Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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10-01-2007, 03:10 AM
Taeth

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by southakron314

Calzaghe open his hips too much when trying to throw a power shot. Squaring your body up like that leaves you open. He pitter patters his punches in bunches and I think Pavlik would have him inside of 6 rounds. I think Pavlik has more power than Kessler.

More power than Kessler? Let them fight, and I'll back to you on that.
10-01-2007, 05:17 AM
Mr140

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

Question if kessler loses then what will happen to him just to ask
10-01-2007, 05:18 AM
Mr140

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

And for the record i hope Cal wins and so people stop giving him so much crap all the time
10-01-2007, 07:00 AM
eagle

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Question if kessler loses then what will happen to him just to ask

Depends how he loses.
Close decision: Maybe rematch
Wide UD: He'll be called overrated
KO'd: He'll be called even more overrated.

I think Calzaghe has more to worry about tho. A loss to Kess will really damage his legacy. Many feel its his first true test, and he is too old to really come back from a big defeat.
10-01-2007, 07:38 AM
Dark Lord Al

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by Preme

both calzaghe and kessler would ruin pavlik, he has nothing but power... S*** i new this would happen if he won, its always the same.

I love Joe Calzaghe PREME
we dont all share your views my friend , 2 mandatory fights in 10 years lol
you dont think Pavlik is better than any of Calzaghes previous oponant ?
id pick Kelly to win inside distance as for Kessler well for me he has alot to prove againest Joe.
Kessler wins in 11
10-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Fenster

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?
10-01-2007, 12:24 PM
ICB

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?

Hitting Lacy with 1006 punches and not being able to stop him enough said ;)

Calzaghe used to have quite a bit of power in his younger days but not anymore.
10-01-2007, 12:33 PM
Fenster

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?

Hitting Lacy with 1006 punches and not being able to stop him enough said ;)

Calzaghe used to have quite a bit of power in his younger days but not anymore.

Has Lacy ever been stopped before or since?
10-01-2007, 12:37 PM
ICB

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?

Hitting Lacy with 1006 punches and not being able to stop him enough said ;)

Calzaghe used to have quite a bit of power in his younger days but not anymore.

Has Lacy ever been stopped before or since?

I don't care how tough you are Fenster if you hit a man with 1006 punches and can't stop him then that says alot about your power Calzaghe used to have power i remember he had 22 wins and 21 KOs going into Eubank fight but he hasn't cracked an egg in ages.
10-01-2007, 12:47 PM
Fenster

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?

Hitting Lacy with 1006 punches and not being able to stop him enough said ;)

Calzaghe used to have quite a bit of power in his younger days but not anymore.

Has Lacy ever been stopped before or since?

I don't care how tough you are Fenster if you hit a man with 1006 punches and can't stop him then that says alot about your power Calzaghe used to have power i remember he had 22 wins and 21 KOs going into Eubank fight but he hasn't cracked an egg in ages.

Calzaghe has never had one-punch stunning power but he's still a heavy hitter. Look at the guys he's been fighting lately.. all have solid chins.
10-01-2007, 01:25 PM
Dark Lord Al

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Calzaghe is not a strong puncher at all.

Can you explain that?

Hitting Lacy with 1006 punches and not being able to stop him enough said ;)

Calzaghe used to have quite a bit of power in his younger days but not anymore.

Has Lacy ever been stopped before or since?

I don't care how tough you are Fenster if you hit a man with 1006 punches and can't stop him then that says alot about your power Calzaghe used to have power i remember he had 22 wins and 21 KOs going into Eubank fight but he hasn't cracked an egg in ages.

i agree ICE it was a totally one sided fight and if Calzaghe still hit hard, Lacy would have been carried out in a body bag
Imagine wot Pavlik would do to lacy :)
10-01-2007, 02:53 PM
southakron314

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by ACEA

Th reason is because Pavlicks defense is poor, JT had a stamina problem so Pavlick was able to back Taylor up and catch him with his powershots. Calzaghi has amazing stamina and good footwork and is quicker than Pavlick so he will get off first. I do agree that he doesnt hit that hard and most of his punches are more like slaps but the simple fact is technically Calzaghi is much better than Pavlick whom is one dimentional and will throw 1-2's with a big right hoping it lands

You are3 just trying to caress Taylors balls. Steward said " I have been training guys since 1961 and I have never scene a better conditioned fighter both mentally and physically as I see in Jermaine".Wait here is the video. Reading this I know you are a complete retard and have no business in this forum. Calzaghe not Calzaghi it Lacy with over 1,000 punches and couldn't finish him. Pavlik landed a fraction of that and look what he did to a guy who went 24 rounds with B-hop. Winky. Spinks,Ouma and other elite. Do you think Joe can beat Bernard.....I don't. Then think of it this way. Pavlik beat the guy who beat Hopkins (one of the best champs at 160 in the history of the sport)twice. Pavlik didn't go the distance he knocked him out. How many times has Taylor been KO'ed
not only that in the middle rounds of the fight. Pavlik is the only one to do that.
10-01-2007, 02:55 PM
southakron314

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Calzaghe rips him into oblivion. Are you serious???

Calzaghe is a better distance fighter then Pavlik, he throws more and hits harder.

How would Pavlik stand a chance against someone who is bigger and stronger with a higher work rate and a better outside game? Pavlik's style is against him in that fight. Nobody is going to beat Calzaghe fighting at a distance unless your name is mikkel kessler.

Calzaghe hits harder than Pavlik????????? Wow. Taylor hits harder than Calzghe. Lacy got hit over 1000 times by Calzaghe. You tyhink LAcy can take over 1000 punches from Pavlik.
10-01-2007, 02:58 PM
southakron314

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GG2LCUn8vY
10-01-2007, 03:33 PM
LEGION

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by southakron314

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GG2LCUn8vY

Must have been fun eating crow after the fight. Wow, I can't believe Manny talking all that sh#t. Must have been to really try to make Kelly nervous.
Anyone going to post the post-fight press conference soon? I'd love to see that.
10-01-2007, 05:01 PM
Gandalf

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

I like Pavlik a lot. He fought a quality fight with Taylor.

But he shouldnt go near Calzaghe anytime soon. Calzaghe is too tough, too smart, too fast. Pavlik is iron willed and has a good punch but that is not enough to beat Calzaghe.
10-01-2007, 05:04 PM
El Gamo

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by miles

I like Pavlik a lot. He fought a quality fight with Taylor.

But he shouldnt go near Calzaghe anytime soon. Calzaghe is too tough, too smart, too fast. Pavlik is iron willed and has a good punch but that is not enough to beat Calzaghe.

My thoughts exactly although I'd like to see how Joe looks v Kessler and how Kell looks at 168. Time knows no bounds and catches up to everyone at some point.
10-01-2007, 05:07 PM
OumaFan

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

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Originally Posted by 1-hit Wonder

Anyone on how Pav can win when his prinmary offensive weapon his RH will be neutralised by JC's southpaw stace ??

???

Most of the time the straight right is the best punch against a southpaw so I'm not sure where you're going with that. Landing the jab could be more of a problem.

And Majesty, Calzaghe's got more power than Pavlik ???

Anyway, that's not to mean I think Pavlik will win, he wouldn't IMO. Calzaghe's just too fast, he's big and strong, good chin, great stamina. Totally different opponent than Taylor.
10-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Pugilistic

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

pavlik could ko calzaghe. calzaghe wouldn't last to the later rounds with pavlik in my opinion and if he gets a bad hand he is badly screwed
10-01-2007, 05:17 PM
Pugilistic

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

oops double post sorry
10-01-2007, 05:17 PM
ACEA

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

1)What does spelling a guys name right have anything to do with knowing about boxing?

2)Do you own this forum?Didn't thinks so there is a certain think called freedom of speech mother f**ker.

3)I never said Calzaghi (i will spell it how the f**k i want) hits hard and he wasn't really hiting Lacy with bombs more like quick flurrys

4)Just because Pavlik beat Taylor doesn't mean he can beat the guys he did. B-hop is a crafty fighter with excenlent defense and Winky is a very good technician with water tight defense and they would give Pavlik all kinds of trouble.

5)Im not a fan of either JT or Pavlik so i aint caressing no balls, JT wasn't exactly in stella form coming in to the fight but he did box well in this fight, Pavlik still has a lot to prove.

6)Manny Steward is full of s**t. Isn't he the same guy who said Prince Naseem was going to be the best fighter in history? Nuff said

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Originally Posted by southakron314

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Originally Posted by ACEA

Th reason is because Pavlicks defense is poor, JT had a stamina problem so Pavlick was able to back Taylor up and catch him with his powershots. Calzaghi has amazing stamina and good footwork and is quicker than Pavlick so he will get off first. I do agree that he doesnt hit that hard and most of his punches are more like slaps but the simple fact is technically Calzaghi is much better than Pavlick whom is one dimentional and will throw 1-2's with a big right hoping it lands

You are3 just trying to caress Taylors balls. Steward said " I have been training guys since 1961 and I have never scene a better conditioned fighter both mentally and physically as I see in Jermaine".Wait here is the video. Reading this I know you are a complete retard and have no business in this forum. Calzaghe not Calzaghi it Lacy with over 1,000 punches and couldn't finish him. Pavlik landed a fraction of that and look what he did to a guy who went 24 rounds with B-hop. Winky. Spinks,Ouma and other elite. Do you think Joe can beat Bernard.....I don't. Then think of it this way. Pavlik beat the guy who beat Hopkins (one of the best champs at 160 in the history of the sport)twice. Pavlik didn't go the distance he knocked him out. How many times has Taylor been KO'ed
not only that in the middle rounds of the fight. Pavlik is the only one to do that.
10-01-2007, 05:32 PM
skel1983

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

Im suprised so many people fanct Joe, i would be very worried much more than i am with the Kessler fight, Calzaghe loves a tear up and has never backed off from one in his whole career, look at the Lacy fight it took Joe about 1 minute in the fight before he stood there in front of Lacy and was basically saying im up for a scrap matey.

If he did this with Pavlik i think its lights out for Joe. Calzaghe will be nearly 36( well probably will be 36 if the fight is ever made) So he isnt as young as you would like. Pavlik will come all night long and Calzaghe hasnt the power to keep Pavlik off no way.

If Joe boxes clever which he is capable off he wins, but if he gets into a similar situation like he did with Byron Mitchell where is was just a bomb fest!!! I got to say a younger more powerful guy like Pavlik who basically looks like he dont give a fuck who is in the other corner he will just keep coming, will knock him out.
10-02-2007, 02:03 AM
sexydarin

Re: Pavlick v Calzaghe - who wins?

Is 2007 like a banner year for boxing?!? Maybe we'll see even better in 2008.

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