Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i don't think Gomez is that bad a fighter. i don't think he beats hatton but he would put up a good fight. i think gomez needs more fights. gomez is one of those guys that starts his career of slow but will eventully make it to that elite level. gomez is basicly a prospect IMO.
I agree with u. He's a sound, hard nosed fighter. I have always liked how he portrays himself & the fact that he comes to fight.
It was GREAT for his career to get a name like "Gatti" on his resume at this point of his career. But IMO it would be a BAD move to put him in over his head at this point. I would go so far as to call it an injustice to him right now to put him with the elite guys.
He's a tough guy that would take alot of unnecesary punishment if he were to be in too deep. IAnything can happen but it's tough to picture him goin down & out with one shot. If he was mismatched into a stoppage it would probably be from a beating. He deserves a fighting chance. Hopefully his people will keep matching him right. Let him gain some experience. Then when the time comes if everything keeps rolling along, maybe he gets his big shot & has a chance. Just my opinion
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by mikey100
Agreed Gatti was shot, but I can separate that, and give Gomez merit. He came in much more fit than before, threw good body shots, good combos, was very accurate, and has always been able to take a shot. Far from elite, but still, major improvements to his game were evident. He still has slow hands and poor footwork.
if he's far from elite he probably should wait until he's a little closer to it to get in the ring with Ricky Hatton.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by mikey100
Agreed Gatti was shot, but I can separate that, and give Gomez merit. He came in much more fit than before, threw good body shots, good combos, was very accurate, and has always been able to take a shot. Far from elite, but still, major improvements to his game were evident. He still has slow hands and poor footwork.
if he's far from elite he probably should wait until he's a little closer to it to get in the ring with Ricky Hatton.
I think that is the overall conclusion that most people have drawn from this thread.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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I happen to be one that thought that while Manfredo would have ended up losing, that fight was stopped ENTIRELY prematurely. Gomez is a tougher nut than Manrefo anyway.
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't tar everyone with the same reality-tv brush, but I still reckon Gomez needs a few more profile wins before he even gets on to Hatton's radar. The British public will hardly accept a fight against Gomez after all the recent talk about Mayweather.
I feel the same about a Malignaggi fight to be honest. He's hardly big league is he?
Malignaggi's only loss came from a pound for pound champion who is perhaps the most feared puncher under 160..
And he handled himself quite well against a stronger more experienced guy....
Paul is right where he belongs....Many laugh at me but in a few years Malinaggi will be a top name in this division...
I also believe they will work on his power as time goes on
He's not ready for Hatton though. I don't see that as a world class fight at all. He's only just won a world title against a guy who is nowhere near world class in N'Dou. His only big fight was against Cotto, and he took a beating. Hatton is a two weight world champion, and has won numerous titles at lighty-welter as well as ending Tszyu and Castillo. Are you honestly telling me that he's worthy of a shot at Hatton? He hasn't even defended his frigging belt yet, and has done nothing to prove world class status. Don't get me wrong, he's a decent fighter, but he's not ready yet.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by mikey100
Putting this out there. I know I'm going to have people calling me insane, but I think this is a match up that could get made. HBO seems to go for the Contender fighters, and the last version of it paid off. Gomez looks like a guy who made big improvements. He can take a shot, and he's a smaller WW who has genreally moved up to fight competition. Hatton, while obviously at an elite PFP level, did have a hard time when he moved up to fight Collazo. So, in the minds of HBO and Hatton, the fight's a no-brianer that can make big $$. And for Gomez, a shot at a nice pay-day and possibly he's the Mexican version of Rocky Balboa if he wins.
You should be a promoter, matchmaker,.... or an idea guy, heh.
A very winnable fight for The Hitman and plenty more attention too.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
I wouldn't be so sure. Gomez is much bigger than both Castillo and Hatton. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and Gomez is bigger than him. I don't know if you caught the Gatti fight but Gatti looked tiny compared to Gomez.
He's 5 ft 9 and has fought as high as 160 lbs.
Hatton ain't blowing him over no way.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
Gomez is a pretty big guy for 147 (he is more or less a 154lbr) and can take a decent punch Ricky is no 1 punch KO artist and Gomez is game....Not saying Gomez would beat him just tougher then you would think....
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What a joke ha ;D
Did you make a bad joke and laugh at it yourself ???
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
This would be a total mismatch. Gomez is not anywhere near the Hatton level yet.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Hughesd
This would be a total mismatch. Gomez is not anywhere near the Hatton level yet.
He doesn't need to be. Gomez is just so much bigger. If they fought it would have to be at 147 lb and Hatton just doesn't have the strength at that weight. Gomez has been in with full blooded middleweights like Manfredo, Brinkley and Kuddour so I don't see him wilting from the first shots that Hatton throws.
It would be a tough fight for Hatton whose style relies on bullying his opponents. Hatton doesn't have the style to be able to beat up stronger bigger stronger guys.
This would be a close fight imo.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
I wouldn't be so sure. Gomez is much bigger than both Castillo and Hatton. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and Gomez is bigger than him. I don't know if you caught the Gatti fight but Gatti looked tiny compared to Gomez.
He's 5 ft 9 and has fought as high as 160 lbs.
Hatton ain't blowing him over no way.
What are Hatton's options?
Everybody says that Cotto, Margarito, Mosley are too big for him. Now Gomez.
I'm sorry, but it seems Hatton has lost a lot of respect in terms of his performance against any bigger opponent.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
I wouldn't be so sure. Gomez is much bigger than both Castillo and Hatton. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and Gomez is bigger than him. I don't know if you caught the Gatti fight but Gatti looked tiny compared to Gomez.
He's 5 ft 9 and has fought as high as 160 lbs.
Hatton ain't blowing him over no way.
What are Hatton's options?
Everybody says that Cotto, Margarito, Mosley are too big for him. Now Gomez.
I'm sorry, but it seems Hatton has lost a lot of respect in terms of his performance against any bigger opponent.
I'm not saying he can't beat Gomez but the idea he could just walk through him is completely absurd. Gomez has never looked anything if not durable and he's actually a pretty solid fighter to boot.
Some people like to make statments of fact that any top level fighters will just blow away guys from the Contender but it's not true, Gomez will give pretty much anybody at 147 lb a decent fight for a few rounds at a least.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by southakron314
If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
I think calling Gomez a world class super middle weight is a bit much to be honest with you, he might be a decent middleweight at most, but one thing Gomez is not is a world class super middle weight. As far as I am concerned, Gomez looked quite fleshy coming in against Gatti at 147, so I'm sure he could stick there, or even drop a weight if he really wants a title fight. Heck, I'm sure Paulie Malignaggi would welcome such a bout with open arms, but Hatton is hunting larger prey.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
;D come one you know gomez couldnt live with hatton.......in fact wouldmany?
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
World Class Super Middle??? Who are we speaking of again?
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8) I think it would make for a good fight but think Hatton will beat Gomez. 8)
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
World Class Super Middle??? Who are we speaking of again?
I assume he's talkin about Manfredo.
Gomez vs Manfredo has as much to do with if Gomez is ready for someone like Hatton as much as Gomez vs Gatti............. Nothing at all IMO.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
World Class Super Middle??? Who are we speaking of again?
I assume he's talkin about Manfredo.
Gomez vs Manfredo has as much to do with if Gomez is ready for someone like Hatton as much as Gomez vs Gatti............. Nothing at all IMO.
Looking back, I may not have got my head around that one, but I blame the fact that I can't even consider Manfredo Jr anywhere near world class....
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Yeh Gomez does not deserve to share the ring with Hatton. If hatton beat castillo in 4 it will be gomez in 1 !!
I wouldn't be so sure. Gomez is much bigger than both Castillo and Hatton. Hatton had trouble with Collazo and Gomez is bigger than him. I don't know if you caught the Gatti fight but Gatti looked tiny compared to Gomez.
He's 5 ft 9 and has fought as high as 160 lbs.
Hatton ain't blowing him over no way.
What are Hatton's options?
Everybody says that Cotto, Margarito, Mosley are too big for him. Now Gomez.
I'm sorry, but it seems Hatton has lost a lot of respect in terms of his performance against any bigger opponent.
I'm not saying he can't beat Gomez but the idea he could just walk through him is completely absurd. Gomez has never looked anything if not durable and he's actually a pretty solid fighter to boot.
Some people like to make statments of fact that any top level fighters will just blow away guys from the Contender but it's not true, Gomez will give pretty much anybody at 147 lb a decent fight for a few rounds at a least.
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Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by southakron314
If Im not mistaked we are talking about a welter weight that beat a world class super middle weight. I think he would really give Hatton alot of problems.
I think calling Gomez a world class super middle weight is a bit much to be honest with you, he might be a decent middleweight at most, but one thing Gomez is not is a world class super middle weight. As far as I am concerned, Gomez looked quite fleshy coming in against Gatti at 147, so I'm sure he could stick there, or even drop a weight if he really wants a title fight. Heck, I'm sure Paulie Malignaggi would welcome such a bout with open arms, but Hatton is hunting larger prey.
No.... Peter Manfredo Jr is a big middle weight and Gomez picked him apart in thier first contest. I think Hatton wont be able to hit and hold and hit and hold and hit and hold and hit and hold and hit and hold on Gomez.
Re: Alfonso Gomez vs. Ricky Hatton
You know Gomez able to drop to 147 and Manfredo gowing to 168.