Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by taansend
I appreciate everyone's reply. I haven't seen him myself except for some grainy Utube images. Thanks to you all.
It seems that most people don't think he can compete with the Eastern Europeans but winning ain't everything (although its fairly important ;D). Just having this guy compete at an exciting world class level can aspire more big US-Mexican fighters to the ring. There's some big, tough esse's in Cali & Texas who would be an exciting addition to the sterile heavyweight ranks...
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Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by SeanE
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I've seen him fight, he is strong, has decent offensive skills for a heavy...but he stands too straight up, no head movement IMO
Yes but name me one of the top Heavyweights that have head movement ?? and most of the Heavyweight's do stand straight up.
....Wladimir and some of the other guys are so tall they really don't need to move their heads.
Eddie Chambers doesn't move a whole bunch but he's hard as hell to hit.
I think Arreola beats Chambers without much problems
You don't think Chambers handspeed and counterpunching would give Arreola fits? Chambers hasn't hasn't fought anybody with Arreolas output, and I think he could cause Chambers problems, too, but Chambers would be by far the best opponent Arreola has faced.
I think Arreola has to much power for Chambers. I think he knocks him out mid-round
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I've seen him fight, he is strong, has decent offensive skills for a heavy...but he stands too straight up, no head movement IMO
TWO WORDS, Alex Garcia! REsearch!
Wow!
Wait a minute what does 'Terra' have to do with Arreola?
I really don't see the resemblance...
Please filll me in.
Garcia was a heavy who rose up threw the networks (usa T.n.f) Fighting alot of c level types and never weres.His biggest opponent leading into 93' was Ossie ocasio,former cruiser champ who was used up.None the less all three ranking organizations had him in the top ten.The W.B.C had him behind only Holyfield and Tony tucker and Garcia #3.There were talks and offers about him fighting Foreman or Holmes for about $500,000 but he and his camp thought he needed more work? An honest assesment but A lesson learned.
In june of 93' and at 32-1 26 kos he took a "tune up" against 10-8 Mike dixon while waiting for a shot.Dixon was another cruiser who jumped to hvy for paydays vs.then prospects like C.sanders,Bruce Seldon,Lennox Lewis,Ray Mercer Etc."The SanFernando Hammer" did what he did best,come forward behind a so/so jab and a Big right hand,plodding ahead looking for the KO.Midway through the 2nd Dixon Spins off the ropes,gets alex Backing up and wings a Left hook that Finds Garcias high temple,KTFO,alex got up woozy and Dixon finished him.Huge Upset at the Time....But was it really?Another case of shiny win/ko records Do not mean everything,and one to many journeymen "stay busy"fights can catch up to you.
Garcia was a strong puncher and a really nice guy but as one deminsional as they came.He was built on alot of vicious KO's and Tv freindly style.He never would get close to the top ten again or come close to making that big payday he missed.He came back the next month to face James Warring(former cruiser champ)and was held to a Draw followed by an embarrasing TKO 2 against jouneyman bullbozer in Garing Lane.Got descent wins over tough guy Joe Hipp and Slickster Buster mathis Jr. as well as rematch win over 10 With dixon.Made a comeback In 05' and got poleaxed by a 4-10 fighter!!lesson learned....you can fight all the bums you want but when you get rankings and offers....TAKE THEM.Tomorrows In this sport are not Guarenteed.
Here I thought you were talking about Alex 'Terra' Garcia.
My bad, wrong Alex... ;D
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I've seen him fight, he is strong, has decent offensive skills for a heavy...but he stands too straight up, no head movement IMO
TWO WORDS, Alex Garcia! REsearch!
Wow!
Wait a minute what does 'Terra' have to do with Arreola?
I really don't see the resemblance...
Please filll me in.
Garcia was a heavy who rose up threw the networks (usa T.n.f) Fighting alot of c level types and never weres.His biggest opponent leading into 93' was Ossie ocasio,former cruiser champ who was used up.None the less all three ranking organizations had him in the top ten.The W.B.C had him behind only Holyfield and Tony tucker and Garcia #3.There were talks and offers about him fighting Foreman or Holmes for about $500,000 but he and his camp thought he needed more work? An honest assesment but A lesson learned.
In june of 93' and at 32-1 26 kos he took a "tune up" against 10-8 Mike dixon while waiting for a shot.Dixon was another cruiser who jumped to hvy for paydays vs.then prospects like C.sanders,Bruce Seldon,Lennox Lewis,Ray Mercer Etc."The SanFernando Hammer" did what he did best,come forward behind a so/so jab and a Big right hand,plodding ahead looking for the KO.Midway through the 2nd Dixon Spins off the ropes,gets alex Backing up and wings a Left hook that Finds Garcias high temple,KTFO,alex got up woozy and Dixon finished him.Huge Upset at the Time....But was it really?Another case of shiny win/ko records Do not mean everything,and one to many journeymen "stay busy"fights can catch up to you.
Garcia was a strong puncher and a really nice guy but as one deminsional as they came.He was built on alot of vicious KO's and Tv freindly style.He never would get close to the top ten again or come close to making that big payday he missed.He came back the next month to face James Warring(former cruiser champ)and was held to a Draw followed by an embarrasing TKO 2 against jouneyman bullbozer in Garing Lane.Got descent wins over tough guy Joe Hipp and Slickster Buster mathis Jr. as well as rematch win over 10 With dixon.Made a comeback In 05' and got poleaxed by a 4-10 fighter!!lesson learned....you can fight all the bums you want but when you get rankings and offers....TAKE THEM.Tomorrows In this sport are not Guarenteed.
Here I thought you were talking about Alex 'Terra' Garcia.
My bad, wrong Alex... ;D
You serious? I expected a little more out of you Mick
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
...Arreola let's his opponent lead too much....let Wlad pop you with the jab 3 times in a row and I'm sure you won't be ko-ing him anytime soon.
Arreola is good but all anyone can hope to be in the division right now is second fiddle to Wladimir!
He gets hit too much, he's not THAT powerful, and he isn't a defensive genius....Arreola is either going to get lucky, wait for someone to get old, or just be an average fighter
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by dasamm
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Originally Posted by taansend
Thomas Hayes is not decent..if you check his boxrec you will see very few fighters he has fought who have winning records. That is a very padded 26-2. The win means nothing.
I seen Arreola fight twice. Looked a little sloppy to me both times, and despite his high KO percentage he doesnt have much power. He is mostly beating up on nodbody's
Who can say in a couple years. He has good size and alright speed but he hasnt fought any good opposition yet
Can you name a prospect who came up and didn't face nobodies? Arreola is facing bums. But he's doing what he suppose to do with them. He's knocking them out. But it is time he steps up the competition a little.
right on.
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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He has fought nothing but bums.
He wont get past someone like Samuel Peter.
lmao at "someone like peter"
Who the hell has peter dominated? jeremy williams? lmao...
Give this kid a chance...with alil time he might put a dent in the hwd. And probably have more talent that overrated samuel peter.
Peter dominated James Toney. Sure, Toney is a tubby, short heavyweight, but he is still very slick despite being 30+ pounds overweight. Peter showed a lot of growth in their second fight.
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
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Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
He has fought nothing but bums.
He wont get past someone like Samuel Peter.
lmao at "someone like peter"
Who the hell has peter dominated? jeremy williams? lmao...
Give this kid a chance...with alil time he might put a dent in the hwd. And probably have more talent that overrated samuel peter.
Peter dominated James Toney. Sure, Toney is a tubby, short heavyweight, but he is still very slick despite being 30+ pounds overweight. Peter showed a lot of growth in their second fight.
During that 2nd fight with " lights out" I asked my self,Is it the fact that in this particular fight Peter Is making it easy to like Him with his skills here or the fact Toney makes it so easy to root against him with his lack of respect to fans,himself,and boxing?
I think Peter has grown and is boxing much better.Toney may have been a fat slob but he is also one of the slickest versitile fighters of Rescent memory. Arreola Is not ready for the big time,Not yet.
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....and to think people on this very site thought that James Toney would beat Wladimir Klitschko...hahahaha
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
Eddie Chambers would beat Arreola. Arreola throws plenty and has some good skills, but Chambers would pick him apart, like he did to Brock. Arreola is a good fighter, but he's not the savior of the division or even a legit future challenge to Wlad.
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
Forgot about this ol'crusty thread,Cobweb BUMP... ;D Never did answer the question :-X. Full deserved props for crushing Witherspoon,went in early and Took that victory.His punches look at times choppy,1st KD almost looked like an elbow?The stoppage was going to happen regardless of crappy ending.Great win to get him on the big show but as determined ,willing and resilient as he is I can not see him amongst the top ranks right now.Nice heavy hands,went to the body and a thick beard but looks like he can be out hustled and pretty hittable,not sure about his long distance conditioning ...could be a big problem.
With the easy availability of Belts out there,I give him a hitters chance in the early rounds against many guys and shows nice willingness & ability to finish.Will be very exciting to watch for as long as he go's.
Re: Chris Arreola - Future Heavyweight Champ?
He's got the requirements. Yes, I believe so.
