Re: If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Kel
I remember when Barrera beat Naz, that depth of focus is exactly what is required for this fight. If Barrera can fight his own fight and not get into a war he might just pull this off.
very true. Barrera should fight using his style and not engage in too much brawl with Pacquaio. He should know this. He already felt how fast and strong pacquaio is.
Anyway, I'm predicting an early knock out on this fight. O0
An early knockout?! You really are the forum clown. ::**
Face it, Pac is in for the fight and fright of his life! ;)
Re: If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by Kel
I remember when Barrera beat Naz, that depth of focus is exactly what is required for this fight. If Barrera can fight his own fight and not get into a war he might just pull this off.
very true. Barrera should fight using his style and not engage in too much brawl with Pacquaio. He should know this. He already felt how fast and strong pacquaio is.
Anyway, I'm predicting an early knock out on this fight. O0
An early knockout?! You really are the forum clown. ::**
Face it, Pac is in for the fight and fright of his life! ;)
clown you say miles? face it. the common prediction we have here is Barrera wins by UD if it goes the distance and Pacquaio wins by KO early, say until 6 rounds. careful mate.
Re: If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......
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Originally Posted by zhubin
If Barrera can box well and not sustain damage in the first six rounds...he will be in great position to pull the upset. Pac will try and pressure and hurt him from the onset of the fight. Marco has to use all his skill and smarts to really maintain his energy for the latter part of the fight. If this fight is close after 6 or 7...i gotta go with the fighter with the better skill, smarts, and ability to adapt. Manny, for all of his supposed improvements, still fights primarily one way....coming forward to knock his opponent out. If he cannot put Barrera away early...i think he will get frustrated and not be able to adapt his fighting style. On the flip side...Marco's stamina will be the big question. He showed in the Marquez fight that he is still razor sharp and plenty fast (and strong) on his punches. It's his stamina against a pressure fighter that will be the big test. Can he deal with the pressure early and have enough left in the tank for the second part of the fight? Should be a great fight between two great warriors. If Marco can pull of this upset...he is without a doubt in my opinion one of the top three Mexican fighters in the history of the sport.
i would have to disagree with you on this one. the same thing happend in pac-morales II where pac was having a hard time with morales from round 1 to 5. but then he adjusted and adapted to the fight. i thought that after round 5 he will get frustrated. but he slowly adjusted and eventually knocked morales out. and dont say that morales was shot when they fought. you can never count anybody out until the fight is over. anything can happen. and pls, dont think that pac is that one dimensional even though he only fights going forward. and guess what, none of the fighters he fought was able to make him back up. it will be a good fight.. so just hang on and we will see what happens.
Re: If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......
This is a tall order but boxing and moving side to side will frustrate the Pac man and there is one more thing that is difficult to use on a lefty and that is a jab. Patience and a jab and Pac won't see the right but he is strong but he tends to be erratic. I don't expect MAB to knock him out but a hard decision will do it for me. If MAB pulls it off and that is the hard part, it's back to Marquez and if MAB still has his marbles after that then retire because it will be over. This all depends on whther MAB has any youth left in his system. No matter what I am still a fan
Re: If Barrera can pull off a great upset next weekend......
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by zhubin
If Barrera can box well and not sustain damage in the first six rounds...he will be in great position to pull the upset. Pac will try and pressure and hurt him from the onset of the fight. Marco has to use all his skill and smarts to really maintain his energy for the latter part of the fight. If this fight is close after 6 or 7...i gotta go with the fighter with the better skill, smarts, and ability to adapt. Manny, for all of his supposed improvements, still fights primarily one way....coming forward to knock his opponent out. If he cannot put Barrera away early...i think he will get frustrated and not be able to adapt his fighting style. On the flip side...Marco's stamina will be the big question. He showed in the Marquez fight that he is still razor sharp and plenty fast (and strong) on his punches. It's his stamina against a pressure fighter that will be the big test. Can he deal with the pressure early and have enough left in the tank for the second part of the fight? Should be a great fight between two great warriors. If Marco can pull of this upset...he is without a doubt in my opinion one of the top three Mexican fighters in the history of the sport.
i would have to disagree with you on this one. the same thing happend in pac-morales II where pac was having a hard time with morales from round 1 to 5. but then he adjusted and adapted to the fight. i thought that after round 5 he will get frustrated. but he slowly adjusted and eventually knocked morales out. and dont say that morales was shot when they fought. you can never count anybody out until the fight is over. anything can happen. and pls, dont think that pac is that one dimensional even though he only fights going forward. and guess what, none of the fighters he fought was able to make him back up. it will be a good fight.. so just hang on and we will see what happens.
Josef, with all due respect...the reason why Morales lost the second and third fight was not because Pac adjusted...it was because Erik was a shot fighter by then. I don't say that to discount Pac in anyway. But Morales was almost done by the second fight and he was completely a shell of himself by the third fight. He simply had nothing left in the tank by that point (making weight, countelss wars, etc.). I will give Pac credit for finishing him off...but he simply beat a fighter who physically could no longer compete. I do think Pac is one dimensional...granted it's a hella of a dimension. He loves to lunge/jump in with flurries. His balance when he does this is shaky, but he gets away with it because of his speed. Eric backed him up plenty of times in their first fight and JMM did as well once he recovered from the early knockdowns. Pac depends tremendously on his athleticism and pressure. He is not a fighter who can change up his style though. I agree with you that it will be a very good fight. Marco is deservedly the underdog and he will have to have one of the best fights of his career to have a chance. If Manny can repeat his performance from their first fight...my hats off to him. But Barrera is such an intelligent and highly skilled fighter that i would never bet against him.