I'm not bias against anything or anyone, look at the tyson/lewis fight, it would be a exact replica of that. Klitchsco wins, 6'8 vs 5'11.
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I'm not bias against anything or anyone, look at the tyson/lewis fight, it would be a exact replica of that. Klitchsco wins, 6'8 vs 5'11.
Vitali would would absolutely hammer tyson. Tyson is done and finished. Im not even sure if tyson in the 80s would beat klitschko.
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Originally Posted by Snakey
WTF did you just say?! There is doubt in your mind that prime tyson would not have been able to beat Vitali?! ;D ;D ;D Oh my fookin god, that is rich, that is a good one man. Prime Tyson would have Ko'd Vitali in no more than 4 rounds tops. Probably more like 2. Or 1. If you truly rate Vitali as a greater Champ than Prime Iron Mike, then leave, leave this forum and never return! ;) ;D
Hulk, yet again, people have different opinions. You dont have to insult them or tell them to leave just because you disagree.
Prime Mike Tyson.... Prime Ali, Prime Lewis, Prime Joe Louis, prime who ever you want. i get so tried of hearing these prime statements. Actually I look at as successful careers and how they go out. Look at lennox lewis the best champion of this era a gentleman and went out as the Champion. Yes I think prime lewis would have walked on prime tysons ass like he did anyway... Not sure if vitali is even at he prime yet so he could turn out be to a all time great also... who knows....
Yea I agree, people need to let go of the past and use less of the "prime". Look at "now".
If you noticed, it was sarcasim and a joke, fool. Me and lyle get along on all other threads but Klit bro ones. In fact him and I agree about RJJ tremendously. So butt out and stop trying to turn everyone on this frikin forum against me dude. Damn...Quote:
Originally Posted by SevennDeuce
Im definately not trying to get anyone against you, I was just pointing out the way you speak to people. So when you as why or try to critisize, you know what I would be talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Was this one a joke too? Just relax, we been doin fine lately.
First of all, Which Klitschko are we talking about
Second of all, as much as i hate to say it Tyson is cooked.
Watching his early years is a treat to any fan of the sweet science but as he ages, so does his abilities. In his prime, Tyson was not only the best, but the funnest to watch. Now he can't even survive for more than half a fight against a big ol' irish boy (Kevin McBride is a decent fighter, but i would never place him amoung the top).
Vitali Klitschko is a machine. Hopefully we will see him fight agian soon. However, a Tyson/Klitschko fight would be an insult to him. This monster Ukranian is a man who i'd put my money on to unify the titles, or at least try.
Vitali is fighting winner of Rahman-Barrett on Sept. 24th (as on Boxrec)! Cant wait for that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsolomon
What if Barrett wins? That would be kind of funny actually. You know I respect Barrett more than Rahman cause he gets more out of his abilities than the underachieving Rahman does. Still I hope Rahman wins cause a Vit-Rahman fight is more exciting because of Hassim's big right hand. Barrett IMO just doesn't have the physical abilities to beat Vit. By the way are you and Hulk starting to talk to each other respectfully? What the hell is the world coming too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SevennDeuce
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
As i recall, wasn't Vitali scheduled to fight Rahman a while back? Whos this Barrett guy?
He was, but Rahman decided to take the Barrett fight before fighting Vitali on the 24th.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsolomon
Rahman is confident he will defeat Barrett, but the winner of the Rahman-Barrett fights Vitali on the 24th.
i agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by DD
it would be the biggest mistake of Tysons life
He's wrecking a great record
He's retired now and that should be it
But if they were both in there prime
Then Tyson would KO Klitchko Early
In him prime Tyson kos either brother. Now days Tyson gets battered by both of em.
not going to happen....Klitchko has nothing to gain from this.....Quote:
Originally Posted by midastongue
Prime Tyson would KO the Klitchsco Brothers. Now he would be kissing canvas.
Yeah ......... don't get him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
he talks alot when angry, we don't want or need that
wud never happen. Tyson is a legend, my fav fighter in his day, tho klitschco wud win. Tyson is finished as shown in the mcBride fight. Tyson back in the day wud knock him out
tyson would easily by ko
That's not very nice, that implies that all British people are sissies, and our history (nor current affairs) supports that point? ???Quote:
Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
Tyson would always have a punchers chance against Vitali....and with Vitali's more than suspect chin it might be a bigger chance than a lot of people expect. I think Vitali is heads and shoulders above Tyson at this point in their career's...but that being said...Vitali has lost to "inferior" opposition in the past. would be fun while it lasted though!
My friend you are seriously deranged if you think Tyson was overated...I'm not even a Tyson fan but will say on the record that NO fighter was feared more in his prime than Mike Tyson...Quote:
Originally Posted by VanChilds
what about george foreman and sonny liston ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry0774
Yeah. I hate to burst the bubble for Tyson fans because I am a big fan myself, but he is done. He failed miserably against Danny Williams and Kevin McBride of all people. You would have to be crazy to think that he could beat either Klitschko at this point. Maybe he could get lucky with one punch against the Wladimir guy because he has a chin made of break away glass, but really with Manny Steward as his trainer, Wladimir Klitschko probably would be too good defensively to allow Mike to get that close to him. He would stand behind his jab for four or five rounds till Mike was gaspin for air and barely hangin on, then end it. Or Tyson would end it first by quitting. Vitali would do the same thing only worse. Too much reach and youth in the Klitschko's corner, too many years and wear and tear in the Tyson corner. Dont get me wrong, in his prime, Mike would have fought both of these guys on the same card and then went home for a nice big bowl of ears and children for dinner. But that was then and this is now. Getting old is a bitch.
Yeah thats what it comes down to... in his prime he'd stomp them no problem now not so much.
I think even a prime Tyson would have trouble with Vitali....a prime ANYONE would have trouble with him.
Wlad is a different story, it depends on which one shows up...the one who lost to Sanders or the one who beat Sam Peter....but Tyson would have to be in his PRIME to beat him
i remember watching tyson beat a guy that was 6'6 from one side of the ring to the other. Vitali's feint jabbing only works against someone who's not good on the inside and tyson was easily in the top 3 of inside fighters if not the best. I would love to see Quitshko or Clinchko try to beat a guy when their feint jabbing doesn't intimidate him at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Lol. I dont know about that. Vitali isnt THAT good. A prime ali would not have much trouble with him nor would a prime foreman, holmes, lennox lewis, tyson, or riddick bowe.
Yeah....you guys know how many times Vitali has been knocked down in his career?
0
Less than Ali, less than Foreman, less than Lewis, less than Bowe
Vitali is 6'8, no one Tyson ever fought had the size or power of Vitali much less the STYLE which everyone calls "awkward"...there has never been a fighter who took Vitali easily...and I doubt there would ever be one that did.
Vitali didn't intimidate people with his jab dipshit, he did it with his right cross which is why his KO ratio is better than pretty much anyone's....EVER......IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING.
Everyone thinks a Prime Tyson takes everyone up to Ali....and maybe even Ali. And everyone who thinks that is wrong....he wouldn't beat Foreman, wouldn't beat Frazier, wouldn't beat Liston, wouldn't beat Lewis, wouldn't beat Joe Louis, wouldn't even beat Marciano.
Just for shits and giggles who was the 6'6 guy Mike Tyson beat around the ring? I'm sure he was REALLY good :beat: ......Once Tyson stepped it up he got whupped....actually even before that he got it handed to him by Buster mother fucking Douglas!!!
Quitschko....Clinchko......oh my god you are sooooo original that's awesome, you should invent stuff.
His feint jabbing kept people on the outside. Buster douglas should have been counted out when he was knocked down because the ref clearly gave him an 11 count. If he was 6'0 instead of 6'8 he would've got his ass handed to him by alot of people. A for his ko ratio.... One of his losses is to CHRIS BYRD!!! because he THREW IN THE TOWEL with a shoulder injury. He had 3 rounds to go clearly winning on score cards and he quit against someone who obviously couldn't hurt him that much. If you're gonna be a nut-hugger atleast pick a fighter that has some nuts in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Something tells me Punisher wouldn't know the first thing about fighting in the ring, much less fighting hurt :P
If you get hurt you fight thru it, ESPECIALLY against chris byrd. Curiously enough it was his left shoulder that was injured. Now why would he quit if his sole dominance of the ring is based on his right cross? ::** .
Seeing as how we have no earthly clue how much pain he was dealing with, it's kind of hard for us to say - unless you're a know it all of course! ;D
Punisher136 was clearly in a Vulcan mend meld with him. It is approaching the time of P'on Far.
So you're saying if a boxer's in pain its ok for him to quit a fight he clearly has won and you'll still support him no matter what?