Hatton vs Floyd: Who Wins?

I know people will hate this but i don't see anything or anyone that hatton has been against that makes me say hhhmmm yea i think he's ready to jump right to the top.

they've already said that Hatton will train himself for 140lbs as mayweather will not enter the ring at more than 150lbs on the night anyhow. This is his best bet imo. Forget putting on fighting weight and concentrate on getting lean, building stamina and not much else. Hatton TKO imo, but mayweather ahead on points when it's stopped.

Floyd by TKO ;)

He is too fast and will be more than willing to engage Hatton, Ricky will try to wrestle and hit and hold, Floyd will spin him and counter and on the inside Ricky will eat a steady diet of uppercuts. Floyd will tear his face open like a paper bag, it will be a stoppage by the corner or doctor

Ricky has little defense and will be turned into the same Zombie that Floyd turns all his opponents into. Stalking and eating shots, then they get so gun shy about the counters coming back that they stop throwing and then after round 5 it will be Target practice for Floyd. Body shots 4-5 punch combos that will break Rickys will ;)

Agreed JT, i see a similar fight going down.
I just think it's the sheer hatred for Floyd coupled with the insanely patritioc fanbase that Hatton carries that have some people giving Hatton a chance.
If anyone can pick up Boxing Monthly this month it's an excellent read..I really appreciated the writers honesty. Refreshingly unpatriotic and just BOXING taken into account when analysing this fight!

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Agreed JT, i see a similar fight going down.
I just think it's the sheer hatred for Floyd coupled with the insanely patritioc fanbase that Hatton carries that have some people giving Hatton a chance.
If anyone can pick up Boxing Monthly this month it's an excellent read..I really appreciated the writers honesty. Refreshingly unpatriotic and just BOXING taken into account when analysing this fight!

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I like Ricky myself, but when you look at the logistics of the fight and style matchup, people drag fights out of the closet from 5 years ago(Castillo) and they fail to realize Floyd isint the same fighter than the style he has developed for himself in his prime. Castillo wasnt even 1/2 the fighter that Floyd fought. to me its not even a factor in the equation ;)

I dont see Ricky having advantages in the speed, power, boxing skill and defense department. he isint even in the same league. He fought once uncomfortably at 147 and was LUCKY to scrape a win. Floyd has moved up to a fit 152 and fought and didnt fade, didnt get buzzed or rocked.

Floyds meanstreak will come out and he will pummel Ricky, Floyd isint trying to add another belt or weight division to his resume...So this fight and azz whoopin will be all pleasure for Floyd not business

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

In a smaller ring Hatton would be too much for Mayweather. Hatton's mauiling style woould give Floyd fits. however in a big ring Floyd pot shots to a ud .

the Hatton people need to negotiate a small ring, 14 16 no bigger then 18 foot.. if that cant be arranged then ricky needs to find someone who wants to fight. Cotto would be an equal money maker and more pleasing fan friendly style IMO.

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How about they just tie the fighters left legs together ::** I can't understand for the life of me how someone who knows boxing and boxes themselves, as you obviously do, can be so naive when it comes to appreciating different styles or aspects of the sport. Mayweather is slick boxer who is going to use lots of movement to create space... Thus in your mind he doesn't want to fight, and should instead just stand right in front of Hatton and give him his only hope in hell?? That shows an incredible bias imo, and makes me think you must have a mauling, brawler style yourself, and have probably been outboxed yourself one too many times to be impartial about the matter.

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This is it put your money and your opinion here! Who do you think will win this fight?

My opinion:
I see the fight as being all Ricky's. Both are top fighters and I'm not a big fan of either.

Ricky has fought a certain way his whole career. Cut off the ring and get inside while there do as much damage as possible. Force his strength on the opponent and bully them. This will happen to Floyd.
Floyd could take the fight lightly by being to cocky and sure of himself which would make Hatton's job even easier.

Hatton is going to cut off the ring and Floyd hasn't the raw power to punch him away. Speed of punch yes but not enough speed. Floyd is great at not getting hit on the chin but his opponents give him the space or he makes the space- Hatton is not going to let up or get discouraged.

Hatton only loses if he tries to box which is highly unlikely.
I honestly only see one winner in this fight and that's Hatton.
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This fight will be a walk over. Mayweather will dominate Hatton. It will either be a shut out points win or a late round stoppage. I can't see Hatton succeeding where Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya failed

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This is it put your money and your opinion here! Who do you think will win this fight?

My opinion:
I see the fight as being all Ricky's. Both are top fighters and I'm not a big fan of either.

Ricky has fought a certain way his whole career. Cut off the ring and get inside while there do as much damage as possible. Force his strength on the opponent and bully them. This will happen to Floyd.
Floyd could take the fight lightly by being to cocky and sure of himself which would make Hatton's job even easier.

Hatton is going to cut off the ring and Floyd hasn't the raw power to punch him away. Speed of punch yes but not enough speed. Floyd is great at not getting hit on the chin but his opponents give him the space or he makes the space- Hatton is not going to let up or get discouraged.

Hatton only loses if he tries to box which is highly unlikely.
I honestly only see one winner in this fight and that's Hatton.
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This fight will be a walk over. Mayweather will dominate Hatton. It will either be a shut out points win or a late round stoppage. I can't see Hatton succeeding where Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya failed

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With your track record the more one-sided you claim it'll be the more chance there is of Hatton pulling off the upset.

For Floyds sake

I'd keep stumn if I was you ;)

Floyd definitely wins, probably by wide UD, but I think he might actually stop Hatton. Hatton has poor defense and comes forward all the time (when not hugging), which will leave him open for a lot of very clean counters.

I think this whole "PBF doesn't have KO power at 147" is a red herring too; this is really a fight at 140--these guys will come into the ring at about 147, which is less than most fighters fighting at Jr. Welter come in at. And no one claims that Ricky is a 147 fighter, so it just doesn't take the same amount of power to stop him as it would to stop, say, an iron-chinned 170-pound Carlos Baldomir. Floyd won 2 out of his 3 fights at Jr. Welter by TKO, and then TKO'd Mitchell at 147. It's not crazy to think he'll be able to put Hatton down--Collazo was within a thread of doing it and he didn't land half the clean punches Floyd will.

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

In a smaller ring Hatton would be too much for Mayweather. Hatton's mauiling style woould give Floyd fits. however in a big ring Floyd pot shots to a ud .

the Hatton people need to negotiate a small ring, 14 16 no bigger then 18 foot.. if that cant be arranged then ricky needs to find someone who wants to fight. Cotto would be an equal money maker and more pleasing fan friendly style IMO.

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How about they just tie the fighters left legs together ::** I can't understand for the life of me how someone who knows boxing and boxes themselves, as you obviously do, can be so naive when it comes to appreciating different styles or aspects of the sport. Mayweather is slick boxer who is going to use lots of movement to create space... Thus in your mind he doesn't want to fight, and should instead just stand right in front of Hatton and give him his only hope in hell?? That shows an incredible bias imo, and makes me think you must have a mauling, brawler style yourself, and have probably been outboxed yourself one too many times to be impartial about the matter.

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CC # 433 Fair play. just pointing out some things that Ricky's people might want to consider. Floyd usually benefits from the intangibles going in . ( Ring size) 27 footers.. a good solid boxer can box in an 18 footer no worries. , However it keeps the pure runners from doing nothing but. Floyd shouldnt have any worries then.

Floyd wins by wide UD IMO

mayweather will win this one. PBF will not want to go down in history as the one who lost it on his last fight.

This is going to be Carmen Basilio v Ray Robinson, and I think Basilio is going to steal this one with workrate, aggression, body work, and borderline illegal tactics. On 9 nights out of 10, Floyd will beat Ricky, but I believe Floyds arrogance will be his downfall in the one. He'll run too much, he'll throw too little, and Ricky will steal rounds on pure guts and aggression, like ODLH did. Ricky is a better body puncher than oscar and he has better footspeed.

PBF wins an easy rematch.

Fully see where ya coming from SeanE,

But I just can not see Mayweather being that un professional, he dissed Gatti pretty bad only to be very gracious about him post fight,

I think its part of his act, his psychology,almost as a motivational tool as much as it is an intimidation tool, because for Mayweather and the status he's earned when he gobbs off, he knows that when he has his quiet moments alone he thinks s**t Id better deliver lol and as said the dissing almost becomes a motivating tool for him,

And tho I do see where ya coming from, I just cant see it happening really, for me at least its Floyd by unanimous,(Dare I mention a possible late stoppage too, thought not lol :smilie_whisper:) but hey who knows bud... :beerchug:

FLOYD WINS BY TKO.... FLOYD IS GONNA START OFF USING PSYCHOLOGY BY TRASH TALKING WHILE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THERE FLAWS AND BEAT DOWNS RECIEVED(collazo) AND THAT WILL MAKE HATTON WANNA EVENTUALLY JUST KILL HIM WHEN HE GETS INTO THE RING. HATTON WONT BE ABLE TO APPLY PRESSURE HE SIMPLY CANT FIGHT SLICK FIGHTERS HE HAS NO DEFENSE. MAYWEATHER ALREADY HAS A BLUEPRINT OF HIS THANKS TO COLLAZO THIS IS GONNA BE A WALK IN THE PARK.... HATTON SHOULD OF FOUGHT COTTO IT WOULD HAVE PROVEN MY POINT.HE HAS HEART FOR STEPPING UP BUT NOT MUCH BRAIN HE'S IN THERE WITH A SLICK ELUSIVE GENIUS. LETS THINK ABOUT THIS LOGICALLY HOW MANY WEIGHT CLASSES CAN HATTON MOVE UP TO AND EVEN BE ABLE TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THAT HE'S THE MAN WITHOUT HAVING TO STRUGGLE? MAYWEATHER WINS EASY EITH SHUT OUT ON POINTS OR KNOCKOUT. ITS NO QUESTION

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Fully see where ya coming from SeanE,

But I just can not see Mayweather being that un professional, he dissed Gatti pretty bad only to be very gracious about him post fight,

I think its part of his act, his psychology,almost as a motivational tool as much as it is an intimidation tool, because for Mayweather and the status he's earned when he gobbs off, he knows that when he has his quiet moments alone he thinks s**t Id better deliver lol and as said the dissing almost becomes a motivating tool for him,

And tho I do see where ya coming from, I just cant see it happening really, for me at least its Floyd by unanimous,(Dare I mention a possible late stoppage too, thought not lol :smilie_whisper:) but hey who knows bud... :beerchug:

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I don't mean unprofessional that he won't train right or that he won't have a plan. Floyd will be prepared. His arrogance will be not throwing enough punches, not trying to finish Hatton, and leaving things in the hands of the judges.

I think there is a pretty good chance Mayweather will be the winner on MY card and lose a close SD.

If Hatton can match floyd's speed then hatton will probably give floyd a beat down. I watched castillo/mayweather 1 and castillo almost matched floyd speed for speed. He gave floyd all he could handle. If there is to much speed advantage for floyd then i think he'll easily beat Hatton. Floyd easily picks apart opponents with lesser speed.

I think this will be Floyd's toughest fight to date, his defensive skills are extraordinary and Hatton will find it very difficult and frustrating trying to hit him.
PBF must not underestimate Hatton at any time during the fight as he will be in his face for the whole 12 rounds, i just don't see Ricky Hatton landing enough punches cleanly to get a decision against Mayweather. PBF will work Hatton out by the 3rd or 4th round and it would not surprise if this ended in a DQ. I hope it doesn't but i see Hatton getting frustrated in this fight and doing something stupid that american referee's will not tolerate. Hatton must attack early and throw caution to the wind and prevent Mayweather dictating the fight. He has to land something heavy in the early rounds and get PBF to change his game plan. I see a Mayweather UD in what will hopefully be a great fight.

I see them bringing the best out of each other, if it don't get silly, Floyd will more than have his hands full, and tho not too sure about Hatton being able to knock Floyd out with head shots, it would only take one correctly placed or even luckily placed body shot to cause mayhem for Mayweather,

However, I cant see Hatton getting close enough to Mayweather for long enough to be able to do that, unless Floyd allows him to......like with Ndou, and tho he was no Hatton,he was still rough potential hard work for a while, And tho I may get my head kicked in verbally for this I really feel Floyd's strength is being underestimated, as well as the dark ability to drop the forearm and elbow very cutely on blind side and hidden as a quick hook or two...

So I go for Mayweather big on points, maybe late stoppage (9-12 round) but ya can bet Hatton will give everything he has to overcome this...will it be enough, not without a slice of luck or a complacent Mayweather.. :o

I can't wait until December, at least there are a few great fights in between.

is it at 140 or 147?

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This is it put your money and your opinion here! Who do you think will win this fight?

My opinion:
I see the fight as being all Ricky's. Both are top fighters and I'm not a big fan of either.

Ricky has fought a certain way his whole career. Cut off the ring and get inside while there do as much damage as possible. Force his strength on the opponent and bully them. This will happen to Floyd.
Floyd could take the fight lightly by being to cocky and sure of himself which would make Hatton's job even easier.

Hatton is going to cut off the ring and Floyd hasn't the raw power to punch him away. Speed of punch yes but not enough speed. Floyd is great at not getting hit on the chin but his opponents give him the space or he makes the space- Hatton is not going to let up or get discouraged.

Hatton only loses if he tries to box which is highly unlikely.
I honestly only see one winner in this fight and that's Hatton.
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This fight will be a walk over. Mayweather will dominate Hatton. It will either be a shut out points win or a late round stoppage. I can't see Hatton succeeding where Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez and Oscar De La Hoya failed

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With your track record the more one-sided you claim it'll be the more chance there is of Hatton pulling off the upset.

For Floyds sake

I'd keep stumn if I was you ;)

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Let's see some recent picks I made off the top of my head

Paul Williams over Antonio Margarito
Daisuke Naito over Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Vernon Forrest over Carlos Baldomir
Nonito Donaire over Vic Darchinyan
Steven Luevano over Nicky Cook
Wladimir Klitschko over Lamon Brewster
Florante Condes over Muhammad Rachman

I think my track record is good enough

Elusive as Floyd is Hatton will connect with a body shot and Floyd will struggle badly. I think Hatton will KHTFO!! :)

The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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i think oscar delahoya at jr. middleweight is a hell of a lot more dangerous than hatton. easiest way to look at it is...........

Oscar Delahoya at 154 vs. Ricky Hatton at 140 or 147


i like hatton, but delahoya knocks him out late

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Agreed JT, i see a similar fight going down.
I just think it's the sheer hatred for Floyd coupled with the insanely patritioc fanbase that Hatton carries that have some people giving Hatton a chance.
If anyone can pick up Boxing Monthly this month it's an excellent read..I really appreciated the writers honesty. Refreshingly unpatriotic and just BOXING taken into account when analysing this fight!

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I like Ricky myself, but when you look at the logistics of the fight and style matchup, people drag fights out of the closet from 5 years ago(Castillo) and they fail to realize Floyd isint the same fighter than the style he has developed for himself in his prime. Castillo wasnt even 1/2 the fighter that Floyd fought. to me its not even a factor in the equation ;)

I dont see Ricky having advantages in the speed, power, boxing skill and defense department. he isint even in the same league. He fought once uncomfortably at 147 and was LUCKY to scrape a win. Floyd has moved up to a fit 152 and fought and didnt fade, didnt get buzzed or rocked.

Floyds meanstreak will come out and he will pummel Ricky, Floyd isint trying to add another belt or weight division to his resume...So this fight and azz whoopin will be all pleasure for Floyd not business

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Now then JT 8)

A strong argument you've given for a Floyd victory and justifiably so.


But, and as ya may guess i somewhat disagree with the decision of the fight, especially the bit where ya say from round5 onwards it will be a walk in the park for Floyd :o ::**

Ricks last fight at 147 was poorly planned, and believe me that wont happen again considering he now has 4 months to prepare for it, this against the 4 weeks for Collazo. Ricky will train as if he's facing a LWW and will enter the ring around 149-152, not alot of difference as to what Floyd will enter the ring at. The difference between the two regards to natural size is negligible.

Billy Graham has been studying Floyds style for along time now, as far back as Ricky's fight against Kostya. I believe Billy Graham has the key that will unlock Floyd and hand him his first defeat in the pro ranks. The question remains, and will until the pair meet, can Hatton fulfill his mentors plans ???

If Rick can put on a performance and display like he did against KT then he can definitely win this fight. Ricky's mindset going into the KT fight was that he was prepared to lose the first 5-6 rds, and then to come on strong in the later rounds, which, he accomplished with great aplomb. I can forsee a similar thing happening in this fight. Ricky will apply plenty of pressure in the early rounds and look to sap energy from Floyd thus setting up the later rounds as his back yard. ;)

I appreciate what ya saying about the Castillo fight and for me it's also a poor yardstick. What i will add though is that Oscar gave Floyd fits for the first half of the fight and if he could have kept that up for longer then he would have certainly claimed a UD over Floyd ( i for one think Oscar won that fight by 1rd ). Hatton can and will show more intensity and drive than Oscar did that night and his accumulation of hard shots to both body and head on the inside will lead to Floyds demise on December 8th. 8)


PS Ya dont know the result of the Bojado fight last night do ya ???

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Agreed JT, i see a similar fight going down.
I just think it's the sheer hatred for Floyd coupled with the insanely patritioc fanbase that Hatton carries that have some people giving Hatton a chance.
If anyone can pick up Boxing Monthly this month it's an excellent read..I really appreciated the writers honesty. Refreshingly unpatriotic and just BOXING taken into account when analysing this fight!

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I like Ricky myself, but when you look at the logistics of the fight and style matchup, people drag fights out of the closet from 5 years ago(Castillo) and they fail to realize Floyd isint the same fighter than the style he has developed for himself in his prime. Castillo wasnt even 1/2 the fighter that Floyd fought. to me its not even a factor in the equation ;)

I dont see Ricky having advantages in the speed, power, boxing skill and defense department. he isint even in the same league. He fought once uncomfortably at 147 and was LUCKY to scrape a win. Floyd has moved up to a fit 152 and fought and didnt fade, didnt get buzzed or rocked.

Floyds meanstreak will come out and he will pummel Ricky, Floyd isint trying to add another belt or weight division to his resume...So this fight and azz whoopin will be all pleasure for Floyd not business

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Now then JT 8)

A strong argument you've given for a Floyd victory and justifiably so.


But, and as ya may guess i somewhat disagree with the decision of the fight, especially the bit where ya say from round5 onwards it will be a walk in the park for Floyd :o ::**

Ricks last fight at 147 was poorly planned, and believe me that wont happen again considering he now has 4 months to prepare for it, this against the 4 weeks for Collazo. Ricky will train as if he's facing a LWW and will enter the ring around 149-152, not alot of difference as to what Floyd will enter the ring at. The difference between the two regards to natural size is negligible.

Billy Graham has been studying Floyds style for along time now, as far back as Ricky's fight against Kostya. I believe Billy Graham has the key that will unlock Floyd and hand him his first defeat in the pro ranks. The question remains, and will until the pair meet, can Hatton fulfill his mentors plans ???

If Rick can put on a performance and display like he did against KT then he can definitely win this fight. Ricky's mindset going into the KT fight was that he was prepared to lose the first 5-6 rds, and then to come on strong in the later rounds, which, he accomplished with great aplomb. I can forsee a similar thing happening in this fight. Ricky will apply plenty of pressure in the early rounds and look to sap energy from Floyd thus setting up the later rounds as his back yard. ;)

I appreciate what ya saying about the Castillo fight and for me it's also a poor yardstick. What i will add though is that Oscar gave Floyd fits for the first half of the fight and if he could have kept that up for longer then he would have certainly claimed a UD over Floyd ( i for one think Oscar won that fight by 1rd ). Hatton can and will show more intensity and drive than Oscar did that night and his accumulation of hard shots to both body and head on the inside will lead to Floyds demise on December 8th. 8)


PS Ya dont know the result of the Bojado fight last night do ya ???

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Hahaha!!! were you been hiding these days, havent seen you around at all? Good to see ya mate.

Well you have to be concerned with Ricky fading down the stretch he did against Colazzo and Urango then TKO Castillo and 4 so Hatton is yet to prove if he reversed the stamina course, I will agree he has a reputation for fighting like a wildman for 3mins around for 12, but that hasnt been the case in a while. Floyd NEVER fades or even seemingly looks labored in a fight.

Ricky is tough and can close the distance, but he wont walk thru Floyds shots all night, Floyd is not a concussive puncher he dishes out an accumulative amount of Punishment.. Unfortunatley I see it ending similarly as Gatti were Graham is hugging Ricky on his stool and taking out his mouthpiece while waving off the fight by round 9. Ricky is one hell of a warrior gentleman champion, but that wont be enough to get him past Mayweather... Ricky will walk into shots and leave himself open for counters and like I stated earlier will become gunshy and just absorb an inordinate amount of punishment past the 5th.

People say Floyd cant punch for shiit... Ask Oscar how hard Floyd digs to the body and the head.. Sure has hell rocked that steardy bastarrd 3x at least.

Hey Bro its the fight we been wishing for along time... In a few months our opinions will be for not and there will be a 1 on a fighters record... May the best man win ;)

:coolclick: and welcome back

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Agreed JT, i see a similar fight going down.
I just think it's the sheer hatred for Floyd coupled with the insanely patritioc fanbase that Hatton carries that have some people giving Hatton a chance.
If anyone can pick up Boxing Monthly this month it's an excellent read..I really appreciated the writers honesty. Refreshingly unpatriotic and just BOXING taken into account when analysing this fight!

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I like Ricky myself, but when you look at the logistics of the fight and style matchup, people drag fights out of the closet from 5 years ago(Castillo) and they fail to realize Floyd isint the same fighter than the style he has developed for himself in his prime. Castillo wasnt even 1/2 the fighter that Floyd fought. to me its not even a factor in the equation ;)

I dont see Ricky having advantages in the speed, power, boxing skill and defense department. he isint even in the same league. He fought once uncomfortably at 147 and was LUCKY to scrape a win. Floyd has moved up to a fit 152 and fought and didnt fade, didnt get buzzed or rocked.

Floyds meanstreak will come out and he will pummel Ricky, Floyd isint trying to add another belt or weight division to his resume...So this fight and azz whoopin will be all pleasure for Floyd not business

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Now then JT 8)

A strong argument you've given for a Floyd victory and justifiably so.


But, and as ya may guess i somewhat disagree with the decision of the fight, especially the bit where ya say from round5 onwards it will be a walk in the park for Floyd :o ::**

Ricks last fight at 147 was poorly planned, and believe me that wont happen again considering he now has 4 months to prepare for it, this against the 4 weeks for Collazo. Ricky will train as if he's facing a LWW and will enter the ring around 149-152, not alot of difference as to what Floyd will enter the ring at. The difference between the two regards to natural size is negligible.

Billy Graham has been studying Floyds style for along time now, as far back as Ricky's fight against Kostya. I believe Billy Graham has the key that will unlock Floyd and hand him his first defeat in the pro ranks. The question remains, and will until the pair meet, can Hatton fulfill his mentors plans ???

If Rick can put on a performance and display like he did against KT then he can definitely win this fight. Ricky's mindset going into the KT fight was that he was prepared to lose the first 5-6 rds, and then to come on strong in the later rounds, which, he accomplished with great aplomb. I can forsee a similar thing happening in this fight. Ricky will apply plenty of pressure in the early rounds and look to sap energy from Floyd thus setting up the later rounds as his back yard. ;)

I appreciate what ya saying about the Castillo fight and for me it's also a poor yardstick. What i will add though is that Oscar gave Floyd fits for the first half of the fight and if he could have kept that up for longer then he would have certainly claimed a UD over Floyd ( i for one think Oscar won that fight by 1rd ). Hatton can and will show more intensity and drive than Oscar did that night and his accumulation of hard shots to both body and head on the inside will lead to Floyds demise on December 8th. 8)


PS Ya dont know the result of the Bojado fight last night do ya ???

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Hahaha!!! were you been hiding these days, havent seen you around at all? Good to see ya mate.

Well you have to be concerned with Ricky fading down the stretch he did against Colazzo and Urango then TKO Castillo and 4 so Hatton is yet to prove if he reversed the stamina course, I will agree he has a reputation for fighting like a wildman for 3mins around for 12, but that hasnt been the case in a while. Floyd NEVER fades or even seemingly looks labored in a fight.

Ricky is tough and can close the distance, but he wont walk thru Floyds shots all night, Floyd is not a concussive puncher he dishes out an accumulative amount of Punishment.. Unfortunatley I see it ending similarly as Gatti were Graham is hugging Ricky on his stool and taking out his mouthpiece while waving off the fight by round 9. Ricky is one hell of a warrior gentleman champion, but that wont be enough to get him past Mayweather... Ricky will walk into shots and leave himself open for counters and like I stated earlier will become gunshy and just absorb an inordinate amount of punishment past the 5th.

People say Floyd cant punch for shiit... Ask Oscar how hard Floyd digs to the body and the head.. Sure has hell rocked that steardy bastarrd 3x at least.

Hey Bro its the fight we been wishing for along time... In a few months our opinions will be for not and there will be a 1 on a fighters record... May the best man win ;)

:coolclick: and welcome back

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LOL, well mate i've been somewhat occupied with a change of jobs and a house move, so not been posting, although always reading :)

Ok, regards the stamina thing, against Collazo it was a move up in weight too early in his preperation, if Juan Lazcano had not injured his hand then the fight would not have happened at all. Against Urango, he had the flu a week before the fight which lasted up to the day before the fight ( the air con in those Vegas hotels is bad, i can vouch for that personally ). I have a recording on dvd of Rick in a build up show before the fight, a kind of fly on the wall documentary, that showed him in his room doing an interview all bunged up with flu. As for the Castillo fight, well he had learnt his lesson and went out to Vegas earlier and rented a private villa instead of staying in the Hotels on the strip for his build up. Thus resulting in a devastating KO of a boxer that had NEVER tasted the mat in his entire pro career, his only stoppage coming against Corrales, of which he wa still on his feet. :)


I agree that Ricky will walk onto alot of shot's from Floyd, but as he's only been down once in his career, ( flash knockdown against MaGee ), i feel he has the chin to withstand Floyds arsenal, and as you rightly say, he doesnt posses the most powerfull punch. So for me this is a mute point.

It will be interesting to see how Floyd deals with Hattons constant onslaught which will dog him till the last bell. I for one will be in the arena to watch the action unfold and cannot wait for it.

Dont get me wrong, Floyd is THE most gifted boxer of this generation, but as the old adage goes, 'the is always someone out there tougher than you' and for Floyd that is Ricky Hatton ;D



Will you be going to it bud ?

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The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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i think oscar delahoya at jr. middleweight is a hell of a lot more dangerous than hatton. easiest way to look at it is...........

Oscar Delahoya at 154 vs. Ricky Hatton at 140 or 147


i like hatton, but delahoya knocks him out late

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De la Hoya at his best would trouble mayweather at 154, but he is well past it. Hatton at 140 or even 147 is a better fighter than Oscar. Oscar may beat him if they fought, but that fight would only be at 154. Hatton vs Mayweather is basically a 140lb fight as mayweather will not be near 150 on the night, Hatton will come in the ring at around 147.

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The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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i think oscar delahoya at jr. middleweight is a hell of a lot more dangerous than hatton. easiest way to look at it is...........

Oscar Delahoya at 154 vs. Ricky Hatton at 140 or 147


i like hatton, but delahoya knocks him out late

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De la Hoya at his best would trouble mayweather at 154, but he is well past it. Hatton at 140 or even 147 is a better fighter than Oscar. Oscar may beat him if they fought, but that fight would only be at 154. Hatton vs Mayweather is basically a 140lb fight as mayweather will not be near 150 on the night, Hatton will come in the ring at around 147.

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Oscar has recently said hes moving back down to welter. In case you forgot, there was a couple weeks where it looked like Oscar was gonna be fighting Hatton.

As for Mayweather not being near 150 for the night of the fight..................


It just so happens that's how much he weighed in his last fight ;)

Delahoya beats Hatton if they fought at 147 (like they were talking about a couple weeks ago ;)) because Delahoya is a better fighter than Hatton.

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The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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i think oscar delahoya at jr. middleweight is a hell of a lot more dangerous than hatton. easiest way to look at it is...........

Oscar Delahoya at 154 vs. Ricky Hatton at 140 or 147


i like hatton, but delahoya knocks him out late

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De la Hoya at his best would trouble mayweather at 154, but he is well past it. Hatton at 140 or even 147 is a better fighter than Oscar. Oscar may beat him if they fought, but that fight would only be at 154. Hatton vs Mayweather is basically a 140lb fight as mayweather will not be near 150 on the night, Hatton will come in the ring at around 147.

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Oscar has recently said hes moving back down to welter. In case you forgot, there was a couple weeks where it looked like Oscar was gonna be fighting Hatton.

As for Mayweather not being near 150 for the night of the fight..................


It just so happens that's how much he weighed in his last fight ;)

Delahoya beats Hatton if they fought at 147 (like they were talking about a couple weeks ago ;)) because Delahoya is a better fighter than Hatton.

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Can we agree to disagree then :D

LOL, ;) Hope ya don't mind me taking sides with frozensolid on this one , sorry bud just my opinion for what it's worth but yeah for me its ODLH at 147 all day long :beerchug:

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Originally Posted by hackey100

The fact remains, although this fight will in all likelyhood be won by Mayweather, it will be closer than many people are making out. Hatton is the best fighter that Mayweather has been matched with in his career.

Mayweather is correct when he says that Hatton has never been in the ring with anybody as good as him, but in all honesty, Mayweather has never been in the ring with somebody as good as Hatton.

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i think oscar delahoya at jr. middleweight is a hell of a lot more dangerous than hatton. easiest way to look at it is...........

Oscar Delahoya at 154 vs. Ricky Hatton at 140 or 147


i like hatton, but delahoya knocks him out late

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De la Hoya at his best would trouble mayweather at 154, but he is well past it. Hatton at 140 or even 147 is a better fighter than Oscar. Oscar may beat him if they fought, but that fight would only be at 154. Hatton vs Mayweather is basically a 140lb fight as mayweather will not be near 150 on the night, Hatton will come in the ring at around 147.

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Oscar has recently said hes moving back down to welter. In case you forgot, there was a couple weeks where it looked like Oscar was gonna be fighting Hatton.

As for Mayweather not being near 150 for the night of the fight..................


It just so happens that's how much he weighed in his last fight ;)

Delahoya beats Hatton if they fought at 147 (like they were talking about a couple weeks ago ;)) because Delahoya is a better fighter than Hatton.

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Can we agree to disagree then :D

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fair enough

De la hoya owns Hatton at 147 no doubt about it. Oscar may have lost a little bit of his skill but he is still way better that Collazo and we know what happened to Hatton then. De la Hoya would be a big welterweight and Hatton doesn't have good defense. If Oscar landed that left hook it would be good night Vienna.

I say the fans win. This is great for boxing hats off the Mayweather for taking it. He really wants to etch a legacy for himself so he can be mentioned with the Ray Robinson or Harry Greb. Thats if he wins. But back then guys would fight 200 to 300 fights in a career. I think Greb fought 294 time and 44 times in one year. Thats every 8 days!!!

I am a huge Hatton fan but I think Mayweather took this fight to avoid the criticism that is going to accompany ducking Miguel Cotto that will come very soon.