porkypara's If Calzaghe & Hopkins were to fight in the future who'd win poll?

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Well blunt where i comes from means being blunt with your words or when your arguing being blunt with words making strong argument like i was doing i am always like that when im debating plus me and Fenster sorted this out so there was no reason for you to bring it up again.

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"I am blunt." --ICB

Sorry I must have misunderstood the original text.

Messageboard posts are not livefeeds. They are left hanging in the air for everyone to see when they arrive on the scene. People are free to respond to the posts individually or as a whole. There was no "clean slate" when I arrived everything you both said was still on display.

The truth is simple. Had it not been Fenster you tried to discredit with venomous words I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I just happen to like that guy.

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This was posted by Fenster.


Calzaghe by easy KO.

We know Calzaghe fights well away from Britain - two visits, two KO victories without losing a single round.

We know Hopkins has struggled away from America - two visits, one PTS win and a draw after getting off the floor a couple of times.

So, clearly if the fight was in Britain Calzaghe would have the edge, and likewise in America as he's a proven good traveller.

Now at first i didn't know he was joking so thats why i come out with my comment about lack of knowledge.
Then he typed this.

Ice, you seriously need to get a sense of humour, son. It's called a joke. A wind-up.

Then i come back and said.

Problem is i can't tell when your joking when im talking about boxing i don't like joking about theres time and place for it but im different to you but there you go.

Then Fenster said.

Fair enough, Ice.

He realized i didn't know at first so he said fair enough and we left it at that its sorted done and dusted time to move on it was just a heat of the moment thing BG thats all i don't dislike Fenster at all.

LOL

Thanks for the refresher course.

So when you thought Fenster was "serious" about Calzaghe handing Hopkins a KO you were going to win the "debate" by saying/telling him that he knows nothing of our beloved sport.

Once you discovered he was "joking" you reconsidered and decided that he may know something about boxing.

Whatever, man.

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

LOL

Thanks for the refresher course.

So when you thought Fenster was "serious" about Calzaghe handing Hopkins a KO you were going to win the "debate" by saying/telling him that he knows nothing of our beloved sport.

Once you discovered he was "joking" you reconsidered and decided that he may know something about boxing.

Whatever, man.

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I wasn't trying to win any debate BG i come out with the comment because i thought what Fenster said was absurd like i said it was a heat of the moment thing then when he said he was joking then i come out and said i don't know when you are joking and he said fair enough if my comment offended him he can always PM me he knows that but we sorted it i don't know why you are bringing it up again like i said it was heat of the moment thing we have all done it in the past Fenster realizes this and we left it at that simple as.

I say things i don't mean in the heat of the moment BG and this was the case when i said that to Fenster like i said if he found it offensive he can PM me.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hopkins mugs Calzaghe the way he mugged William Joppy.

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i agree even at 40ish Hopkins is a light year ahead of JOKE CALZAGHE

Man Dark what is it with you hating on Calzaghe i like Hopkins and all but i doubt he will win at this stage of his career

Hopkins cant keep that pace at his age. Calzaghe would win a UD with some problems all the way but Joe would make him look his age.

One more thing dark you hate on Cal for the people he has fought but who else was their for him to fight i mean Hopkins best wins are against Oscar who started out at featherweight and Tito who was a welterweight and i think Cal could beat both of them if they moved up to his weight division

And no i am not bagging on Hopkins but my god people bag on Cal like there is no tommorow

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Originally Posted by Mr140

One more thing dark you hate on Cal for the people he has fought but who else was their for him to fight i mean Hopkins best wins are against Oscar who started out at featherweight and Tito who was a welterweight and i think Cal could beat both of them if they moved up to his weight division

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Oscar was never a Featherweight in his life. Such ignorant comments are fucking annoying.

Sorry i forgot super featherweight my bad i am sorry such a big difference

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Well blunt where i comes from means being blunt with your words or when your arguing being blunt with words making strong argument like i was doing i am always like that when im debating plus me and Fenster sorted this out so there was no reason for you to bring it up again.

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"I am blunt." --ICB

Sorry I must have misunderstood the original text.

Messageboard posts are not livefeeds. They are left hanging in the air for everyone to see when they arrive on the scene. People are free to respond to the posts individually or as a whole. There was no "clean slate" when I arrived everything you both said was still on display.

The truth is simple. Had it not been Fenster you tried to discredit with venomous words I wouldn't have given it a second thought. I just happen to like that guy.

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Fuck Fenster. Come on BG, where you at?

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Sorry i forgot super featherweight my bad i am sorry such a big difference

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Junior Lightweight sounds better

Ok then Violent his best wins are over a welterweight and a super featherweight happy

Ok i will call it a junior lightweight happy i not trying to be jerk but i think Hopkins was great but his oppisition was not that great either

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Ok i will call it a junior lightweight happy i not trying to be jerk but i think Hopkins was great but his oppisition was not that great either

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Hopkins best opponents (Felix Trinidad, Oscar Del La Hoya, Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Antwan Echols and William Joppy) all easily beat Calzaghe's best opponents (Jeff Lacy, Robin Ried, Chris Eubanks, Charles Brewer, Bryon Mitchell and Omar Shieka).

Yea but would you pick his Hopkins opposition to beat Cal i would not and the same goes for Cal opposition so it can go either way but i think Hopkins is to old and Cal is still young enough to make Hopkins look old in my opinion but that is just my thoughts

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Ok i will call it a junior lightweight happy i not trying to be jerk but i think Hopkins was great but his oppisition was not that great either

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Hopkins best opponents (Felix Trinidad, Oscar Del La Hoya, Antonio Tarver, Winky Wright, Antwan Echols and William Joppy) all easily beat Calzaghe's best opponents (Jeff Lacy, Robin Ried, Chris Eubanks, Charles Brewer, Bryon Mitchell and Omar Shieka).

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Don't forget Keith Holmes VD who beat up Richie Woodhall.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Yea but would you pick his Hopkins opposition to beat Cal i would not and the same goes for Cal opposition so it can go either way but i think Hopkins is to old and Cal is still young enough to make Hopkins look old in my opinion but that is just my thoughts

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I would pick Trinidad, Joppy, Tarver, Wright and Echols at the time Hopkins fought them (not now) to beat Calzaghe.

Wow ok well i big time disagree with you their i think Trindad would get weaker if he moved up even more weight Joppy and Echols were nothing special in they lose my view Taver besides beating a old Jones is a joke he loses and Winky is closes but i give the nod for Cal to win by a few rounds

F*** Fenster. Come on BG, where you at? --Violent D

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Violent D, I already know what it means when you say you're "blunted."

;D It's OK BoxingGorrila it was all just a joke. CC though, man.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Yea but would you pick his Hopkins opposition to beat Cal i would not and the same goes for Cal opposition so it can go either way but i think Hopkins is to old and Cal is still young enough to make Hopkins look old in my opinion but that is just my thoughts

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I would pick Trinidad, Joppy, Tarver, Wright and Echols at the time Hopkins fought them (not now) to beat Calzaghe.

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;D

You should of added Oscar it would of been twice as funny.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

;D It's OK BoxingGorrila it was all just a joke. CC though, man.

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Fenster and Boxing Gorilla watching each other's back. Memphis is going insane with jealousy.

I dont see it happening for at least close to a year though.Kessler fight,Then rematch??These days theres always a rematch it seems.
If It happens shortly,I like Hopkins..what a shock.Hand speed and Pressure Boxing are Cals pluses but I dont think He could come close to hurting Hopkins.
Heres a cliche by now but "If Hopkins dosent get old overnight"....It seems like I have been saying that for a solid 10 yrs now lol.I think Hopkins can pick his spots and as he dose nearly everyone ,cause cal to ask HIMSELF questions and instill doubts.I dont know,dont think its going to happen really but Imo,Hopkins w.12 or even corner "no mas" 10 or 11.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

;D It's OK BoxingGorrila it was all just a joke. CC though, man.

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Fenster and Boxing Gorilla watching each other's back. Memphis is going insane with jealousy.

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I'll be jealous when they start soaping one anothers backs like you and young ICE ;D

I know, I know.......you thought you were still in prison ::**

i voted hopkins hard-fought decision

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

;D It's OK BoxingGorrila it was all just a joke. CC though, man.

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Fenster and Boxing Gorilla watching each other's back. Memphis is going insane with jealousy.

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I'll be jealous when they start soaping one anothers backs like you and young ICE ;D

I know, I know.......you thought you were still in prison ::**

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Why are you bringing me into it ??

Easy for win for Joe. Nards legs have lost a touch or 2.