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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
Bra,heres a wee bit of hint
We have some fighters,trainers,and managers on here
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Well if not 15 rounds for heavyweights then maybe for lighter weights and no i dont feel that way about the fighters dont get so mad it was just a idea nothing more not like i still dont like boxing i just liked it when it went 15 rounds whats wrong with that my god. Then people are saying i dont know what it takes to get in the ring and what does that have to do with any thing i mean unless the person saying that boxed at some point he doesn't know either and not like i want people to die. All i said was i wish it was 15 rounds again and not to have it stopped prematurely which seems to happen more now then back then that is i was saying nothing more nothing less.
I don't think that u meant anything bad by ur post. But alot of people on this forum has different levels of boxing experience. From people that train only, had their first day of sparring, trainers, managers, active amateurs, & pro experience. Most of these people IMO disagree with the insinuation of ur lack of personal boxing experience has nothing to do with anything. If u were to spar 2,3,4,5 x 3 minute rounds, u may change ur opinion.
Thing have evolved & changed for reasons. Not just because somebody just woke up one day & said "let's make championship fights 12 instead of 15 rounds." But hey, ur entitled to ur own opinion. Just have ur ducks in a row on this forum because some people will test ur theory by stating not only opinions but facts. They will ask the tough questions.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by silent assassin
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
see that one reason that a 15 rounder would be a good thing for close fights good point miles
Yeah more Jerry Quarry's would be a great thing
Nothing better then watching your hero's years later shaking like a leaf
Try having a conversation with Joe Frazier,or Ali
:goodpost: Monkey. 36 minutes/12 rounds of fighting is enough time to do what u have to do. Boxing, like anything that stay arond for an extended period will/has evolved. I wouldn't like to see the x-tra punishment.
Someone posted that they want to see guys not being able to stand after fights. 12 rounds is a long time & a guy that wants to leave it all in the ring after goin 12 can do so. If u want to burn urself out running 2 miles balls out, u can do that. If u want to jog 4 miles at a slow pace, u may not even be tired.
Hey guys, maybe fighters should wear 6 oz. gloves & dip them into glue & glass before matches. :Sarcasm:
Whoever beleives that 12 rounds makes boxing "soft" is off IMO. I would venture to say that they have never swapped shots for many if any rounds with another.
The severity/accelerated rate of Ali's parkinson's has been linked to his days of boxing on more than one occasion that I can remember.
I swear to god,I can allways tell if a manager or a promoter Im talking to boxed in that era when we get calls
If I have to say "Excuse me" 3 times or more in a 5 minute conversation,they allmost allways did.
I dont even think theyre letting Joe awnser the phone anymore at Fraziers,you almost allways get Marvis,even when Jo IS in town
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OK well thank you for that silent and i guess all i have to say is all the things i heard have mostly been fighters in heavyweight division and maybe 15 isn't the way to go i Will give you that but from bantam weight to about Middle weight maybe just for championship fights 15 rounds wouldn't be to bad now is that unthinkable i dont think so and i wait to see what you think.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
Boxing is getting soft?
Tell that to Victor Burgos or Czar Amonsot.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
cc daxx
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
Twelve three minute rounds, all on ur own except for a trained athlete with the intention of hitting u as many times as he can in the head, or perhaps in the body to put u through sufficient pain to make u quit, or failing that til u fall down....hmmm....and then if u get up....he's gonna do it again n again n again.....Fancy it?
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
cc daxx
CC#204 I mean don't get me wrong we all love to see KO's happen....It makes for an exciting night.....I on the other hand am not saying that I am for snoozers or hug feast via Ruiz ect but if the KO doesn't happen and a great display of boxing occurs I appricate it as much if not more...Then again that is just me :-\
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
cc daxx
CC#204 I mean don't get me wrong we all love to see KO's happen....It makes for an exciting night.....I on the other hand am not saying that I am for snoozers or hug feast via Ruiz ect but if the KO doesn't happen and a great display of boxing occurs I appricate it as much if not more...Then again that is just me :-\
Thats how I and most other boxing fans view a fight as well. Anyone who says "I'm a fan of boxing, but come on there needed to atleast be a knockdown in the pbf-odlh fight" isn't a fan for the right reason.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
true I'm not a true die hard fan of boxing, i'm not a die hard fan of anything. ANY DIE HARD FAN OF ANYTHING NEEDS A LIFE.
BOXING DON'T NEED DIE HARD FANS, IT NEEDS THE COMMON FAN. THAT IS WHY BOXING IS DIEING BECAUSE THESE FEW PROUD FOR NOTHING DIE HARD FANS WILL HOLD ON NO MATTER WHAT, THATS WHY THESE CORRUPTED SPORTS CONTINUE TO GET PAY WHILE EVEN YOU DIE HARD FANS AREN'T SATISFIED. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING THE BEST FIGHTS INSTEAD THEY HANDPICK TO SET UP A MONEY MAKING FIGHT. TOTALL BULLSHIET. its like getting played, you'll never get what you really want to see. you'll just get enough for a while but never fullfilled. So many divisions but no true champ. pathetic!
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Well you are right boxing does need someone to attract the not die hard fans like mike Tyson did
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Well you are right boxing does need someone to attract the not die hard fans like mike Tyson did
Not really
The last 10 years have been a great era of boxing
Mayweather,Roy Jones,B-hob,Lewis,Holyfield,Barrera,Winky,hell even womens boxing went from a sideshow to the real deal with Ali,Wolfe,Mahfood,Ward,etc,etc
Its more about the PPV's
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
SC. People can like who they want to like. I like Ivan Calderon, Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters, but if you don't like guys that fight like that, it doesn't mean you're not a true boxing fan.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
SC. People can like who they want to like. I like Ivan Calderon, Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters, but if you don't like guys that fight like that, it doesn't mean you're not a true boxing fan.
Sad Click back to you because anyone who thinks boxing is all about Knockouts is just an idiot and if anyone thinks a fight sucks because there is not a knockout then they know nothing about boxing and need to go watch toughman...........
Boxing is about the skill of two men in the ring...the point is to hit and not be hit. If it was about just knocking people out then we would not have judges now would we......
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
true I'm not a true die hard fan of boxing, i'm not a die hard fan of anything. ANY DIE HARD FAN OF ANYTHING NEEDS A LIFE.
BOXING DON'T NEED DIE HARD FANS, IT NEEDS THE COMMON FAN. THAT IS WHY BOXING IS DIEING BECAUSE THESE FEW PROUD FOR NOTHING DIE HARD FANS WILL HOLD ON NO MATTER WHAT, THATS WHY THESE CORRUPTED SPORTS CONTINUE TO GET PAY WHILE EVEN YOU DIE HARD FANS AREN'T SATISFIED. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING THE BEST FIGHTS INSTEAD THEY HANDPICK TO SET UP A MONEY MAKING FIGHT. TOTALL BULLSHIET. its like getting played, you'll never get what you really want to see. you'll just get enough for a while but never fullfilled. So many divisions but no true champ. pathetic!
As usual you make no valid points except the fact there are too many divisions...And by the way putting your caps on does not actually mean you are yelling......The only thing pathetic around here is every post you have made since #1
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
Considering the punches hes taken
Says it all really
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
Last time I saw Chuvalo he was on ESPN Classic ringside and he sounded just fine to me....
Funny how some guys can take sooo much abuse over the years and be OK and others end up with the slur and studder....
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
SC. People can like who they want to like. I like Ivan Calderon, Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters, but if you don't like guys that fight like that, it doesn't mean you're not a true boxing fan.
Sad Click back to you because anyone who thinks boxing is all about Knockouts is just an idiot and if anyone thinks a fight sucks because there is not a knockout then they know nothing about boxing and need to go watch toughman...........
I never said that I think boxing is all about knockouts or that a fight sucks. That's ridiculous. In fact, most of my favorite fighters don't even punch that hard.
Some people like guys who come out looking for the knockout, is that bad? I think why some people don't like Malignaggi is that there's no suspense, every round looks the same. I don't agree with those people, I don't think Winky is boring but I'm not going to stand up and tell people that do that they're stupid and they're not "true boxing fans", whatever the F*** that even means.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
Last time I saw Chuvalo he was on ESPN Classic ringside and he sounded just fine to me....
Funny how some guys can take sooo much abuse over the years and be OK and others end up with the slur and studder....
Yeah those moments in interviews Ive seen where he forgets the question and his left hand quivers like a belly dancer is all Okey Dokey
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
Toney's already sounding like shit.
I won't say that's odd, he's had a lot of fights and apparently a lot of sparring but he is a great defensive fighter.
Hopkins sounds perfectly fine to me. I guess I'd have to hear what he sounded like 15 years ago.
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I wish they would change boxing back to the days when it was 15 rounds and boxers were so tired they could barley move and would need the will to win it and show how good they really were and go back to the days when they didn't stop fights so fast and see if the other guy could make it back instead of stopping it to soon I think boxing is to soft now compared to the old days.
Katsidis last two fights poo poo that ;)
It's only 3 less rounds and with todays better diets,training and gym equipment fighters are fitter and stronger imo.
2 fighters on last weekends Golden Boy card can no longer fight again as a result of their brutal fights ;)
Think about it :)...Lyle v Foreman is the type of fight your on about and they were in that wobbly state after only a few rounds ;)
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No way they are 'too soft' either imo!!
Re watch the Warren and Oscar card's from last week....80% hard,hard fights.
Katsidis looked like he'd been in a head on car crash with no seatbelt ;D
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
Last time I saw Chuvalo he was on ESPN Classic ringside and he sounded just fine to me....
Funny how some guys can take sooo much abuse over the years and be OK and others end up with the slur and studder....
Yeah those moments in interviews Ive seen where he forgets the question and his left hand quivers like a belly dancer is all Okey Dokey
He is also 70 years old and that can be from anything....Hell I hope at 70 I am as strong and in shape as he is....
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The one thing I totally disagree with is that fights are stopped too soon.
There are not many fights I've seen that were stopped too soon. Calzaghe-Manfredo ok, and there are others but in general fights are not stopped too soon. Look at Pernell Whitaker-Hurtado, should that have gone on longer.
As far as 15 round fights, I don't know. Most serious boxing injuries don't come from one punch early, there from long sustained beatings. Look at Leavander Johnson, its not like Jesus Chavez is a huge puncher. It was the punches being constantly landed over the course of a fight that hurt a fighter. Leavander probably shouldn't have even been allowed to fight anyway.
Is there anyway to tell if there have been less injuries, deaths, since they went to 12 round fights? I mean you would assume there would be less but is there actual evidence.
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He's been that way since the late 70's
If you really are a fan of a fighter,why would you want to risk him ending up that way anyway?
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
Boxing getting soft? :-\
2007 has been a vintage year. The sport is global people!
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
boxing is boxing..
You still get wars..
Take it or leave it..
I wouldnt leave it for the world.. I still love watching the malignaggis.. Fwock kos when your good then your good..No matter how you do your busness
the k.o's are keeping your beloved sport barely breathing nowadays buddy
and the malignaggis of the sport are the cancer to it. boxing needs excitement and k.o's are what fulfill fans desire.
its like choosing which you want to see strenght or drawing
its like a chessmaster or warrior who would you want to watch? certainly not the chessmaster or the artist?
Those who can't appreciate the Malinaggi's of the sport are not true die hard fans of boxing.....
The sport is boxing not KO........
The Pernell Whitikers,, The Winky Wrights who don't have the KO ratio's but put on masterful performances are what makes boxing great.....
true I'm not a true die hard fan of boxing, i'm not a die hard fan of anything. ANY DIE HARD FAN OF ANYTHING NEEDS A LIFE.
BOXING DON'T NEED DIE HARD FANS, IT NEEDS THE COMMON FAN. THAT IS WHY BOXING IS DIEING BECAUSE THESE FEW PROUD FOR NOTHING DIE HARD FANS WILL HOLD ON NO MATTER WHAT, THATS WHY THESE CORRUPTED SPORTS CONTINUE TO GET PAY WHILE EVEN YOU DIE HARD FANS AREN'T SATISFIED. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING THE BEST FIGHTS INSTEAD THEY HANDPICK TO SET UP A MONEY MAKING FIGHT. TOTALL BULLSHIET. its like getting played, you'll never get what you really want to see. you'll just get enough for a while but never fullfilled. So many divisions but no true champ. pathetic!
As usual you make no valid points except the fact there are too many divisions...And by the way putting your caps on does not actually mean you are yelling......The only thing pathetic around here is every post you have made since #1
:gay-as-steelie: talk about soft, someones feelings got hurt :P
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Re: Boxing is getting to soft
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by Mr140
As far as Ali goes he got Parkinson's disease and that could of happend weather he boxed or not
Name a fighter from the 15 round era(not Foreman his fights almost never went that long) that speaks clearly
They all could back then
Norton was so well spoken he had a minor acting career,now he sounds like he's got marbles in his mouth
Holmes
Frazier
Norton
Quarry
Ali
Chuvallo
They all sound like hell
These are people,not simian cockfighters for your amusement
I thought I heard that Chuvalo sounded just fine. Which is bizarre considering all the punches he's taken.
Last time I saw Chuvalo he was on ESPN Classic ringside and he sounded just fine to me....
Funny how some guys can take sooo much abuse over the years and be OK and others end up with the slur and studder....
He's the human shock absorber. Doesn't surprise me at all.
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One could argue that todays young boxers on the way up are less gritty than their historical counterparts, but perhaps possesssing more polished skills.
However, on the other hand there are a number of prospects making their names on grit alone:
John Duddy: Never fantastic boxer, even as an amateur but chin, grit and aggression are making him a name.
Enzo Macc: His early Career saw him not only battle on after a loss, but also battle on in some very tough fights with Hobson Dominguez etc.
Jamie Moore:After the Macklin fight you can't question his will to fight or endure punishment in order to win!!!
Rey Bautista: His last couple of fights have pretty much seemed to suggest he's not all he was hyped up to be, but IMO they also showed he's in the business not only to dish it out but take it all for a win.
Gotta go boss comin!!!!!
