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Saw documentary about the Cuban conspiracy yesterday which I believe just re-told the myths that Castro was involved. I believe the Oliver Stone version that LH Oswald was not involved and it was a right wing and CIA/FBI (do not know the difference but one of them) arranged it. He was definitely shot by more than one person he received a shot through the throat, and another from the side that blew his head off. What do people think?
Check out this site mate.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/electroni...free/4/jfk.htm
No one will ever know the truth.
We'll never know the truth...I agree there...but there's no way in hell anyone can convince me that one man could get off the volley of shots & accuracey that Oswald supposedly did from that distance & with a bolt action rifle.
They had snipers debunk that one about 10 or 12 years ago.
They surely debunked the thoery that an American sniper could have managed it, unless they could argue he was aiming for somebody else. :D
But a professionally trained SAS soldier from the British Isles could pull off that shot. 8)
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Lane uppercut he definitely was shot by more than one person. You can see the side of his head getting blown off. Did not know about the first assasination attempt by LHO but why did it fail and why was he not caught, and why did Ruby shoot him?
3 shots fire from the book depository. 1st totally missed, the second hit him in the neck, and the 3rd blew his head off. All from behind. His head comes apart from the bullent making a messy exhit hole.
Oswald took a shot at General Walker, while Walker was in his house. Totatally missed, and they had no clues so no one knew it was him. Also dont forget- after Oswald killed kennedy, the a police bulliten went out with his description, as soon as officer J.D. Tippet tried to stop and question Oswald; Oswald killed him, then ran and hid in the movie theater.
Lastly- the rifle was good a good rifle(a carcano- the civilian equvilaent to the Army's M1) And oswald had a Scope. It's been proven many times(most notably by 60 minutes) that even a not so good shot can hit 2 of the 3 shots in the ten seconds it took Oswald.
As for Jack Ruby- he was very similar to Oswald- a loner who thought he never got what he deserved out of life. He thought he would become a hero. He was wrong.
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ALso
Oliver Stone has admitted that much of his movie JFK was fiction. Like- MR. X was a character that he created. If you watch the movie its the Mr. X character(played by Ed Harris) who make all the most crazy allegations up.
Tom Hanks is coming out with an HBO mini-series dedicated to busting all the JFK myths.
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Call me crazy but the fact that LHO missed the Texan politician could mean he is not a good shot in the first place, in his first assassination attempt.
Kennedy's head being blown off was defiantly a shot from the side
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Call me crazy but the fact that LHO missed the Texan politician could mean he is not a good shot in the first place, in his first assassination attempt.
Kennedy's head being blown off was defiantly a shot from the side
They have the killing on VIDEO- you can see that he is shot from the back. Just because his had flaps open does not mean he was shot in the side. In fact I dont even think that his is a real arguement even for the crazy conspiracy people. They like to beleive that he was shot from the front.
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As a side note, how big of an oyster do you think Jaclyn Kennedy laid in her undies when JFK's head transformed into a loose-meat sandwich?
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This is a video that shows apparent confusion and security lapses among the secret service detail assigned to guard the president that day in Dallas. Suspicious? Relevant?
[youtube=425,350]XY02Qkuc_f8[/youtube]
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Ex-flame says Jack Ruby ‘had no choice’ but to kill Oswald
https://jfkfacts.org/ex-flame-says-j...o-kill-oswald/
Ruby never mentioned President Kennedy, Raven said. “He was not in love with the Kennedys and he did NOT like Robert Kennedy by no means,” she says.
This is not surprising, according to journalists and historians who have studied Ruby’s life. Phone records reviewed by JFK investigators showed that in 1962-63 Ruby made phone calls to no less than seven organized crime figures who had been prosecuted by Attorney General Bobby Kennedy’s Justice Department.
“He had no choice,” Raven said. When I asked her to explain why he “had no choice,” she replied only, “Jack had bosses, just like everyone else.”
Raven says she believes “he was instructed on what he needed to do, therefore he did it. And when the opportunity presented itself he went ahead and took it.”
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Interesting facts:
1. The police captain JW Fritz kept no notes or tape recordings after he interrogated Oswald for several hours on the day after JFK was shot. Fritz may have taken notes, but if so they were destroyed. This is highly unusual and goes against procedure.
2. Ruby had to have perfect timing to be in a position to shoot Oswald, the media said he was to be moved at 10:00 AM that Sunday morning but somehow Ruby knew it would be at 11:20. Did police captain JW Fritz tell Ruby? A video of the killing of Oswald shows Fritz stopping and looking the other way as he pulled Oswald into the perfect position where Ruby could shoot him.
3. Although the so-called "magic bullet" that hit Connally and the bullet that missed could have been fired from Oswald's cheap $19.95 Italian-made rifle, the exploding bullet that killed JFK was NOT of a type that could have been shot from Oswald's rifle.
JFK Assassination Bullet Fragment Analysis Proves Second Shooter
http://www.garyrevel.com/News/press_release_11.html
"A nation that is afraid to debate it's issues in a public forum, is a nation that is afraid of it's people." - JFK
"President Kennedy’s assassination was the work of magicians. It was a stage trick, complete with accessories and false mirrors, and when the curtain fell the actors, and even the scenery, disappeared. But the magicians were not illusionists but professionals, artists in their way." - French intelligence officer Herve Lemarr
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Oswald was in the US military and a qualified shooter. . The shots he took have been duplicated. It’s not that it couldn’t have happened but there is a lot of strange shit to look into. How does a medical facility loose a presidents brain.
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'They' killed him.
He was about to reveal some pretty big secrets in my opinion and 'they' couldn't that happen, so 'they' silenced him.
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'They' killed him.
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He was about to reveal some pretty big secrets in my opinion and 'they' couldn't that happen, so 'they' silenced him.
If you mean Oswald, I agree. He was just a patsy but he had to be silenced. Oswald was carefully chosen for his role, 'they' knew he'd be an ideal patsy because of his Marxist past and because he was somewhat neurotic.
I think JFK and his brother Robert's war on organized crime probably had something to do with the assassination. High-level criminals were very angry at the Kennedy brothers. And Jack Rubenstein's bosses ran organized crime in America, at a much higher level than the Italian mafia.
Ruby was expendable, 'they' probably placed little value on him because he was so much of a loser so he wasn't a big sacrifice. Ruby's father had been an alcoholic and his mother had been mentally ill. Ruby was probably deep in debt due to his business failures.
Interesting that Ruby had friends in the Dallas police force, despite being such a sleazy scumbag. Obviously some of the Dallas police such as JW Fritz were dishonest.
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I was meaning JFK but yea Oswald as well.
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I watched a "recent" documentary and they suggest that Oswald did fire the bullets but the fatal shot was done by accident from one of the bodyguards behind the president. They wanted to hide that fact due to embarassment and hid the brain and covered the whole thing up.
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I watched a "recent" documentary and they suggest that Oswald did fire the bullets but the fatal shot was done by accident from one of the bodyguards behind the president. They wanted to hide that fact due to embarassment and hid the brain and covered the whole thing up.
Well, the shot couldn't have come from Oswald's cheap rifle, because it couldn't fire exploding bullets.
http://www.garyrevel.com/News/press_release_11.html
But was it an accident?
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I watched a "recent" documentary and they suggest that Oswald did fire the bullets but the fatal shot was done by accident from one of the bodyguards behind the president. They wanted to hide that fact due to embarassment and hid the brain and covered the whole thing up.
Well, the shot couldn't have come from Oswald's cheap rifle, because it couldn't fire exploding bullets.
http://www.garyrevel.com/News/press_release_11.html
But was it an accident?
I know it seems highly unlikely but at the same time it could explain why they would want to cover it up.
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I watched a "recent" documentary and they suggest that Oswald did fire the bullets but the fatal shot was done by accident from one of the bodyguards behind the president. They wanted to hide that fact due to embarassment and hid the brain and covered the whole thing up.
Well, the shot couldn't have come from Oswald's cheap rifle, because it couldn't fire exploding bullets.
http://www.garyrevel.com/News/press_release_11.html
But was it an accident?
Heads explode when they are shot. No matter what questions are asked it has been proven those shots could be made from that rifle at the same distance in a moving car. It’s been many times. I’m not saying it happened that way but that by itself can not rule out the possibility. Oswald had sketchy contacts and not just with the USSR
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Heads explode when they are shot. No matter what questions are asked it has been proven those shots could be made from that rifle at the same distance in a moving car. It’s been many times. I’m not saying it happened that way but that by itself can not rule out the possibility. Oswald had sketchy contacts and not just with the USSR
Not just JFK's head, the actual bullet exploded.
The type of bullets for the cartridges left where Oswald allegedly shot from do not explode. Oswald's cheap rifle does not fire exploding bullets.
The so-called "magic bullet" was a type that could have been fired from Oswald's rifle though. It bounced around and never exploded.
Oswald probably did try to shoot JFK, but there was a second gunman who fired the fatal shot.
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Heads explode when they are shot. No matter what questions are asked it has been proven those shots could be made from that rifle at the same distance in a moving car. It’s been many times. I’m not saying it happened that way but that by itself can not rule out the possibility. Oswald had sketchy contacts and not just with the USSR
Not just JFK's head, the actual bullet exploded.
The type of bullets for the cartridges left where Oswald allegedly shot from do not explode. Oswald's cheap rifle does not fire exploding bullets.
The so-called "magic bullet" was a type that could have been fired from Oswald's rifle though. It bounced around and never exploded.
Oswald probably did try to shoot JFK, but there was a second gunman who fired the fatal shot.
Freedom, who says the bullet exploded? Do you mean it fragmented when it entered the body? That is a common design
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Freedom, who says the bullet exploded? Do you mean it fragmented when it entered the body? That is a common design
I don't know if it's common or not or if it was common in 1963.
But I do know Oswald's cheap Italian-made rifle was not able to fire exploding bullets. The empty cartridges found by the rifle were NOT for exploding bullets.
However, the so-called "magic bullet" was consistent with the cartridges and old Carcano rifle. It did NOT explode when it hit Kennedy and Connelly. But the fatal bullet did fragment when it hit JFK's head.
NRA member:
"I bought a 1938 Italian Carcano 6.5 x 52 rifle last year, the same one Lee Harvey Oswald is said to have killed JFK with – and finally had a chance to test it out today.
"At 150 feet, standing, using gun sights it made about an 18 inch spread. By contrast, my 1936 Mosin 7.62 x 54R made about a two to three inch spread – fired the same way.
If all Carcano’s are like that, they are completely useless as a sniper rifle. It is the most inconsistent rifle I have ever fired."
More details on the Carcano rifle: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/to...icher-carcano/
