Good move Ricky, let him come to you instead of you going to him, I do wish Ricky best luck but Mayweather has to decide if he's gonna defend his WBC Welter against Shane ( who else?!) or go after the money and back to 140 pounds, very good move!!!
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Good move Ricky, let him come to you instead of you going to him, I do wish Ricky best luck but Mayweather has to decide if he's gonna defend his WBC Welter against Shane ( who else?!) or go after the money and back to 140 pounds, very good move!!!
not really..because floyd will just stay retired and ricky will be viewed as ducking floyd...also it proves that he didn't have an "off night" against collazo and he just was getting beat up and knows that if collazo did that to him at 147 floyd will kill him....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorfmeister
You know I am a fan of Hatton but this makes me look at him a little different.....
This is a fight he called out...He stated he wanted Floyd...He said "You just seen more action here then in all of Floyd Mayweathers fights put together" or something to that effect after the Castillo fight
Ricky wanted it soooo bad and now it is at his door he does not want to open it.....
Not good in my eyes...Hatton just lost a lot of crdibility with me.....
You don't tell everyone you want to fight the school bully then get a ride home from Mom at 3:00
I see where urcomingfrom, but i never pay much attention to shit like this.. IF this fight fell through because hatton wudntgo up.. then fair enough he wud be looked as a shit out..Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
but this is more of a "lets see if he will come down" still early days...
that fight was never gonna happen anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
arent talks underway with the Magninelli camp anyhow?
I think some people are flying off the handle a little prematurely. Daxx Im shocked you put so much stock in what is in all likelyhood a throwaway comment.
Not wanting to single you out mate but there are a few I would expect to treat this snippit as gospel, not you though ;)
I posted this on the Hatton forum to guage the difference in response. Its as expected to be honest. Its been treated as very little over there, whether thats genuine or the need to tow the line I dont know, probably a mixture of the two.
Its no surprise to see a few people steaming straight in over here though ;D
:coolclick: #958. You basically said what I was trying to say, only much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
C'mon guys, you don't seriously believe that with the money Hatton can make from this, he'd turn it down if it wasn't at 140lbs. For years, this is the fight Hatton has wanted. He'd take it at any weight, anywhere. No fight means more to his career than a fight with Mayweather. Plus, Ricky didn't say this, his dad did. Despite them being in the same camp, it's not gospel and shouldn't be taken as such.
Have one back mate ;)
I think people are jumping the gun a little we do not actually know if Ray said this personally i don´t tend to believe what is reported in papers etc... Rick has said he wants the fight and if it can be made it will be, if its not don´t automatically blame Hatton, I would rahter play a waiting game and hear the facts from those who really know. :)
I'm stunned by level of venom being spat towards Ricky over this.
Actually I'm not...
You haters like to think of yourselves as objective but the bile comes through in your posts loud and clear.
You'll spin it into what you want. One persons 'fury' igniting anothers...without any real regard for what's being said ::**
The weight won't be an issue. It's only a minor incovenience for Floyd. It's not like he packs on the pounds or is afraid of a bit of road work is it?
Even if Floyd vetos 140lbs, the fight could still realistically happen at 147. Ricky weighs more on fight night than Floyd does (even at light middle). Both guys would still retain thier biggest physical weapons at 140 or 147.
Not 100% sure what Rays motivation is for saying this but I suspect it's to do with the fact that Ricky Hatton is still the draw here...people forget that. Why shouldn't Team Hatton dictate the terms?
I guess Hatton is hoping that PBF will pull off a Roy Jones and come into a 140lb fight sluggish from trimming off the lean muscle.
Still though this is pretty shitty for Ricky to do. ALl he did was talk shit about how Floyd was ducking him, and now he refuses to fight at 147 to make this mega fight happen? Common Ricky
I don't see a problem with Hatton trying to get the fight at 140. He seems more settled at that weight, and Floyd could make 140 with little difficulty. What's the big deal?
Can anyone link me to these articles where Ricky talks shit and he says Floyds ducking him..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I heard him on the radio the other day, he didn't say that. He said something like - if the Floyd fight was made at Welter Ricky would still train to his 140 weight and the two of them would enter the ring around the same weight on the night anyway...then went on a three day waffle about how they made a mistake with Rickys weight in the Collazo fight and it would never be repeated thats why he would train to his 140 weight
Hope this helps.
It probably wont ;D
Let the truth get in the way of bashing someone? never.
;D
A couple of weeks ago Hatton calls Floyd out live on TV after demolishing Castillo but now from a couple of lines in a newspaper that don't contain any quotaion marks it's obvious Hatton don't want the fight and is a bottler.
memphis, this response would be the same on this board if it was ANY fighter,
I flipped out when Taylor talked about going up to 168 for the Pavlik fight.
I guess subconsiously I hope me post del outrage will be heard by the fighter
in question and change their mind.
I'll wait for a little while but if Hatton books against Malignaggi, when he had the
opportunity for a second time to fight floyd, what can conclusion can be made?
Other than he doesn't want to fight Floyd (you can debate the reason, but the result
is the same regardless)
It would have something to do with the TV date and the time needed to properly promote the PPV.
Think of the build up involved in PBF v Oscar. Everyone involved would happily pass this up this year for the sake of being able to really get behind it early 2008.
If the Malinaggi fight does happen it's primarily for that reason...that and one of Rickys personal ambitions is to top the bill at MSG and Malinaggi simply represents the best option for that at 140.
yes really, Floyd has to defend the WBC 147 pound title until December and if Ricky decides it to be 140, it's not gonna be for the WBC welter W, then if Floyd stays retired, he loses the WBC title, we get rid of Floyd and the welterweight series continues... Good move Ricky, I wouldn't be surprised if Hatton, Barrera, Oscar and Shane planned it this way but Floyd is still waiting to make money after the May 5th ( Oscar made money then and didn't give Floyd the rematch where he would get the biggest part of the purse)Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
As Sweet Pea wrote earlier, the best weapon against Floyd is a strong jab by a fighter with some length. Oscar, when he used it, was peppering Floyd with his jab, but then for some unknown reason gave up on using it. Hatton doesn't have the build nor the skill to give Floyd problems....ESPECIALLY at 147. This fight is never going to happen at 147 and unless Hatton goads Floyd to fighting at 140....this fight wont happen PERIOD. Hatton would get badly beaten at 147 and i really cannot see Floyd wanting to fight on Hatton's terms by going down to 140.
I say this not being a fan of Floyd's at all....but outside of England Ricky is not a draw. Whether one agree or likes it...Floyd is currently regarded as the pound 4 pound champ. He just fought the biggest star in the sport in Oscar. Not to mention he has a tremendous ego. So with all due respect...Hatton and his team will not be dictating squat. Also, Hatton has shown that his conditioning has been an issue, especially at 147. He doesn't have the size or stamina to be effective at that weight....especially against one of the best conditioned and highly skilled fighters in Floyd. Sure, a pressure fighter could potentially give Floyd problems. But it has to be a strong fighter who has great enough stamina to maintain that power and pressure for a FULL 12 rounds. There is just no way Ricky could do that at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steelie
I knew Hatton was a little bitch. He has no balls. Mayweather went up and fought ODLH at 154 and Mayweather IS A NATURAL 135 pounder. This amazes me, Hatton puts Floyd's name in his mouth on HBO but behind the scenes when the world isn't listening, he's behaving little a scared boy. The thing that's funny to me is that Hatton wants Floyd to come down to 140 but if he tries to fight ODLH will he make ODLH come down to 140? Hell no. Floyd should be calling all the shots and if that dwarf Hatton doesn't wanna come up to welter or meet at a catch weight to truly test himself and make a boatload of money then he should go make his 4 or 5 million fighting fighters like Paulie or Ndou because he's not talking about being great.
When Hatton fights often he has got stamina its only when he has a long layoff out of the ring he piles on the weight and then he strugles with his stamina.Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin
first i would like to say i was right about hatton after all, he is ducking floyd so fuck u all that gave me crap for it, and this reminds me 2 much of jones ruiz leading into jones tarver, delahoya being ruiz, hatton being tarver, floyd better not fall for the bait cuz its not like he has fat to lose hes all muscle,and bone lol,
but i wonder wat would hatton say if floyd agreed to move down, iam guessin he would say sumtin liek this "floyd is boring, maligiani is a much better fighter and a way biger chalange for me mate" and then he licks his hand and straitens the reporters hair, and then calls out jones and mike tyson, and sais they must fight at 140 if they want the fight
ODLH is not going to fight Hatton, that was just to destroy PBF's chances of fighting the brit and make him fight Shane. Since ODLH is not giving Floyd's his rematch, how is Floyd Mayweather gonna make money? I mean, Hatton will make just 4 or 5 million fighting Paulie or Ndou, where is the boatload of money for Floyd Mayweather, raping with 50cent or start acting for real ( to the movies)?Quote:
Originally Posted by albsur2006
If this is true, Hatton just gave Mayweather the mental edge, this just shows hes not that confident in himself at welterweight. Mayweather isnt gonna kill himself to fight Ricky Hatton, I wouldnt be surprised if this fight doesnt happen. Im thinking Hatton will fight Malignaggi next.
Guys for fuck sake did you not read what Fenster posted?
Unbelievable.
You know damn well ain't nobody pay attention to what Fenster writes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I suggest you do in the comp. Save your ass from finishing in the bottom half this time ;)
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CC that one cracked me up
Don't worry about me. As long as Boxing Gorilla is running it legit, the rest will take care of it self.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
hah.. i hope #1, that Mayweathers response to this goes real public to show how much of a coward Hatton is.. How do you call someone out (who is not in your weight class) and disrespect them, and then ask that they have to come down in weightclass to fight you.
and #2 that Mayweather drops the weight and kicks his ass anyway.. now THAT would be something remembered!
Dude, you're a fucking idiot. I don't think I need to justify saying that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by albsur2006
I agree. Hatton is a disgrace. Talked all that sh!t because he basically thought Mayweather had no interest in fighting him, and when Floyd jumps at the chance, little Ricky sh!ts himself. What a joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Why is everybody acting all surprise? Hatton is the same guy who promised Luis Collazo a rematch. And than backed out. He has a history of cowardly acts.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Fuck you. I had an opinion about Hatton. If you can't deal with people's opinion's then get the fuck off of the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Extremely disappointed that Hatton's unrealistic old man would say that, surely for a fight like this to happen there has to be a compromise made and I don't think Maywather should have to make to many!
Mayweather is the Number One guy in the sport at the moment and Hatton will have to move up to 147 to fight him, I'm sure the Fatboy himself knows that and might just tell dad to shut the F...k up!
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Five guys right there that feel so obligated to shit on a fighter they simply dont like that they are prepared to turn a blind eye to the facts.
Those facts are that after the Castillo fight Hatton said on camera that Floyd is the fight he wants. He has repeated it today on film.
End of story.
If there is something I am missing please enlighten me.
Come ring time their both basically the same weight. So Floyd say Yes and get it on.
This crap is the same as last HBO saying "We need another fight Ricky to build it"
Ain't America ready for there boy to get beat.
This is gonna be like Lloyd beating the fuck into P4P Donald Curry and Floyd ain't no Curry even his dreams.
Couldn't said it better than myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth