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correction
this guy may allow steroid to be legal
Am just kidding
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well we kinda got off topic didn't we now but o well insteresting stuff about governator so thats fine
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
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Originally Posted by Mr140
man louis you are some elese are you smoking crack or somthing my god
Arnold schwarzenegger once said that the best thing after a hard training session is to smoke a spliff, it otally relaxes the person
However arnold play many mind games as Ali did in boxing
so therefore i don't buy the story
...get Pumping Iron....he tokes a big one after winning the Mr. Universe for the 7th time in a row and he admits to it
I've got all his video I just hope he doesn't say that to the whole american publc after becoming the president.
This guy may allow steroid to be illegal
You right lyle am a total loser, deluded, wasted my life and all the other thing
does that make you happy?
I didn't direct that quote at you it was to "ThegreatJoeLouis"
Arnold can't be the President....not until laws are changed....I like the guy he's been a decent Governor
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well we kinda got off topic didn't we now but o well insteresting stuff about governator so thats fine
This guy is grasping at stuff now....He has lost all his valid points....he has contradicted himself on two threads....So lets change the topic to Arnold and his polotics.........
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Yea but governtor and boxing is kinda noticable don't you think dark but thats just me
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Originally Posted by Mr140
Yea but governtor and boxing is kinda noticable don't you think dark but thats just me
Why Do You Insist on calling me Dark???
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o my bad i must be tired i thought it was dark i now see it is daxx i didnt see it right my bad
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Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourse Wladimir is more highly educaed, much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
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wtf are you talking about this about boxers in the 90s not about the governator
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Originally Posted by Mr140
o my bad i must be tired i thought it was dark i now see it is daxx i didnt see it right my bad
LOL no worries.....
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourse Wladimir is more highly educaed, much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
You have to be a natrual born citizen of the USA...born in America...
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The 90's was definately stronger than today's current crop. Alot more strength in depth.
The 90's for Heavyweights was probably the 2nd or 3rd strongest era in Heavyweight history.
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well what would be above the 90's besides the 70's well larry holmes era wasn't to bad
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Mr140
o my bad i must be tired i thought it was dark i now see it is daxx i didnt see it right my bad
LOL no worries.....
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourse Wladimir is more highly educaed, much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
You have to be a natrual born citizen of the USA...born in America...
No offence you don't know anything
Go research
this law was pass just few years ago that anyone who has live in america for over 20 years automatically become a citizen of america
Just research and you will find out
Don't be suprise when law changes because at the end of day these law are made by people themselves
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well this topic deserves a sad click and there you go.
If the division is so piss poor how about you go and be champ since the fighters are so bad and the division is so poor.
If you give me a time machine that would reverse me to the 90's then I would beat up all those bum back in the 90's
Obviously today devision is soo much stronger and I wouldn't make it anywhere not even in the gym around the corner from my house
I knew you was a moron this comment has just proved it.
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourseis more highly edu Wladimir caed much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
Where have i seen this before i wonder ??
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourseis more highly edu Wladimir caed much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
Where have i seen this before i wonder ??
It just the way everyone say Ali the greatest of all time
would you still say i've heard that before
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
Actually lyle am one of the people that beleieve the 90's division was the poorest
so I guess in to you am a loser.
By the way the law has been change, anyone who has been a citizen in america for more than 20 years get a certificate as a citizen of america, arnold got his certificate couple of years ago and anyone with that certificate is allow to become president of american.
Arnold and Wladimir both are educated sportman, but ofcourseis more highly edu Wladimir caed much better looking, taller.
Arnold has a great bodybuilder physique but it too much for most women, where as wladimir has got that perfect physique.
Has anyone seen today top bodybuilder
The physique are incredibly disguisting, there no fame, no money in the sport, hair fall out, kidney failure, testicle shrink, personality also changes, more aggression, lack of patient.
I actually was a bodyuilder myself at 16-17years old but lost interest after one of my mates die because of steroid, I actually started to pay interest in other sport after tha day and one of them is boxing.
Boxing aint eiher the nicest sport to be in but atleast it universally recognised
Where have i seen this before i wonder ??
It just the way everyone say Ali the greatest of all time
would you still say i've heard that before
And i would have to agree in Heavyweight division with the opposition he beat he was the greatest in hw division but imo greatest of all time is Sugar Ray Robinson.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
cc
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
No offence you don't know anything
Go research
this law was pass just few years ago that anyone who has live in america for over 20 years automatically become a citizen of america
Just research and you will find out
Don't be suprise when law changes because at the end of day these law are made by people themselves
That "law" you refer to was a bill proposed by Senator Orrin Hatch
And judging by your use of the English language perhaps you should watch this educational video before you make such crazy statements about American laws.
[youtube=425,350]mEJL2Uuv-oQ[/youtube]
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
No offence you don't know anything
Go research
this law was pass just few years ago that anyone who has live in america for over 20 years automatically become a citizen of america
Just research and you will find out
Don't be suprise when law changes because at the end of day these law are made by people themselves
That "law" you refer to was a bill proposed by Senator Orrin Hatch
And judging by your use of the English language perhaps you should watch this educational video before you make such crazy statements about American laws.
[youtube=425,350]mEJL2Uuv-oQ[/youtube]
YES CC #1228....WQe all loved school house rock and My Name Is Bill
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can't believe im doing this but
conjuction junction what your function
couldn't help it
i agree what ice is saying
that guy has down syndrome
you spell all the champions names back then
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I believe the guy is thinking right now and I may have come across the rough draft of his next post....
"I not wrong....I are anger grrrrrr.....beating heavyweight of 90's be easy for me to do.....easy as taking lesson in english from Tarzan, Tonto, and Frankenstien Monster"
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Holy Shit Lyle I've been laughing my ass off after that vid...JouLouis you might be one of the least informed posters I've ever seen...Bowe/Lewis/Holyfield/Tyson are all time top 20 HW's...This alone puts the nineties at #2 best era at least and really only behind the 70's b/c Ali/Foreman/Frazier are considered top 10 by many...We can nitpick all of these fighters and eras...The reality is if you are a champion and fight championship caliber fighters over a length of time your going to lose...As far as the Lennox/Vitali fight...I know Vitali was a replacement, but its not like Lennox wasn't training for a title fight and its not like we are talking about a 12 round epic. The fight went 6 rounds...I'm willing to bet LL could get in the ring right now and give us 6 good rounds. He was tired b/c a big man was in that ring giving him the fight of his life...I personally feel that he was lucky that he cut Vitali. I always wondered how Lennox would fair against a fighter that was his equal in size as well as a top talent. To me the fight showed that when Lennox couldn't "fight tall" and was forced to mix it up he was not nearly as dominant...We will never know and the record will always show a W for him, but I think he was on the way to being KO'd
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i''d take the 90's over this shit we have now.
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ccs to everyone with some sense finally like i will say again.
Riddick Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Razor Ruddock
Lennox Lewis
Tommy Morrison
all 5 of these fighters were good young fighters name me another hw era except 70s that had so many great young fighters.
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well this topic deserves a sad click and there you go.
If the division is so piss poor how about you go and be champ since the fighters are so bad and the division is so poor.
If you give me a time machine that would reverse me to the 90's then I would beat up all those bum back in the 90's
Obviously today devision is soo much stronger and I wouldn't make it anywhere not even in the gym around the corner from my house
Riddick Bowe would eat you
Tyson would chew your ears off
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i''d take the 90's over this S*** we have now.
agree
I'd take on the 90's fighter instead of the star we have now
I also notice lyle spent half a day looking for the law thing we were talking about
Because when I told her/him that anyone who has lived in america more than 20 years automatically become a citizen of america.
lyle liteterally took 4hrs just to reply back
But i give lyle credit for studying some law since she been watching that cartoon video and she has even uploaded it for evidence
Once lyle is over 7 years old she/he interest will not just be in cartoon anymore
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
incredibly insane
getting a shot and winning a title is 2 different things
George foreman at 45 was given 2 shot at the world title, 1st one at holyfield and
2nd one at michael moorer since moorer beat up holifield.
George foreman was 20yrs older than moorer
George foreman manage to ko the no 1 fighter at that time, so that truly ahow how bad the division was
Let see if holifield can beat the worst fighter champion of today era
Sultan ibragimov manage to get a draw against Ray austin just before Sultan beat shannon briggs. I personally feel ray austin was robbed.
Holifield is 12 years older than sultan ibragiov and 7years older than ray austin
But let see if holifield can do anywhere well as ray austin (ray austin is not even in top 50 of today era)
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I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
incredibly insane
getting a shot and winning a title is 2 different things
George foreman at 45 was given 2 shot at the world title, 1st one at holyfield and
2nd one at michael moorer since moorer beat up holifield.
George foreman was 20yrs older than moorer
George foreman manage to ko the no 1 fighter at that time, so that truly ahow how bad the division was
Let see if holifield can beat the worst fighter champion of today era
Sultan ibragimov manage to get a draw against Ray austin just before Sultan beat shannon briggs. I personally feel ray austin was robbed.
Holifield is 12 years older than sultan ibragiov and 7years older than ray austin
But let see if holifield can do anywhere well as ray austin (ray austin is not even in top 50 of today era)
Only because Moorer won very razor thin decision against Holyfield who was having trouble with his heart and hurt his shoulder in Moorer fight and just because Foreman become champ doesn't mean the division was weak don't be so stupid do you even know anything about 90s hw era except little details ??
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
And you said i don't understand English but yet your typing most of your words wrong and this statement is yet again another garbage statement we could do that in any era and pick holes fact of matter is 90s had more quality fighters than any other era except 70s and it doesn't matter what you say it doesn't change that fact if you can name me another era except 70s and name the fighters that had more quality than 90s prove me wrong please.
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I knew I was right....For a minute I thought I may have missed some new law or something...I know there was some hoopla over the whole Arnie thing and him stating he wished he could run....
CC Van thanks for the research ;)
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
Listen Louis you have to be the worst informed boxing fan i have ever heard and the first person i have sd 2 times so welcome to saddo i am not sure how long your stay please do every one a favor and read and watch film a bit more and dont get your info simple by looking at records and wins try watching the fights and reading about the fights so you don't look like a idiot
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
this is the 3rd time
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
this is the 3rd time
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
And you said i don't understand English but yet your typing most of your words wrong and this statement is yet again another garbage statement we could do that in any era and pick holes fact of matter is 90s had more quality fighters than any other era except 70s and it doesn't matter what you say it doesn't change that fact if you can name me another era except 70s and name the fighters that had more quality than 90s prove me wrong please.
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
Making an alternate account just to get somebody to support your own opinion. Very sad indeed.
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
Can saddo change the 24 hour sad click rule for certain posters?
lmao
different name but same person
wow
The problem with your theory is that me and duece joined several months apart where as your two accounts are about 2 hours apart (approx. the time where you realized nobody was backing up what you were saying in fact there's a quote in there where you dropped the ball and proved it was you).
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Originally Posted by Davidhayebest
this is the 3rd time
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
Have a nice day ;D
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i''d take the 90's over this S*** we have now.
agree
I'd take on the 90's fighter instead of the star we have now
I also notice lyle spent half a day looking for the law thing we were talking about
Because when I told her/him that anyone who has lived in america more than 20 years automatically become a citizen of america.
lyle liteterally took 4hrs just to reply back
But i give lyle credit for studying some law since she been watching that cartoon video and she has even uploaded it for evidence
Once lyle is over 7 years old she/he interest will not just be in cartoon anymore
......Hey School House Rock was entertaining AND informative....you'd know that if you weren't some pinko commie bastard!
Also I don't have all fucking day to read YOUR replies....which is one of the reasons this reply is soo late.
Reading broken English makes my brain hurt.
I don't know why you insist on calling me a she....perhaps you have confused gender stereotypes in Kazahkstan.
I informed you of the bill in a simple way because you are simple minded which is why you have been replied to so harshly.
I then informed you that Senator Orrin Hatch created the bill in question and I also informed you it was shot down by congress, so no Arnie in the White House.
....and you supplied no evidence whatsoever....hhhhmmmmm I wonder who people will believe.....Politico Lyle or Broken English Typing Dolt from Turkministan
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
randy coture was 44yrs old when he beat the 32 year old no1 tim slvia UFC heavyweight champion
I saw what you call a UFC show once and one guy had another guy on the floor hitting him while the guy was in a wierd position that looked like he could f*ck him right there in the ring. Not what I call fighting, so comparisons to boxing ok??