your knickers in a knot, I don't care 8)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm oldschool on this one, I think you should keep you gob shut when other national anthems are playing and sing your heart and when yours is playing

What's wrong with having some national pride - some miserable fukkas about

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;D Pride in what exactly? Define Britishness? What makes you think I want to be brought together with you lot? ;D They should have more fun songs like Gay Bar. Sing along to that one you monkeys. 8)

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Well if ya don't fukk off somewhere lese rather than whinging and whining like a bitter old gasser ;D

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Oi Slappy 8) it's you lot complaining about a whole bunch of nothing, boo-hiss panto & getting your knickers in a knot, I don't care 8)

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

From Dan Rafael of ESPN today:

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Few fans are as passionate as the Brits are when they get behind a fighter like they have Hatton. But as great as it was to see all those thousands who traveled to see Hatton-Castillo (and to hear their inventive songs about him), many of those same fans displayed disgusting and disrespectful behavior. You didn't see it on HBO's broadcast because it happened just before the telecast began, but they booed throughout the American and Mexican national anthems. That's like school on Saturday: No class.

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I'm not overly-patriotic, so normally stuff like this doesn't bother me... but it still shows a lack of class.

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A national anthem is irrelevant to a fight anyway. Patriotism and nationalism are vague jingoistic absurdities. It a guy against a guy. No world war.

They can boo as long as they like. They paid for the tickets. Nothing like a bit booing. National anthems are silly.

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....Let me see someone boo the American National Anthem.....it'll be the last song they ever hear!




You don't have to sing along or anything but show some respect....I damn sure respect other countries....it's what everyone is taught as an American now, "Americans have to be nice to everyone".....well I draw the line at people who don't respect us back.








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CC from me on that.....If I was at an event and someone BOOED the Anthem that would be a fight indeed!!!!!!

I would not disreaspect the Anthem of another country....And If I was next to one of my fellow Americans and they booed the Anthem of another country whil playing I sure as HELL!!!....Would Address it!!!!.....

I am all about good fun and a bit of teasing but that is blantant disrespect......

I also do not go with that Racial stuff either....

Same applies.....If I was next to someone and they started calling out Racial Slurs I would Address it....I don't care what Race or Nationality they are......

AS Wacko said there is no room for that in Boxing...ON this Form or anywhere else for that matter.....

And if there is any of it on this Form...Who Ever it is Will Be Banned from this Site ASAP

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....Let me see someone boo the American National Anthem.....it'll be the last song they ever hear!




You don't have to sing along or anything but show some respect....I damn sure respect other countries....it's what everyone is taught as an American now, "Americans have to be nice to everyone".....well I draw the line at people who don't respect us back.








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CC from me on that.....If I was at an event and someone BOOED the Anthem that would be a fight indeed!!!!!!

I would not disreaspect the Anthem of another country....And If I was next to one of my fellow Americans and they booed the Anthem of another country whil playing I sure as HELL!!!....Would Address it!!!!.....

I am all about good fun and a bit of teasing but that is blantant disrespect......

I also do not go with that Racial stuff either....

Same applies.....If I was next to someone and they started calling out Racial Slurs I would Address it....I don't care what Race or Nationality they are......

AS Wacko said there is no room for that in Boxing...ON this Form or anywhere else for that matter.....

And if there is any of it on this Form...Who Ever it is Will Be Banned from this Site ASAP

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Being at an international Wales rugby match in Cardiff when the anthem is being sung is one of the most electrifying spectator experiences in sport. Rugby crowds do not boo each others anthems as a sign of respect ........ please don't band all British people together into one nondifferentiated mass. That's the same as saying someone from Arkansas is the same as someone from New York.

There are idiots in all walks of life and Hatton's travelling fans appear to fall into that category unfortunately. They booed the anthem because they are idiots, not because they are British.

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Being at an international Wales rugby match in Cardiff when the anthem is being sung is one of the most electrifying spectator experiences in sport. Rugby crowds do not boo each others anthems as a sign of respect ........ please don't band all British people together into one nondifferentiated mass. That's the same as saying someone from Arkansas is the same as someone from New York.

There are idiots in all walks of life and Hatton's travelling fans appear to fall into that category unfortunately. They booed the anthem because they are idiots, not because they are British.

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CC 100% Agreed.......And Believe me we have some Americans who would do such a disrespctful thing as well....

But as you stated we can not catagorize everyone for it...

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Being at an international Wales rugby match in Cardiff when the anthem is being sung is one of the most electrifying spectator experiences in sport. Rugby crowds do not boo each others anthems as a sign of respect ........ please don't band all British people together into one nondifferentiated mass. That's the same as saying someone from Arkansas is the same as someone from New York.

There are idiots in all walks of life and Hatton's travelling fans appear to fall into that category unfortunately. They booed the anthem because they are idiots, not because they are British.

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CC 100% Agreed.......And Believe me we have some Americans who would do such a disrespctful thing as well....

But as you stated we can not catagorize everyone for it...

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Anyone who comes to the UK to fight one of ours is gonna get hammered during the ringwalk and the national anthem regardless of where they are from.
Football mentality probably but people just do it without thinking and it will always go on.
It's all done jokingly anyway and is impossible to stamp out.
I can promise all of you that it's not at all intended with any malice ;)

I apologize if anyone has mentioned this (i didn't have the will to look through 5 pages of posts), but during the Manfredo/Calzaghe bout the brits booed the US anthem.. i was amazed at the poor showing of class! I can understand being a fan of your fighter, but god damn, boo when the oppositions name is called.. not when the anthem of his country is being recited. complete disrespect.

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I apologize if anyone has mentioned this (i didn't have the will to look through 5 pages of posts), but during the Manfredo/Calzaghe bout the brits booed the US anthem.. i was amazed at the poor showing of class! I can understand being a fan of your fighter, but god damn, boo when the oppositions name is called.. not when the anthem of his country is being recited. complete disrespect.

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Yep..I especially didnt like that particular event too..

Manfredo was man enough to fight the undefeated champ on his very own home turf with a solid packed out arena full of calzaghe fans and they didnt even grant him an undistrurbed respectful national anthem
Ridiculous really

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Originally Posted by Nium

Who says Hatton's fans have class? His fans are working class 'soccer hooligans' :P ;)

And I'd boo the American national anthem, too. I can't stand those Yanks.

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I would be to if my whole country's army got there ass kicked by a colonial militia too.But I'm on the other side of the world. You Brits are classless Eur garbage. Just look at the Calzaghe Manfredo fight. Wales is close enough.

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Originally Posted by Missy

chanting 'mexico' 'usa' same flipside of the coin as the 'boo'. Panto season.
I don't stand for anyones national anthem not yours, not ours, what's the point of it?
I always walk out or sit down and I don't care what people think. At least I am thinking and not being a mindless sheep or just doing it in case I get picked on for not doing it.

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i don't stand up to my national anthem and the national anthems of other countries cause i'm a mindless sheep, i stand up to my national anthem because i have pride of my country and i show respect to others and that have the same pride for their respective countries, but well maybe you don't think about that

When i was at the Calzaghe/Lacey fight there was some idiots a couple of rows up booing and saying some racial stuff from the min lacey appeared. As a Brit and a boxing fan i was really offended and deeply dishearten at there dishonourable behaviour. I had come to support Joe as much as the next supporter, but i was also looking forward to getting to see Lacey in action. For a minute there i thought i had walked in to a BNP rally.
I am up for a bit of friendly banter an Jibes as the next person but there are lines you dont cross out of respect for a human being never mind which sport its in.

I dont pay much attention to my own national anthem but i dont disrespected those that do. I wish i could feel that patriotic but they would only tax me on that too. ;D Each to there own as some one once said. ;)

Then I'm guessing Mayweather is going to come out in sparking USA colors for his fight with Hatton...

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Who says Hatton's fans have class? His fans are working class 'soccer hooligans' :P ;)

And I'd boo the American national anthem, too. I can't stand those Yanks.

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I would be to if my whole country's army got there a** kicked by a colonial militia too.But I'm on the other side of the world. You Brits are classless Eur garbage. Just look at the Calzaghe Manfredo fight. Wales is close enough.

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Both of these posts show so much ignorance. Speaking as a Brit squaddie who has served in Iraq with many Yanks I was certainly glad we were on the same side this time not like when we faced the militia ::**. Maybe people could learn from our mistakes as we have made so many.

Back on topic, as has been mentioned before it is disrespectful to boo a national athem but there are many who do not understand its significance and so you cannot lump everyone in the same bracket.

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Originally Posted by southakron314

I would be to if my whole country's army got there a** kicked by a colonial militia too.But I'm on the other side of the world. You Brits are classless Eur garbage.

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Who is this idiot? ....... clearly the shallow end of the gene pool?

Not only a vague appreciation of history, but poor geography and poorly articulated generalisations as well.

southakron314, if you are going to try and insult people, as least do it wittily and in a way that really does insult them .... rather than simply reflecting the glaring emptiness at the back of your peanut-like brain. You must try to understand that some posts only make the poster appear to be six-toed banjo-playing inbred simpleton.

So, I would only give to a 2 out of 10 for your weak effort there. 'Must try harder next time'.


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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

Then I'm guessing Mayweather is going to come out in sparking USA colors for his fight with Hatton...

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....like red, white, and blue aren't in the Union Jack.....I'd figure Mayweather to be the kind of guy to come to the ring dressed as a member of Def Leppard just to piss all yall off

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Then I'm guessing Mayweather is going to come out in sparking USA colors for his fight with Hatton...

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....like red, white, and blue aren't in the Union Jack.....I'd figure Mayweather to be the kind of guy to come to the ring dressed as a member of Def Leppard just to piss all yall off

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Nah he'd go apollo creed and come out dressed as george washington.