Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by MTL_box
Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by MTL_box
Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
A record is one thing, but he hasn't fought the top echelon of fighters yet.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by MTL_box
Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
A record is one thing, but he hasn't fought the top echelon of fighters yet.
Kessler has beat The ring`s ratings number 2,5 and 6,so you can`t say he`s not has beat any top fighters
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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if you dont acknowledge that than u let your bias blind you severely that you make yourself look like a f#cking fool ;)
Let's just abandon the forum and turn Saddo's into Fire's blog. His opinion is the only one that counts, anyway, and that way he won't have to put up with all the absurdities of folks who don't agree with him.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
I am too tired to think right this second but I bet I can name at least 5 other guys more over rated then those 3 since 2000
I'll start though with at least one name.
Anyone remember a heavyweight named Michael Grant?
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Punching Princess
I am too tired to think right this second but I bet I can name at least 5 other guys more over rated then those 3 since 2000
I'll start though with at least one name.
Anyone remember a heavyweight named Michael Grant?
He's on the comeback trail yet again
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
It's a really tuff call to say that any of the three are overratted.
If I had to pick...I'd pick Miranda based on the fact that he is the least accomplished of the three fighters & has looked REALLY bad against some mediocre fighters.
Lacy's a hell of a fighter...but he stepped up against Joe Calzaghe, the best 168lb fighter of the last 5 or 6 years, to get the beating of a lifetime. I'm not so sure that he can come back from something like that. Totally destroys one's confidence I would imagine.
No way is Kessler overratted. He dispatches his foes so easily & so devastatingly. I'm really impressed with Kess & win, lose, or draw against Joe...he deserves much respect.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
At least kessler and miranda fight good fighters Lacy has fought 1 in calzaghe and then fades away , hes a limited bum !!!!!!!!!!
He tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of a 10 round fight against Tyspko, Jackass!!!! Thats like a Marathon runner tearing his hamstring in the 1st few miles of a race and still finishing it and winning ::**
Yes but i didnt hear him saying REMATCH AS I WAS INJURED !!!!!!!!!!!!
THE GUYS A BUM
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
At least kessler and miranda fight good fighters Lacy has fought 1 in calzaghe and then fades away , hes a limited bum !!!!!!!!!!
He tore his rotator cuff in the 2nd round of a 10 round fight against Tyspko, Jackass!!!! Thats like a Marathon runner tearing his hamstring in the 1st few miles of a race and still finishing it and winning ::**
Yes but i didnt hear him saying REMATCH AS I WAS INJURED !!!!!!!!!!!!
THE GUYS A BUM
what is your basis for that??? Rematch?? Yea, HEY VITALI!!!!! I know I just tore my cuff and its painful along with possibly career threatining and we just went 10 rounds and all.... But my 1st prority while were standing here is to make sure when I come back next year that we have a rematch ::**
I mean come on all I'm sure you can do better than that
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Punching Princess
I am too tired to think right this second but I bet I can name at least 5 other guys more over rated then those 3 since 2000
I'll start though with at least one name.
Anyone remember a heavyweight named Michael Grant?
He's on the comeback trail yet again
Yeah so is Tommy Morrison ::**
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by MTL_box
Its easy answer in Lacy. Great natural strong physical guy but thats why he got hyped so much cause of his pure power. His boxing abilities when comparing especially to Kesler are very limited.
Miranda i think for being a puncher type may be bit overrated in that aspect but at least he can bring more elements by being a pressure fighter in your face.
Kesler is still underrated i think in USA as i he has huge punching ability but people seem to forget about him having one of the best jabs.
yes and no... right now i think kessler is close to the p4p top 10... but as of yet is still unproven...
Unproven????,39 fight 29 KO 0 lost and only lost 4-5 round in his career,unproven,i don`t get it???
A record is one thing, but he hasn't fought the top echelon of fighters yet.
Kessler has beat The ring`s ratings number 2,5 and 6,so you can`t say he`s not has beat any top fighters
top fighters will avoid Kesler because of the lack of purse they can get with him and the huge potential to lose. He's huge draw with the Danes but yet to translate to U.S. market so why would top fighters fight a high percentage to lose fight without the huge purse when their are still names around.
Re: Most Overrated fighter of 2Ko? Lacy, Kessler or Miranda?
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Kessler, Miranda or Lacy?
Miranda & Lacy
