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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Preme
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didn't know mystic meg posted here :o
If you watch the fight Preme its actually good indicator on how Hatton vs Mayweather will go Chavez trys to swarm Mayweather and its great fight Chavez never dented Mayweather i remember he threw like 90+ punches only landed 6 of them.
I remember that fight cuz sky were trying to promote Floyd at the time . Chavez just tried throwing non stop round after round but his inaccuracy and fatigue cost him . Nobody can go all out for every minute every round . Floyd , blocked and countered and allowed Chavez to punch himself out . Perfect tactics , . It may be the blueprint on how to beat Ricky but I think its doing a diservice to compare Chavez to Hatton . Ricky has beaten top p4p fighters . Chavez has never won a big fight in his life and is much smaller .
Floyd will need to show alot more than that in December cuz Ricky will be posing alot of probelms . More than Oscar did IMO .
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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I wasn't comparing Gatti to Hatton i was simply explaining that heart alone isn't going to win you a fight and Gatti is an example of a boxer with plenty of heart but few wins against the top guys.
The only way Hatton has a chance is if he uses his jab against Mayweather to back him up and then apply pressure and use his punch output efficently rather than trying to throw the kitchen sink at Floyd like Chavez. If Hatton trys all that hugging shyte he will get either a sharp right hand lead in his face or an uppercut. He needs to be paitient and wait for oppertunitys to open up.
The mistake that a lot of these guys make when they have Floyd on the ropes is they throw far too many shots and only his gloves and elbows and then when they rest for a second Floyd goes to work efficently landing single clean punches. If Hatton can keep Floyd on the ropes and pick his spots then the fight will get mighty interesting but i dont think Hatton is a paitent enough fighter he likes to play to the crowd too much and he doesn't exactly ue his jab all that often.
For the record, I don't think Hatton is going to win.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Yer!! Thats exactly how it will pan out, Mayweather will be just like Lacy :dummespost: Never mind that Calzaghe is realistically a better p4p fighter than Hatton no question, and Mayweather is even considerably moreso than Calzaghe. Yep, Mayweather will be just like Lacy. Plodding forward with no defence hoping to land that one big KO punch, while Hatton moves all over the ring, uses all angles, flurries, turns him, and never clinches once. Yeah that's just how it will go, you really know your boxing.
i didnt mean it in the context of the way they fight i meant it as in the outcome of the fight ;)
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
well i think Hatton offers a lot more than chavez and i just feel that this fight has a lot to live up to. I just dont want to see floyd do his usually back foot fighting and show that he wants to hurt Hatton. But only time will tell, come on ricky!!!
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
well i think Hatton offers a lot more than chavez and i just feel that this fight has a lot to live up to. I just dont want to see floyd do his usually back foot fighting and show that he wants to hurt Hatton. But only time will tell, come on ricky!!!
floyd shud do what floyd feels best at doing... why should flyd come forward and try to hurt hatton? so hatton can maybe get close to him and try land a lucky shot?
I expect mayweather to spend the first part of the fight throwing and moving, on the back foot breaking hatton over rounds before finishing him...
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
well i think Hatton offers a lot more than chavez and i just feel that this fight has a lot to live up to. I just dont want to see floyd do his usually back foot fighting and show that he wants to hurt Hatton. But only time will tell, come on ricky!!!
floyd shud do what floyd feels best at doing... why should flyd come forward and try to hurt hatton? so hatton can maybe get close to him and try land a lucky shot?
I expect mayweather to spend the first part of the fight throwing and moving, on the back foot breaking hatton over rounds before finishing him...
because he said hes going to knock him out and make this a really good fight. If hes so good the lucky shot wont come and we can see a really good fight instead of floyd running away.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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cc btw ice..
tbh i see it going alot like calzaghe v lacy...
Yer and lacy is going to be mayweather and Hattons going to be Calzaghe! there is a lot more to this fight than the Chavez-Mayweather fight and that thing is called pride and i know for a fact Ricky Hatton is going to have a lot of that come fight night. I wouldnt right him off yet, i think he is Mayweathers hardest fight to date at the momment.
Well Chavez had pride most boxers have pride i don't see what thats got to do with anything.
These guys go well back and it will be a very hottly anticipated contest. I just cant see Ricky giving floyd anything because he knows how big it is. I just think ricky will better chavez and learn of what he did wrong.
Chavez didn't do that much wrong he used very good tactic vs Floyd but it was Floyd's defence and countering that really payed off and in the end he started to hammer Chavez i think this will happen in Hatton fight with Hatton starting off really fast with Mayweather making him miss then starting to hammer him with counters as Hatton is rushing in and get the win late on in the 10th.
well i think Hatton offers a lot more than chavez and i just feel that this fight has a lot to live up to. I just dont want to see floyd do his usually back foot fighting and show that he wants to hurt Hatton. But only time will tell, come on ricky!!!
floyd shud do what floyd feels best at doing... why should flyd come forward and try to hurt hatton? so hatton can maybe get close to him and try land a lucky shot?
I expect mayweather to spend the first part of the fight throwing and moving, on the back foot breaking hatton over rounds before finishing him...
because he said hes going to knock him out and make this a really good fight. If hes so good the lucky shot wont come and we can see a really good fight instead of floyd running away.
actualy he said he was going to knockhim out with a body punch...
and honestly bla bla bla bla bla shit i dont think i ever seen a fight where both boxers said they were going to outbox the fella for 12 round son the backfoot, funny thing is tho, its only mayweather whom people bitch about saying hes going to knock people out
i mean shit, get fooled once, fair enough, get fooled twice, well your a dumb ass
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
It's not a very nice way of putting it, he's a soldier and I was gutted when he injured his knee against Diaz but it's the best way of summing him up. He's slower, shorter, not as strong, not as good defensively, throws less punches, yet he still managed to win rounds against Mayweather and caused him significant problems, so did Castillo. It's been a while since Mayweather has faught a guy his own size, which gives him a better chance in one respect, he's used to fighting bigger opponents so Hatton will be a welcome change. However it's also been a long time since he has faught someone who is accustomed to fighting on the inside as Hatton.
Arguably Hatton is the best body puncher he has ever faced, he's physically one of the strongest he has ever faced and he is also one of the hungriest and most determined young champions he has ever faced. Hatton is at the top of his game. Mayweather is obviously a big favourite, how could he not be, but I think if anyone below Middleweight is ever going to beat Floyd, it has to be The Hitman.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Three things i see:
1. Hatton is alot stronger and has more power than Chevez
2. Hatton has alot quicker handspeed/footwork
3. Chevez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
I think Floyd wins by 7 rnds to 5. But it will be a close hard fight.
Chavez didnt keep the same pace as the fight went on, something i feel Hatton will do.
Yes because he was getting hit by hard punches Hatton got wobbled by lighting hitting Collazo at Welterweight and Mayweather hits alot hard than Collazo and is much better boxer Hatton at Welterweight didn't look like he could bully the top boys thats how it looked in Collazo fight.
Mayweather hits alot harder? I beg to differ wheres your proof of this? Old man Shambra Mitchell? But Collzao is a big man nearly 5 ft 10 who walks about around 175 lbs. Mayweather isnt hes naturally a smaller man. Mayweather wont take the sting out of Hatton with his power??? So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will?? Sorry but if you think Mayweather will want to fight Hatton in the pocket i think your totally wrong, Collazo did after first couple of rounds beacuse he was the stronger man, Mayweather will not be stronger than Hatton i put my house on that.
Well he managed to rock Oscar at 154 i tell you what Mayweather has underrated power he may not hit with devasting power but he has the kind of power to make you respect him.
Collazo doesn't have the snap to his punches like Mayweather Collazo has no real power yet he managed to rock Hatton plenty of times not just the 12th.
So Tsyzu couldnt stop him in his tracks with his power but Mayweather will??
I think Mayweather will make Hatton respect his power the fight with Tszyu was at LightWelterweight where he was able to bully Tszyu at Welterweight Hatton doesn't carry same power and he can't bully fighters at higher weights thats impression i got from Collazo fight Hatton's defence was terrible in Collazo fight his chin was right there to be hit all the time just rushing forward with no defence what so ever if Hatton was in Mayweather that night Mayweather would of stopped him and thats another problem Hatton's defence seems a bit leaky and with someone with the timing and speed of Mayweather he will make Hatton pay dearly.
Hatton - Collazo is not a yardstick to measure the mayweather fight with.
Collazo is a southpaw, Hatton cannot fight southpaws....simple as - especially bigger ones.
Mayweaher will probs win but it won't be that one sided.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
It's not a very nice way of putting it, he's a soldier and I was gutted when he injured his knee against Diaz but it's the best way of summing him up. He's slower, shorter, not as strong, not as good defensively, throws less punches, yet he still managed to win rounds against Mayweather and caused him significant problems, so did Castillo. It's been a while since Mayweather has faught a guy his own size, which gives him a better chance in one respect, he's used to fighting bigger opponents so Hatton will be a welcome change. However it's also been a long time since he has faught someone who is accustomed to fighting on the inside as Hatton.
Arguably Hatton is the best body puncher he has ever faced, he's physically one of the strongest he has ever faced and he is also one of the hungriest and most determined young champions he has ever faced. Hatton is at the top of his game. Mayweather is obviously a big favourite, how could he not be, but I think if anyone below Middleweight is ever going to beat Floyd, it has to be The Hitman.
with all that said, mayweather has come along long way since those fights... hes alot better, more exp...
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
It's not a very nice way of putting it, he's a soldier and I was gutted when he injured his knee against Diaz but it's the best way of summing him up. He's slower, shorter, not as strong, not as good defensively, throws less punches, yet he still managed to win rounds against Mayweather and caused him significant problems, so did Castillo. It's been a while since Mayweather has faught a guy his own size, which gives him a better chance in one respect, he's used to fighting bigger opponents so Hatton will be a welcome change. However it's also been a long time since he has faught someone who is accustomed to fighting on the inside as Hatton.
Arguably Hatton is the best body puncher he has ever faced, he's physically one of the strongest he has ever faced and he is also one of the hungriest and most determined young champions he has ever faced. Hatton is at the top of his game. Mayweather is obviously a big favourite, how could he not be, but I think if anyone below Middleweight is ever going to beat Floyd, it has to be The Hitman.
You make a good point but i disagree with this part.
throws less punches,
Chavez threw over 100+ punches and over 90+ punches in every round against Mayweather how many more punches can you throw ?
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
It's not a very nice way of putting it, he's a soldier and I was gutted when he injured his knee against Diaz but it's the best way of summing him up. He's slower, shorter, not as strong, not as good defensively, throws less punches, yet he still managed to win rounds against Mayweather and caused him significant problems, so did Castillo. It's been a while since Mayweather has faught a guy his own size, which gives him a better chance in one respect, he's used to fighting bigger opponents so Hatton will be a welcome change. However it's also been a long time since he has faught someone who is accustomed to fighting on the inside as Hatton.
Arguably Hatton is the best body puncher he has ever faced, he's physically one of the strongest he has ever faced and he is also one of the hungriest and most determined young champions he has ever faced. Hatton is at the top of his game. Mayweather is obviously a big favourite, how could he not be, but I think if anyone below Middleweight is ever going to beat Floyd, it has to be The Hitman.
You make a good point but i disagree with this part.
throws less punches,
Chavez threw over 100+ punches and over 90+ punches in every round against Mayweather how many more punches can you throw ?
Yeah that's right, I should rephrase that into power punches.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
simply put, i don't see Hatton winning more than 2 rnds, and the 2 he might win will be if Mayweather chooses to take em off, Hatton has no jab to make Mayweather cover up and not counter, and well Mayweather is faster, puts together better combos, and lands crisper cleaner punches than Collazo, if he wins by TKO it'll be by cuts or swelling, or by landing so many clean punches with no answer, either way Hatton is finally getting his 1
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
Good to see all the optimism on both sides ;) I will stay with my pick of Floyd TKO by round 9.. Again like someone mentioned already, Hatton has 0 defense and 0 jab Floyd is to slick and to fast and will wear Hatton out down the stretch... It will be a valiant effort but heart and pride dont matter when your fighting the PFP best and have nothing out of the ordinary to match him skill wise ;)
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
Chavez is a good fighter but he's basically a poor man's Ricky Hatton, he's weaker in every department.
I wouldn't go as far to say Chavez is poor man's version of Hatton there isn't that much difference yes Hatton is better fighter but i certainly wouldn't call him poor man's version of Hatton.
It's not a very nice way of putting it, he's a soldier and I was gutted when he injured his knee against Diaz but it's the best way of summing him up. He's slower, shorter, not as strong, not as good defensively, throws less punches, yet he still managed to win rounds against Mayweather and caused him significant problems, so did Castillo. It's been a while since Mayweather has faught a guy his own size, which gives him a better chance in one respect, he's used to fighting bigger opponents so Hatton will be a welcome change. However it's also been a long time since he has faught someone who is accustomed to fighting on the inside as Hatton.
Arguably Hatton is the best body puncher he has ever faced, he's physically one of the strongest he has ever faced and he is also one of the hungriest and most determined young champions he has ever faced. Hatton is at the top of his game. Mayweather is obviously a big favourite, how could he not be, but I think if anyone below Middleweight is ever going to beat Floyd, it has to be The Hitman.
Yeah right... If anyone below middleweight is going to beat Floyd, it's going to be the hitman?? That's BS. Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Vernon Forrest, all have a WAY better shot against him. Id even say Clottey, Cintron, and Judah would have a better shot since they could hurt him with one punch.
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I tend to sit and read, the silent type...
What are my thoughts? I was watching Curry vs Honeyghan. All the 'experts' talking about 'Superstar' Curry and the 'Kid' (Honeyghan was actually a year older, but why let a mere fact ruin some patronising). Then the 'Honeyghan has too much weight in his legs' then 'oh wait, Curry has ring rust'. It progressed all the way through the spectrum to 'A shot Curry'.
So come the fight I'm expecting some Deja Vu...
Hitman to shock! 5th round body shot stops PBF.
Then back here for your hipswerves,slopey shoulders, fast backtracking and generally evasive excuses :)
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I tend to sit and read, the silent type...
What are my thoughts? I was watching Curry vs Honeyghan. All the 'experts' talking about 'Superstar' Curry and the 'Kid' (Honeyghan was actually a year older, but why let a mere fact ruin some patronising). Then the 'Honeyghan has too much weight in his legs' then 'oh wait, Curry has ring rust'. It progressed all the way through the spectrum to 'A shot Curry'.
So come the fight I'm expecting some Deja Vu...
Hitman to shock! 5th round body shot stops PBF.
Then back here for your hipswerves,slopey shoulders, fast backtracking and generally evasive excuses :)
Even I the most rabid Mayweather fan can concede, its Boxing and anything can happen  ;)
Welcome to Saddo's the best damn Boxing forum on the net and have your 1st :coolclick: on me
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I tend to sit and read, the silent type...
What are my thoughts? I was watching Curry vs Honeyghan. All the 'experts' talking about 'Superstar' Curry and the 'Kid' (Honeyghan was actually a year older, but why let a mere fact ruin some patronising). Then the 'Honeyghan has too much weight in his legs' then 'oh wait, Curry has ring rust'. It progressed all the way through the spectrum to 'A shot Curry'.
So come the fight I'm expecting some Deja Vu...
Hitman to shock! 5th round body shot stops PBF.
Then back here for your hipswerves,slopey shoulders, fast backtracking and generally evasive excuses :)
Wishful thinking. But it's also foolish thinking. Honeyghan is pretty much a fighter who was at the right place at the right time. Curry was so weight drained it was sad. He had no business still fighting at 147 and paid for it. A prime Curry destroys Honeyghan the way Mark Breland destroyed him. And keep in mind Hatton will not be fighting a weigh drained fighter like Honeyghan did. Mayweather by dominate win over a in over his head Hatton
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Your arrogance outshines my foolishness then :)
You cannot possibly know exactly what will happen on the night. That was my whole point, glad someone caught my drift :)
But to carefully explain it for you...The Hatton that turns up that night could be the man at the right time and place to beat PBF. And certain 'experts' (God forbid I would ever include you) will have a lot of egg on their faces.
I'm just hoping for a shocker because it will REALLY open up endless possibilities!
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Tale of the tape
Name: |Floyd Mayweather Jr. |Advantage| |Ricky Hatton
Height: |5'8" | <== | |5'6"
Reach: |72" | <== | |67"
Age: |30 | ==> | |29
Stance: |Orthodox | === | |Orthodox
Record: |38-0-0 (24 KOs) | ==> | |43-0-0 (31 KOs)
Record at WW: |3-0-0 (1 KO) | <== | |1-0-0 (0 KOs)
Win%: |100% | === | |100%
KO%: |63.2% | ==> | |72.1%
Years Pro: |11 | <== | |10
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
One thing we know for sure Floyd will not show up half assed. Hatton will have to be at his very best and he will have to learn to use his jab in the space of a few months. No jab = Hatton getting hit on the way in all night long.
Hatton wants this fight to be a war in the centre of the ring that why he is dissin Floyd about his style percistently but Mayweather is too smart to take any of that shyte.
I think if Hatton can use a quick jab consistently and back Floyd up into the ropes he has every chance. He needs to be patient when he has Floyd there and pick his shots wisely otherwise he ill be eating counters. I would give Hatton a better chance if the reach advantage wasnt as big in mayweather's favour. The one thing Hatton shouldn't do is hit and hold case Mayweather will counter him when he trys that and also spin him round.
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I honestly don't see this fight being close. I think Floyd's going to box his head off.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
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I tend to sit and read, the silent type...
What are my thoughts? I was watching Curry vs Honeyghan. All the 'experts' talking about 'Superstar' Curry and the 'Kid' (Honeyghan was actually a year older, but why let a mere fact ruin some patronising). Then the 'Honeyghan has too much weight in his legs' then 'oh wait, Curry has ring rust'. It progressed all the way through the spectrum to 'A shot Curry'.
So come the fight I'm expecting some Deja Vu...
Hitman to shock! 5th round body shot stops PBF.
Then back here for your hipswerves,slopey shoulders, fast backtracking and generally evasive excuses :)
Wishful thinking. But it's also foolish thinking. Honeyghan is pretty much a fighter who was at the right place at the right time. Curry was so weight drained it was sad. He had no business still fighting at 147 and paid for it. A prime Curry destroys Honeyghan the way Mark Breland destroyed him. And keep in mind Hatton will not be fighting a weigh drained fighter like Honeyghan did. Mayweather by dominate win over a in over his head Hatton
Well im not sure if even a prime Curry would of beaten that version of Honeyghan but what i am sure of this wern't the same Curry who done a number on Milton McCrory with one of the best and quickest left hooks i've ever seen its shame Curry went downhill he was very talented fighter.
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Re: This Is How I See Hatton vs Mayweather Fight Going.
An awful lot of discussion considering it's such an easy fight for Floyd and he is just taking it for a pay day :D
Not many people Stateside have seen Hatton prior to Tszyu. Take it from me, Collazo, Urango were NOT Ricky Hatton. Even Maussa was substandard (but nobody looks good against him!)
Chavez, sound, but Castillo didn't do too bad with his tactics in the first fight he had with Floyd did he?
They're aren't 20,000 Brits coming to Vegas for a holiday or to see him get beat, the majority of us have watched him from day one actually believe he is going to do it and that's against a fighter who is one of the very best to lace em up.
Hatton has a VERY big chance in this fight and not just with a body shot.
Great points by the majority in this thread though ;)
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Mayweather Hatton (Skill + Tallent + Training=Win)
No what am Mayweather's fan, but ill try to be neutral here. It was on 2002 back in the days, me and my friend we thought about this fight, i told my friend that that it was too early for the fight to be on since they were both in the state of becoming hall of fames, he told me that it wont be interesting if they meet with some loses in between, i told him that Mayweather will never be beaten he told me Hatton will never be beaten either, i said then we must wait baby. Now i think the waiting is over these two undefeated are meeting, and trust me there will be a loser, the question is whom, the answer is Hatton. There are two ways that Mayweather can win the fight, either by fighting a smart defensive fight which will lead to a very easy win for him, there he will do nothing he will trade not even one combination, it will be those right jab leads, 1 jab, faint with a jab up and land it down stairs and trust me even if Hatton can Gamble he will never even land one blow. If Pretty Boy (PB) decides to do it that way people will be bored and there will be no appreciation but that will still be a win. The other way he can win the fight is using the same strategy he used on Chavez,Ndou, Corley,Gatti and Harnandez that is being there the whole night with that right hand hidden behind that left iron sholder and counter him while he comes forward. Hatton can move but he cant move when he is attacking because he is a banger brawler hence he sits in his punches, now that lightning right uppercut of PB will be dancing on his face, not once not twice but three times atleast.
Guys trust me Hatton is a tough fighter but, but that is not what matters when you have Floyd in front of you, The guy is a geneous he has good reflexes and speed that makes you to ice, his left jab that is usually hooked will be the best threat fo Hatton. I watched many good boxers in my time, am talking about Whittaker, Chamacho, Leonard, Witter,Morrales you name them, but in all of them there has never been someone like Mayweather, he is natural in such a way that he is never tired, there are no strains and fetiaque in his world he will always be undefeated. One other thing we should know he trains more than any other boxer in the planet.
I just wish that he can go there and get derty if nessecary so that people can see how great he is.
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If I was Hatton I would get under Mayweather's skin by calling him runner, weak puncher, sissy etc. It worked for Duran against an unbeaten Leonard do it could work for Hatton, but he seems too nice a guy to say these things. Also he does need to fight dirty with Floyd, and get very physical and did I mention the Punch in the ball's tactic that worked against Tszyu?
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I tend to sit and read, the silent type...
What are my thoughts? I was watching Curry vs Honeyghan. All the 'experts' talking about 'Superstar' Curry and the 'Kid' (Honeyghan was actually a year older, but why let a mere fact ruin some patronising). Then the 'Honeyghan has too much weight in his legs' then 'oh wait, Curry has ring rust'. It progressed all the way through the spectrum to 'A shot Curry'.
So come the fight I'm expecting some Deja Vu...
Hitman to shock! 5th round body shot stops PBF.
Then back here for your hipswerves,slopey shoulders, fast backtracking and generally evasive excuses :)
Wishful thinking. But it's also foolish thinking. Honeyghan is pretty much a fighter who was at the right place at the right time. Curry was so weight drained it was sad. He had no business still fighting at 147 and paid for it. A prime Curry destroys Honeyghan the way Mark Breland destroyed him. And keep in mind Hatton will not be fighting a weigh drained fighter like Honeyghan did. Mayweather by dominate win over a in over his head Hatton
Your arrogance outshines my foolishness then :)
You cannot possibly know exactly what will happen on the night. That was my whole point, glad someone caught my drift :)
But to carefully explain it for you...The Hatton that turns up that night could be the man at the right time and place to beat PBF. And certain 'experts' (God forbid I would ever include you) will have a lot of egg on their faces.
I'm just hoping for a shocker because it will REALLY open up endless possibilities!
Hey, im getting used to the way these noobs are handling you VD ^-^
BTW, :coolclick: Kensai, welcome to Saddoboxing 8)
However, with that being said, over these last two years ive seen Hatton & Maywaether change slightly.
Style wise, this match up just aint what i used to think it would be.
Hatton mauls & spoils too much these days. In a sense, its what he does instead of boxing.
To a certain extent, when Hatton aint throwing punches, he's still on top of you, but out of danger.
Sometimes its blatant holding, most times its a lot more savvy. Fair enough.
But those kind of tactics will prove to be VERY ineffective against the pretty boy, simply becasue Floyd is just a whole different set-up in defence.
Plus IMO, Floyds way of infighting is very underrated and unique.
Due to the clash of styles, I think you'll find Hatton will start to do two things in the mid to later rounds that he has never done before.
1) Wait to throw
Up close, on Floyds chest, doing nothing. If only for a few, very noticable seconds. But enough for Floyd to tee-off on Hattons head & body for Hatton to then...
2) Go backwards
Either as a hurt man or as a Hatton who has struggled to bust up a slick counter-puncher and has had to go back on the outside and box
Both will be soooo detrimental to his confidence, let alone his chances of winning. Floyd will school Hatton if and when this happens however i doubt there'll be a stoppage. Unless of course a compassionate (and rightly protective) Billy Graham pulls him out of there.
This is exactly how i see the fight going at this point ;)
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
Why am i anti-Hatton when im just giving my opinion please explain how i am anti-Hatton and also explain how Hatton will win i put this on here because thats how i think the fight will go and to get some good debates going.
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
Why am i anti-Hatton when im just giving my opinion please explain how i am anti-Hatton and also explain how Hatton will win i put this on here because thats how i think the fight will go and to get some good debates going.
Yep there's nothing wrong with it, I admire people who have the courage of their convictions. It's not anti-Hatton, it's pro-ICB!
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
Why am i anti-Hatton when im just giving my opinion please explain how i am anti-Hatton and also explain how Hatton will win i put this on here because thats how i think the fight will go and to get some good debates going.
Yep there's nothing wrong with it, I admire people who have the courage of their convictions. It's not anti-Hatton, it's pro-ICB!
Thanks mate im not Hatton hater at all i was the one defending him in Collazo fight i respect Hatton he has some big cojones and big heart im English so i will be rooting for Hatton of course i will but i think Mayweather will win.
This is huge for British boxing if Hatton managed to pull this off this would be the biggest win ever for British boxing abroad because Turpin beat Robinson in London ;)
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
Why am i anti-Hatton when im just giving my opinion please explain how i am anti-Hatton and also explain how Hatton will win i put this on here because thats how i think the fight will go and to get some good debates going.
Yep there's nothing wrong with it, I admire people who have the courage of their convictions. It's not anti-Hatton, it's pro-ICB!
Thanks mate im not Hatton hater at all i was the one defending him in Collazo fight i respect Hatton he has some big cojones and big heart im English so i will be rooting for Hatton of course i will but i think Mayweather will win.
This is huge for British boxing if Hatton managed to pull this off this would be the biggest win ever for British boxing abroad because Turpin beat Robinson in London ;)
Even though it says "Come on Mayweather!" in your sig? ;)
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mayweather will hit and run and win a boring unanimous decision.
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mayweather will hit and run and win a boring unanimous decision.
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It goes either:
1. PBF setting track records in the ring and winning by attrition. We all go to sleep bored.
2. He takes Hattons bait and goes to war and actually helps provide the spectacular we all desire.
I give Hatton a fair chance in this scenario. If it happens early on? I see Hatton really hurting PBF,
enough to sting PBFs pride. The key for Hatton is to get PBF in a war.
My prediction is PBF opts for track spikes and all of us checking what channel we are on :-\
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You really are anti-Hatton ICE COLD aren't you. Hatton WILL win this fight.
Why am i anti-Hatton when im just giving my opinion please explain how i am anti-Hatton and also explain how Hatton will win i put this on here because thats how i think the fight will go and to get some good debates going.
Yep there's nothing wrong with it, I admire people who have the courage of their convictions. It's not anti-Hatton, it's pro-ICB!
Thanks mate im not Hatton hater at all i was the one defending him in Collazo fight i respect Hatton he has some big cojones and big heart im English so i will be rooting for Hatton of course i will but i think Mayweather will win.
This is huge for British boxing if Hatton managed to pull this off this would be the biggest win ever for British boxing abroad because Turpin beat Robinson in London ;)
Even though it says "Come on Mayweather!" in your sig? ;)
Well i am Mayweather fan im not really massive fan of Hatton but i certainly don't dislike Hatton my head will be rooting for Mayweather my heart will be rooting for Hatton if that makes sense ???
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If I was Hatton I would get under Mayweather's skin by calling him runner, weak puncher, sissy etc.
I honestly don't think this will work. ODLH tried it.
Floyd has his way the mayority of the time in the ring. Floyd is a smart fighter and very focused. Floyd is very close to being a Matrix.
He knows when to shift gears. He will take some risks but he will not be foolish enough to take huge risks. I have tried to figure PBF out. I have tried to see if there are any patterns he might have and there are none that I can put my finger on. You just never know what he is going to do next. That is one of the greatest assests Floyd has. He is very hard to time because he has no lengthy patterns. I have watched him in super slow motion frame by frame forwards and backwards and his style is still a mystery to me.
If Floyd sticks around at least 2 more years and handles the 147 D, he will cement his legacy and I think he knows this. Hatton alone will not be the final nail in the coffin.
Bottom line is if I had to fight this devil in disguise (PBF), I would pass unless it was for major money.
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