Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Pacquiao fought with a broken hand? First I've heard of that but it amazes me that there are so many excuses. Wasn't he wearing the wrong socks>? Wasn't his foot swollen? I'm sorry,sore was it? Despite Manny managing to RUN back to his corner after the third round.
He's beaten MAB twice,but you're saying Frozen is living in the past(gosh I can't believe I'm defending this guy!) but didn't Pac beat MAB the first time "in the past". I thought JMM,a natural counter puncher turned agressive fighter for the MAB fight looked much better than Manny did the second time v MAB. Also,anyone who saw the John fight,and I know few did,know it was a hometown decision although Maquez was an ass to go there in the first place!
The only thing I will agree with you is that Manny has improved and JMM has taken more punches,so I'd make Manny a slight favourite for sure. The rest of your points were'nt legitimate though,you're slipping Maj!
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hehehe. we are all caught in frozen's web. can't believe we are fighting over this thread.
beware of frozen's sly tactics. ;D
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
1. The next 11 rounds Pacquiao fought with a broken left hand which was basically his whole offense at that time
2. Marquez hasn't gotten better basically the same and a little less and was beaten by chris john who should be somewhere in the mix
3. Pacquiao has improved 10 times the amount since that match and implemented counter punching, a jab and a right hook to his game.
4. He's beaten Barerra twice and in easier fashions then Marquez struggled with him to do.
5. JMM isn't improving with every fight and gets hit a lot more then he used to.
6. Pacquiao has improved so much it would be a different kind of matchup and fight for that instance.
7. Pacquiao by late TKO
8. Why are you still living 3 years into the past with that fight as if neither got better or worse?
Been out with some ol' computer problems... Actually it was his feet that went bad, really bad. I know many guys here will scoff off at that but you see, that's only because they haven't seen the photo or vid of his feet taken right after the fight, or more likely, don't even care or want to see them anyway. That's why I've been asking anyone who has that photo or vid that was shown on the local tv right after the fight there from the ringside, to share it here. At least, nobody will be able to deny that pac's feet were in terrible condition if they'd seen the vid, even though they may still doggedly and futilely ;D argue that it had nothing to do with his 'loss' and, of course, I won't be foolish enough to waste my time trying to convince any of you 'it was so.' He did also have badly swollen hands but I don't think that's an issue cuz boxers can still bang their opponents with swollen fists; but a swollen feet will badly affect his movement and speed. All right, just for the sake of argument, let's say a boxer has feet swollen into double their usual size (I'm exagerrating here though) - can anyone honestly say that it won't affect his performance? Just watch round 2 of the fight, JMM hadn't still fully recovered and there wasn't much counterpunching to talk about in that round either. It was pac who stopped cold, he started to wander around in circles as if he had a problem, and everyone who knows pac well enough knows that's not the usual pac cuz he'd normally go on charging in relentlessly when he smells blood, taking few shots in along the way. Go ahead, take a look again. Of course I can't prove that 100% but I think pac will prove that himself in the rematch, as he usually does. But I have a nasty feeling the Marquez might price himself out of the fight again. I hope I'm wrong on this one though... Adios for now! I'll be back.
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i have the video penalosa fan. just bought it last month upon remembering your appeal. yes, I've already told some people about it.
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JMM beats Pac. Wait and see.
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO......................... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Pavlik
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
As much as Pac's team (emphasis on team, because Pac fears nobody) doesn't want to, he now has to fight his daddy............. Juan Manuel Marquez.
http://boxingtalk.com/pag/article13838.html
It only took Marquez one round (although it was a horrible one for JMM) to figure Pac out. Then the tables turned...................
JMM by a UD.
What do you mean nowhere to run? PAC is not avoiding JMM. I'd say PAC by a UD.
I guess you missed the last 11 rounds of their first fight ;)
And you must have not seen Pacquaio's last 3 or 4 fights.
And you must have not seen the last 3 or 4 fights of each of Pac's opponents. Simply put very bad !!! A great holidays recipe for Nuthuggers Delight.......
Re: MANNY PACQUIAO..... NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by brucelee
i have the video penalosa fan. just bought it last month upon remembering your appeal. yes, I've already told some people about it.
Thanx pare, k'musta na? I'm not sure about the commercial version but did your vid include post-fight interview of pacman there at the ringside where he showed his badly sored feet and swollen hands which they showed right after the actual fight on the local television??? If there is one, can you edit the part of the vid where they show his feet and hands, and post it on the youtube, and post the link here, or if you think it deserves a new thread, start a new one and post it there? Try to choose the best part of the vid (showing the worst part of the 'injury') so others can see his real condition during the fight. Let them see for themselves and decide, although I have no illusion of being able to convince the usual guys here who are beyond persuasion when it comes to pac - you know for them pac can do no right, and you know who they are - but still there are many more 'reasonable' guys out here who can see the facts and sort of balance them out to come up with a more reasonable judgement - that vid will be for them. I must say though that I'm not trying to completely take the credit out of Marquez as he is a superb fighter no doubt, but what I'm trying to point out is that the real score of the fight was 'somewhere between 'Pac's injury and Marquez' dramatic comeback.' Hope you got the vids. CC kaibigan!
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yes pareng penalosafan. I have the video on the post-fight interview where Pacquaio was showing his blistered foot and swollen hand to a Filipino sports newscaster. I will edit it and upload it in youtube and make a thread on it.Am currently on vacation and I don't have my video editor with me. I will do it first week of November.
don't worry. people believe you coz you're a good poster here. :coolclick:
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Originally Posted by brucelee
yes pareng penalosafan. I have the video on the post-fight interview where Pacquaio was showing his blistered foot and swollen hand to a Filipino sports newscaster. I will edit it and upload it in youtube and make a thread on it.Am currently on vacation and I don't have my video editor with me. I will do it first week of November.
don't worry. people believe you coz you're a good poster here. :coolclick:
pareng penalosafan stop with the excuses..... I find it fitting that you also submit a copy of JMM's hands and feet after the fight perhaps he had blisters and hand injuries as well. P.S submit a copy of your brain scan too !!
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
P.S submit a copy of your brain scan too !!
Thanx for your concern, At_b, I really appreciate it. I'll have it done when I have some spare time. Folks here at home have been having the same doubt and concern about me so I guess its about time. ;D ;D ;D
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
pareng penalosafan stop with the excuses.....
Ya, I'll stop making excuses cuz anywayz pac doesn't need us fools to make 'em for him, he just keeps on proving himself over and over again and again to the frustration of some Mr. Niceguys, making 'em seething in rage...But wait a second, on the second thought maybe I'll continue doing so, so I can keep Mr. Niceguys like you all stirred-up and busy lest they start talking to walls, and start pickin' on some poor neighborhood kids, and ended up having brain scan together with us pac-fools. Now I wouldn't want that to happen to some nice guys like you, do I. ;D :) :P Hope that'll make you happy, pal. Just remember one thing though, I don't pick fights - this pacfan can be very nice or very mean and nasty, depending on how you approach him. :-* :-* :-*
Naw, I'm just having fun. Just relax pal and enjoy yourself. I'll give you a cc and I'll give you one even if you call me with all kinds of four-legged words. That's how easy I am... Adios, pare ko.