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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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i got an idea, somewhre outside the us and somewhere outside of europe, that means both are unhappy, which is called a good deal :lickish:
Hell yeah Argentina has stadiums all over and it's nice there this time of year.......
there u go, now all we have to do is get in touch with them, hope u got someway of doin that cuz i sure dont
I would be the best promoter ever if I just had money, connections and an entourage of MBA's and Lawyers
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by the phenom
i got an idea, somewhre outside the us and somewhere outside of europe, that means both are unhappy, which is called a good deal :lickish:
Hell yeah Argentina has stadiums all over and it's nice there this time of year.......
there u go, now all we have to do is get in touch with them, hope u got someway of doin that cuz i sure dont
I would be the best promoter ever if I just had money, connections and an entourage of MBA's and Lawyers
i think i would eb a good promoter to if i had all that, but the problem is ..... we dont :(
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
IN AN OLD FOLKS HOME IF wARREN GETS HIS WAY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
It would be good for Joe to fight in the States (would shut some h8ters up) but at the same time Joe is expected to fill the Millenium with 60 thousnad plus to fight mikkel....thats a world record since ali - leon spinks 2.....so it makes great sense to fight there....and i guarente you more poeple will show
up for Joe + Bernard than Joe and kess.....Plus America gets the ppv no matter were it is...and watching the fight on tv with a 60 plus thousand crowd will be better than 9000+ that you get in america (matter of opinion but im sure most would agree)
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by Tins06
It would be good for Joe to fight in the States (would shut some h8ters up) but at the same time Joe is expected to fill the Millenium with 60 thousnad plus to fight mikkel....thats a world record since ali - leon spinks 2.....so it makes great sense to fight there....and i guarente you more poeple will show
up for Joe + Bernard than Joe and kess.....Plus America gets the ppv no matter were it is...and watching the fight on tv with a 60 plus thousand crowd will be better than 9000+ that you get in america (matter of opinion but im sure most would agree)
And if the PPV numbers suck
And because of the time,they will
PPV makes more money then gate by far
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
We have to be realistic heere folks,this fight will either be in stateside or not take place at all.Ideally it would take place in Britain:bigger venues,bigger crowds etc but we know it won't.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
If it happens which i doubt it Hopkins is well passed it and would've been knocked out in his prime by Calzaghe if he'd have taken the fight a few years ago. Anyway if it did happen it would be in America as when did a yank last come over here to fight?
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by Fire
Yankee stadium is probably where the fight will be held..
I think it should be held there.. Joe needs to fight out of england..
and it would announce to the world that boxing is back, having a mega-fight at Yankee stadium..
But lets not overlook kessler to much
How many people do you think will go to this fight??
Calzaghe is basically unknown in the States if this fight is made, it will be in the uk, i cant see this making any money what so ever in the States.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
Depends on who's belt is up for grabs, actually Calzaghe is a household name overseas and BHop automatically becomes the bad guy in this venue. I think it might stand to make more money across the water.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by kevinhobson2000
If it happens which i doubt it Hopkins is well passed it and would've been knocked out in his prime by Calzaghe if he'd have taken the fight a few years ago. Anyway if it did happen it would be in America as when did a yank last come over here to fight?
UHHHH ,Lacy , and that contender kid I cant remember his name right now. Has Joe ever been in the U.S. ?????
Joe would have KOed B-hop in his prime .You must be kidding. :pointsnew:
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by JohnBlaze
Depends on who's belt is up for grabs, actually Calzaghe is a household name overseas and BHop automatically becomes the bad guy in this venue. I think it might stand to make more money across the water.
Household name are you taking piss?? We had a documentry on Joe about 2 months ago here in the Uk, and the presetner was goign round asking your average American do you know who Joe Calzaghe is and one person new who he was?? Household name, very far from it, put it this way Hopkins and Winky sold 9 thousand tickets in Wales they will sell 70 thousand.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by JohnBlaze
Depends on who's belt is up for grabs, actually Calzaghe is a household name overseas and BHop automatically becomes the bad guy in this venue. I think it might stand to make more money across the water.
Household name are you taking piss?? We had a documentry on Joe about 2 months ago here in the Uk, and the presetner was goign round asking your average American do you know who Joe Calzaghe is and one person new who he was?? Household name, very far from it, put it this way Hopkins and Winky sold 9 thousand tickets in Wales they will sell 70 thousand.
i think he was saying that calzaghe is a household name over seas............. as in europe, not the us
i may be wrong though
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by JohnBlaze
Depends on who's belt is up for grabs, actually Calzaghe is a household name overseas and BHop automatically becomes the bad guy in this venue. I think it might stand to make more money across the water.
Household name are you taking piss?? We had a documentry on Joe about 2 months ago here in the Uk, and the presetner was goign round asking your average American do you know who Joe Calzaghe is and one person new who he was?? Household name, very far from it, put it this way Hopkins and Winky sold 9 thousand tickets in Wales they will sell 70 thousand.
i think he was saying that calzaghe is a household name over seas............. as in europe, not the us
i may be wrong though
Well the argument is where the fight should be held, it wont be anywhere in europe, other than the Uk, so he might of meant that, if Hopkins only got $3 million against Winky in the States i cant see a Calzaghe fight being any more maybe less, id actully prefer Calzaghe to go the States i think it does mroe for his legacy, but there both coming to the end of the road, so i think there not going have the fight where your getting paid millions less, thats why i cant see this fight happening because Hopkins wont travel even thouh he probably makes double in the uk. I see Taylor being the next fight.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
I don't see this fight happening. First of Joe has a pretty damn tough fight to get through. And if Joe wins and Taylor moving up after the Pavlik fight, win or lose that's the fight I think. But for the hell of it, if it did happen, would have to be in Europe. Hopkins hardly drew in Vegas, and if they fought at Yankee stadium like Hopkins suggested after the fight, well that would look like an embarrassment of a crowd. For the money I could see Hopkins going over to Europe.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the wiz
I don't see this fight happening. First of Joe has a pretty damn tough fight to get through. And if Joe wins and Taylor moving up after the Pavlik fight, win or lose that's the fight I think. But for the hell of it, if it did happen, would have to be in Europe. Hopkins hardly drew in Vegas, and if they fought at Yankee stadium like Hopkins suggested after the fight, well that would look like an embarrassment of a crowd. For the money I could see Hopkins going over to Europe.
Do you think, i dont, he tunred down nearly six million $$ four years ago, why would he travel now? I knoe Calzaghe will travel if he is paid the amount he can be paid in the Uk, but he wont, shame really people will slag Cazlaghe saying he should travel etc etc, but put yourself in his shoes 35 years old end of the road is coming you want to make as much money as possible, and i think it's Taylor in Cardiff.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by the wiz
I don't see this fight happening. First of Joe has a pretty damn tough fight to get through. And if Joe wins and Taylor moving up after the Pavlik fight, win or lose that's the fight I think. But for the hell of it, if it did happen, would have to be in Europe. Hopkins hardly drew in Vegas, and if they fought at Yankee stadium like Hopkins suggested after the fight, well that would look like an embarrassment of a crowd. For the money I could see Hopkins going over to Europe.
Do you think, i dont, he tunred down nearly six million $$ four years ago, why would he travel now? I knoe Calzaghe will travel if he is paid the amount he can be paid in the Uk, but he wont, shame really people will slag Cazlaghe saying he should travel etc etc, but put yourself in his shoes 35 years old end of the road is coming you want to make as much money as possible, and i think it's Taylor in Cardiff.
I think we're kinda on the same page. I think the biggest fight for Joe would definately be Taylor. I think Hopkins showed after last weekend that he's not drawing in his fights, and Joe isn't really a big name here. So if it did happen the money would be in Europe, I think at this point in his career Hopkins is looking for the $$$. But in reallity I don't think Hopkins-Calzaghe will happen.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
I think it has to be in the UK because Calzaghi is not very big in America and Hopkins isn't exactly going to draw the crowds in either due to his style. In England Calzaghi is loved and the put im on ITV all the time, the fight would sell out here o problem but in america i think its like flogging a dead horse (mainstream wise)
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
It will never happen. I have a strong feeling Calzaghe isnt gonna want to fight again after Kessler win or lose.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
Calzaghe recently said that he was unimpressed with Hopkins against Winky and that Hopkins would have to "get in line".
Financially the most money would be made in Wales due to the large crowd but I personally think Joe should fight Bhop in the US.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I am American and I vote that is in Cardiff on a time that is reasonable for Americans.
I think that is reasonable compromise.
Joe can fill the seats and Americans can order the PPV
What do you think?
As I stated earlier,I think it should be at Staples in LA
No home field advantage for anyone
i was think the same thang monkey
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
That is true, but if Taylor beats Pavlik, I think that would erase some of the doubts of Taylor. Plus, Taylor did beat Hopkins. I think Taylor would deserve a shot instead of Hopkins. Being a legend shouldn't be the determining factor here.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
Taylor is the guy who defeated the dirty holding "headbutter" Hopkins. Why has Hopkins never met a top EU guy instead of fighting small boys in the US or old wannabees as Tarver?
What would happen if Hopkins met a Calzaghe, Kessler or Zolt Erdie?
Most likely what happend to Austin, Brock, Lacy, Byrd and so on.
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
That is true, but if Taylor beats Pavlik, I think that would erase some of the doubts of Taylor. Plus, Taylor did beat Hopkins. I think Taylor would deserve a shot instead of Hopkins. Being a legend shouldn't be the determining factor here.
i think its the determining factor in calzaghe and hopkins legacies, taylor has time to build his up, jc and bhop are both gettin old adn i would rather see whose the beter of the to u no they both defende their titles alot of times, me personally find that the reason for hopkins to fight him and not taylor, taylor can still make alot of fights, hopkins time is limited
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
That is true, but if Taylor beats Pavlik, I think that would erase some of the doubts of Taylor. Plus, Taylor did beat Hopkins. I think Taylor would deserve a shot instead of Hopkins. Being a legend shouldn't be the determining factor here.
i think its the determining factor in calzaghe and hopkins legacies, taylor has time to build his up, jc and bhop are both gettin old adn i would rather see whose the beter of the to u no they both defende their titles alot of times, me personally find that the reason for hopkins to fight him and not taylor, taylor can still make alot of fights, hopkins time is limited
I agree with Wiz, A win over Taylor proves more than a win over old Bhop. Taylor beat Hopkins twice and that's who Joe wants.
As Joe recently said "Hopkins can get inline"
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by the phenom
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by Fire
This fight will happen!!! If Calzaghe beats Kessler
I think both of them really feel as though they can beat the other fighter.. and i think they both really feel the other fighter is a little overrated..
All big fights make good money in the US making money will be know problem...
I really feel both want the fight badly
If Joe beats Kessler and let's say Taylor beats Pavlik. Taylor would move up to 168, wouldn't the fight for Calzaghe be Taylor and not the guy Taylor beat twice?
u should really think bout wat u said, who is the legend , hopkins or taylor?
That is true, but if Taylor beats Pavlik, I think that would erase some of the doubts of Taylor. Plus, Taylor did beat Hopkins. I think Taylor would deserve a shot instead of Hopkins. Being a legend shouldn't be the determining factor here.
i think its the determining factor in calzaghe and hopkins legacies, taylor has time to build his up, jc and bhop are both gettin old adn i would rather see whose the beter of the to u no they both defende their titles alot of times, me personally find that the reason for hopkins to fight him and not taylor, taylor can still make alot of fights, hopkins time is limited
I agree with Wiz, A win over Taylor proves more than a win over old Bhop. Taylor beat Hopkins twice and that's who Joe wants.
As Joe recently said "Hopkins can get inline"
i guess u can say that, mayb taylor is the next king of 168
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Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins. Where should it be held?
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by JohnBlaze
Depends on who's belt is up for grabs, actually Calzaghe is a household name overseas and BHop automatically becomes the bad guy in this venue. I think it might stand to make more money across the water.
Household name are you taking piss?? We had a documentry on Joe about 2 months ago here in the Uk, and the presetner was goign round asking your average American do you know who Joe Calzaghe is and one person new who he was?? Household name, very far from it, put it this way Hopkins and Winky sold 9 thousand tickets in Wales they will sell 70 thousand.
i think he was saying that calzaghe is a household name over seas............. as in europe, not the us
i may be wrong though
NO you weren't wrong I did mean in europe. Calzaghe is not a household name in the US and I don't think that he could carry the fight in the US so it would stand to reason that it would make more money overseas where both fighters are known
